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10/13/2010 5:38 PM

Hi, I'm Johnathon Camp. I've been racing my whole life and have won a few amateur nationals. I Gave up my pro career to go to college. Right now i'm a Junior working on my bachelors degree in mechanical engineering. I want to find an internship for the summer of 2011, or anytime of 2011. I have tried to email Honda Usa, but have heard nothing back. I know that a lot of jobs, or sponsorships now days are highly orientated with the people you know. So I decided to post this to see if anyone has any advice, input, or connections with anything related to this.

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10/13/2010 5:41 PM

Take a vacation, travel to california, and do some extreme networking. Emails and phone calls are easily ignored, getting to a facility and talking to people in person is much harder to ignore.

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10/13/2010 5:55 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/13/2010 7:45 PM

Welcome to Vital MX ,John.

You may want to hit up KTM.

KTM North America Inc
1119 Milan Ave
Amherst, OH
44001

or

38429 Innovation Court
Murrieta, CA 92563

Might want to try writing them a good letter with some type of resume.
You never know,it could work....

Good luck to you!

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10/13/2010 5:58 PM

I agree with zookie. Get your face in front of as many people in the industry as possible and be persistent without being a pest. If you're genuine, determined and enthusiastic it will show.

Good luck.

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10/13/2010 6:54 PM

You will be much better off inquiring with aftermarket companies rather than OEMs since most of the engineering for the OEMs is oversees. An internship with a motor builder or a suspension company, or even an aftermarket parts company with lots of product development and R&D would be much more likely and would probably give you much more hands-on experience than someone like Honda.

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10/13/2010 8:27 PM

Good Luck with it all.

I just got my bachelors degree in Mech. Eng. last December, so I feel for ya. It's not easy!

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Michael Akaydin #918

10/13/2010 8:28 PM

Joe Gibbs racing would be a good choice if you can get it.

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10/13/2010 9:44 PM

Yes lots of aftermarket companies in Cali, just none that are hiring. You want a paid internship or work for free?

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10/14/2010 8:58 PM

Your mission is to find meaningful engineering experience working under engineering professionals. Trust me, you will need MEANINGFUL experience when you graduate in a year and motocross shops cannot provide a professional like yourself with such experience.

I suggest finding an internship at a medical device company. These type of companies have well defined internship programs and actually pay a pretty good wage for interns.
Try some of these companies: St Jude Medical, Abbot Labs, Boston Scientific, Johnson and Johnson, Tyco Medical, Stryker, and many others. Typically these companies have excellent intership programs.

Another suggestion is just take a job doing Autocad or Solidworks drafting.

Don't be a sucker and take a "fun" motocross industry job.

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10/14/2010 8:59 PM

moto314 wrote:

Yes lots of aftermarket companies in Cali, just none that are hiring. You want a paid internship or work for free?

Are you working as an engineer or still going to school?

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1/5/2013 11:48 AM

Hi my name is Andrew Barr,
I'm a 19 year old student from Portugal that wants to join the motocross industry. I'm ending a professional electronics course that gives me a level 4 degree. I don't know if that means anything in the industry or in any other country besides mine. Motocross is some how a passion that I want to keep. Can someone give me any information about motocross industry? Don't care if its abroad. Anything goes. I'm looking for internships, jobs, learning the fields of expertise and related information.
I would really appreciate the help.

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1/5/2013 12:21 PM

Unless you know someone in the industry or want to work for nothing..do yourself a favor, get a job in another industry and just enjoy riding and being a fan!

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1/5/2013 12:32 PM

Become fluent in Japanese or German.

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1/5/2013 1:19 PM

Johnathon, here is some hopefully helpful advice from a mechanical engineer in the oil industry. I'm kind of suprised that you don't have three full semester required co-op's for graduation. Look for some co-op opportunities at an oil or nuke facility in the rotating equipment (pumps, turbines, engines) engineering or maintenance departments. You will get a lot more hands on experience with this stuff than you could ever dream of and the pay for co-op's in these industries is unbelievable to boot. Go to your schools job fairs and ask about prosective employers about their co-op programs and if you can interview for them, if your scool doesn't have this go to a job fair at another school that does have required co-ops. Make sure you ask the prosective employers to clarify how much hands on involvement you will have, as our co-ops gain experience they get tasked with more hands-on activities, avoid being a spread sheet co-op at all costs its a waste of time. A lot of the oil companies especially, have their fingers in racing of various sorts this could be helpful in the long run. Whether you go to work with the company you co-op with or interview with other companies that experience in any field is worth its weight in gold. Good luck!

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1/5/2013 1:40 PM
Edited Date/Time: 1/5/2013 1:44 PM

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1/5/2013 2:02 PM

Join LinkedIn as well.

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1/5/2013 2:03 PM

c3011 wrote:

Johnathon, here is some hopefully helpful advice from a mechanical engineer in the oil industry. I'm kind of suprised that you ...more

Great advice. I feel the prob with a lot of these seekers is they don't look outside the box. You don't have to go straight into your industry of choice especially MX where spots are very limited. It will,probably be quicker to go outside the industry then come back to MX and if that don't work then you have gained experience in an industry outside of MX thus expanding your résumé. Just don't give up on your goals or knowledge expansion

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1/5/2013 3:24 PM

Follow your dreams.... live your purpose.

Contact companies like:

* Pro Circuit
* Works Connection
* ARC
* Factory Connection
* Hinson
* Yosh

etc.

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bd

1/5/2013 3:26 PM

c3011 wrote:

Johnathon, here is some hopefully helpful advice from a mechanical engineer in the oil industry. I'm kind of suprised that you ...more

41NDT wrote:

Great advice. I feel the prob with a lot of these seekers is they don't look outside the box. You don't have to go straight ...more

Great advice. You can move into MX industry later. Pick up book, "Never Eat Alone." You need skill, and strong network.

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bd

1/5/2013 4:09 PM

Not an engineer but hear me out

Your first years out of college are crucial and you need a mentor and someone to guide you so you actually learn something.

The MX industry is full of really stupid, unprofessional people and if you managed to get an internship at a team you would be doing yourself a disservice. While your friends got internships at real companies that actually provide value to society, you would be working for free at some podunk shop that is probably owned by someone who didn't even graduate high school.

I would also start reading more about motorcycle setup in your spare time.

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KEEP WORKING, MILLIONS ON WELFARE DEPEND ON YOU!

1/5/2013 4:14 PM

If this is you...

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/johnathon-camp/41/59a/796

Why on earth would you want to work in the mx industry if you've had 2 legitimate internships at SpaceX and Tesla?

I knew someone who interned at SpaceX and he was fucking SMART. Working in MX would be a step back from you, you're obviously a smart guy.

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KEEP WORKING, MILLIONS ON WELFARE DEPEND ON YOU!

1/5/2013 6:03 PM

Hando, yes that's my linkedin account. I have interned with both SpaceX and Tesla, but motocross is what i've been doing since I was a child. Money doesn't really matter to me. I just want to wake up every morning and love going to work.

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1/5/2013 6:08 PM

How about motorcycle racing? id bet they scream for good consultants in that world.

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1/5/2013 7:31 PM

Most everyone in the technical end of MX raacing (mechanics/engineers) have gained experience working for free for a good local racer and moved up from there are their repuation/contacts grew. Getting something in an industry with rotating equipement would be ideal to help you convince someone to let you help them, and with the other experience atleast you have something to pay the bills while you pursue your dream.

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1/5/2013 7:47 PM

TannerMxer wrote:

Join LinkedIn as well.

This. Use it and keep current. This is true for any industry.

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1/5/2013 8:10 PM

I don't know how the whole job market is for engineers, but my oldest son (17) will graduate from high school this year with a full year of college physics, 4 college quarters of calculus, diff eq., etc., and he has at least 4 paid internship offers for his summer. Seems to be a bit of demand in at least he electrical, civil, and computer engineering fields. I'd imagine the mechanical area would be pretty well in demand also.

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1/5/2013 8:18 PM

TannerMxer wrote:

Join LinkedIn as well.

Tiki wrote:

This. Use it and keep current. This is true for any industry.

Why LinkedIn? I have worked in engineering for Yamaha Motor Corp and now GE and I will be honest..LinkedIn has never got me a job....having a good résumé, education, and confidence will get you a job...

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1/6/2013 12:39 AM

campj313 wrote:

Hando, yes that's my linkedin account. I have interned with both SpaceX and Tesla, but motocross is what i've been doing since ...more

Please take this to heart...

As someone who worked/interned with automotive dream companies and for motorcycle teams, I can say without a doubt in my older more mature years that I am now, that you should keep your hobbies and work separate. Money may not matter now, but without $$ your hobbies are gone. Trust me. Keep them separate. If you didn't like SpaceX or Tesla (I have friends that work at both and have toured both facilities), then you will not like anywhere you can work as an engineer.

Go work for SpaceX or Tesla. SpaceX or Tesla will be much better for your resume and experience in the long run...

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1/6/2013 12:52 AM

First, I doubt, except for a few people who actually work for the factories (in the design/production areas), that there are actually any qualified, professional engineers working in the motocross industry. Probably lots of people who say they do "engineering" though.

Second, if you are prepared to go outside your comfort zone (and your own country), take a long hard look at oil/gas and/or mining. Places like Canada and Australia pay a lot money for quality graduates (a good first year graduate in Australia can easily make $100,000 a year, that's not a misprint), plus you will get professional and leadership development opportunities you could only dream about in other industries.

With that kind of income you can set yourself up for life, and get as much into motocross as you want.

Ando

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1/6/2013 5:13 AM

Thanks for all the comments everyone. It does seem unlikely to me that a motocross job would work out. It makes sense to keep hobbies and work separate. I do want to clarify that I did enjoy working at Tesla and Spacex. I'm actually going through and interview process right now with SpaceX for a job as an integration engineer for the 2nd stage rocket engine. They want to fly me from Florida to LA for an in person interview after my phone one a couple weeks ago.

I'm not entirely sure if ill go or not since I have a graduate research assistant position lined up at my college, Embry-Riddle, to get a free masters and get paid while doing it. Chances are i'm going to stay in school for 2 more years.

It's a tough decision to make. Would it make sense to take a free masters degree or go to work for a really cool job right away?

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