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Camp332 7/10/2015 9:44am
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The real question here is: Does JMB even lift Bro!?
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CoccoBill 7/10/2015 9:45am
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anelson509 wrote:
Don't worry Cairoli wouldn't, because he'd never have the balls to open himself to the criticism RV has by going to race the other series.
CoccoBill wrote:
Now you should tell me what the heck your comment means. Let's say you're right, Tony is just an average b-class euro rider and has no...
Now you should tell me what the heck your comment means.
Let's say you're right, Tony is just an average b-class euro rider and has no balls to put a wheel on the American soil, does this make RV an instant hero?
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I never said he was a b-class euro rider. He's a great rider and has had a great career. My point was that Cairoli would never...
I never said he was a b-class euro rider. He's a great rider and has had a great career. My point was that Cairoli would never have taken the chance that RV did to open himself up to the type of criticism that he has recieved. If a fan is disappointed that he didn't go and win a title I understand that, but you have to respect that at the end of his career he tried something completely different that others wouldn't try.
Don't get me wrong, I do respect RV for what he did, you can't even understand how thrilled I was when I saw him behind the gate with all the other euro-guys, it's been epic. And I was even scared that he could possibly wax them all.
I think nobody should be disappointed because he didn't win, that's not the point.
The point is how he left, playing hide and seek for months, then, all of a sudden, posting GoPros on facebook, twitter and instagarm (I'm pretty sure he got some good cash for that), then disappearing again and finally saying bye bye.
He's a public figure, he's what it is not only because of his talent, but even because of his fans and I do think he owes them a lot!
As I already said I'm not a fan of him, but I feel like something was stolen.
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Motoxdoc 7/10/2015 9:46am
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Foe some reason the analogy of the pot calling the kettle black comes to mind.
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If you want to go to the way-back machine for a rider going dark, I think Shu still has the bar set on that one. Although maybe he didn't "owe" people as much as RV . . .

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If you want to go to the way-back machine for a rider going dark, I think Shu still has the bar set on that one. Although...
If you want to go to the way-back machine for a rider going dark, I think Shu still has the bar set on that one. Although maybe he didn't "owe" people as much as RV . . .
Didnt he sustain a career ending knee injury .. im sure i read that recently.
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Spartacus 7/10/2015 10:23am
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If a european GP champion came here to race the outdoor series amid much positive speculation from that side of the pond and did the same exact thing, TONS of 'Mericans would be taking shit about him in just the same way.

I could actually care less what RV does, he's just a dirt bike racer and mean nothing in my life.

Hope he enjoys his retirement though.
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RY4N37 7/10/2015 10:46am
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If a european GP champion came here to race the outdoor series amid much positive speculation from that side of the pond and did the same...
If a european GP champion came here to race the outdoor series amid much positive speculation from that side of the pond and did the same exact thing, TONS of 'Mericans would be taking shit about him in just the same way.

I could actually care less what RV does, he's just a dirt bike racer and mean nothing in my life.

Hope he enjoys his retirement though.
I think that's a very valid point. Just to play devils advocate here.

How much shit do you think Cairoli would get if he decided that in his last season he wanted to race the U.S. nationals, went 9-8 at the first round, then bounced back at the second but only managed to place in the top 3 twice in the first 7 races, then had a loop-out, completely disappeared for almost 3 months before eventually breaking his silence by announcing his retirement?

I'm not sure he would be spoken of too highly.
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kkawboy14 7/10/2015 10:49am
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Definetly not worthy of a Great Champion!

I guess it is worthy of of a champion! He can do what he wants but a great champion does go above and beyond a regular champion
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He's all about business now, looks like he already has a new income from GoPro...

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hvaughn88 7/10/2015 10:51am
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Oh my god. Some of you guys take this shit more serious than the actual riders.
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Spartacus wrote:
If a european GP champion came here to race the outdoor series amid much positive speculation from that side of the pond and did the same...
If a european GP champion came here to race the outdoor series amid much positive speculation from that side of the pond and did the same exact thing, TONS of 'Mericans would be taking shit about him in just the same way.

I could actually care less what RV does, he's just a dirt bike racer and mean nothing in my life.

Hope he enjoys his retirement though.
Couldn't care less.
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ML512 7/10/2015 11:00am
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CoccoBill wrote:
He's all about business now, looks like he already has a new income from GoPro...

Villopoto on twitter
He's been sponsored by GoPro for a few years...
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CoccoBill 7/10/2015 11:01am
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hvaughn88 wrote:
Oh my god. Some of you guys take this shit more serious than the actual riders.
You're right, but I'm so pissed... and I'm not even a fan of him.
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Spartacus wrote:
If a european GP champion came here to race the outdoor series amid much positive speculation from that side of the pond and did the same...
If a european GP champion came here to race the outdoor series amid much positive speculation from that side of the pond and did the same exact thing, TONS of 'Mericans would be taking shit about him in just the same way.

I could actually care less what RV does, he's just a dirt bike racer and mean nothing in my life.

Hope he enjoys his retirement though.
RY4N37 wrote:
I think that's a very valid point. Just to play devils advocate here. How much shit do you think Cairoli would get if he decided that...
I think that's a very valid point. Just to play devils advocate here.

How much shit do you think Cairoli would get if he decided that in his last season he wanted to race the U.S. nationals, went 9-8 at the first round, then bounced back at the second but only managed to place in the top 3 twice in the first 7 races, then had a loop-out, completely disappeared for almost 3 months before eventually breaking his silence by announcing his retirement?

I'm not sure he would be spoken of too highly.
I for one, would commend him on having the balls to do a series switch. Like RV, I would wish him the best in retirement- but would also be disappointed that he didn't do at least two years in the new series so we can see him ride at his full potential after transitioning.

You are correct, though. There would certainly be people talking trash because he didn't retire the way they wanted him to, just like people are doing now to RV. There are trolls/people with shitty opinions on both sides.



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steed 2.0 7/10/2015 11:13am
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just a quick question is "outsider" also thinking about retirement? Smile Wink
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AS64 7/10/2015 11:15am
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RY4N37 wrote:
I do kind of agree with him. He's not exactly gone out the way a true champion should
In all seriousness, he doesn't really have much else to prove. His most recent injury left him in a tough spot and recovery is going to take a lot longer than he initially thought it would.
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RY4N37 7/10/2015 11:20am
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I for one, would commend him on having the balls to do a series switch. Like RV, I would wish him the best in retirement- but...
I for one, would commend him on having the balls to do a series switch. Like RV, I would wish him the best in retirement- but would also be disappointed that he didn't do at least two years in the new series so we can see him ride at his full potential after transitioning.

You are correct, though. There would certainly be people talking trash because he didn't retire the way they wanted him to, just like people are doing now to RV. There are trolls/people with shitty opinions on both sides.



I know there would be those who would appreciate his career and wish him a happy retirement, such as yourself. But I feel there would also be an awful lot of people who would be not quite so respectful
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DonM 7/10/2015 11:37am
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wreckitrandy wrote:
As a 'proud American', I totally dig RV's exit from racing. No 'farewell tour', group hug hoopla. Just thank everybody and go to the house. Perfect.
CoccoBill wrote:
Ok guys, you are the Americans (total respect to you, your Nation, your riders and your opinions) if you're happy with the way it went, well...
Ok guys, you are the Americans (total respect to you, your Nation, your riders and your opinions) if you're happy with the way it went, well, good for you, but let me say if Cairoli would act like RV did I would be disappointed.
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They aren't happy with the way it went. Anyone who said they would not have preferred RV to go out with a MXGP title is lying...
They aren't happy with the way it went. Anyone who said they would not have preferred RV to go out with a MXGP title is lying just as anyone who says they are fine with the way RV left are not being honest. Losing three of the four races, flipping over backwards and then walking away and this wreckitandy calls it "perfect". OK. Whistling

JMB is right, but he would be called a know-it-nothing troll by the American fans if he posted that anonymously here. As I said, put the pride aside. As JMB said, learn how to lose and take a does of humility. These American fans have a hard time with facts and take it as an insult when someone points them out. At the end of the day, they will just shoo others off the forum so they can live in their own world.
Again why are you here??? And you don't think what you say or how you say it is trolling? All you do bait for a response in every thread you have posted in....I just call you out for it..

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CoccoBill 7/10/2015 12:00pm
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CoccoBill wrote:
He's all about business now, looks like he already has a new income from GoPro...

Villopoto on twitter
ML512 wrote:
He's been sponsored by GoPro for a few years...
My bad...
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Silliker269 7/10/2015 12:08pm
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A guy speaks his mind and says it like it is, who gives a shit.
To a point I do agree with him, its not the fairy tale ending we all wanted to see but like JT was saying, he was basically forced to race this year anyways. This was the first opportunity he got for a way out and he took it.
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GrapeApe 7/10/2015 12:17pm
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RichardLoots wrote:
Who's to say JMB is right in this situation? its an opinion from a person ..duhhhh , agree or dont but has nothing to do with...
Who's to say JMB is right in this situation? its an opinion from a person ..duhhhh , agree or dont but has nothing to do with being right or not .
I agree, but it was yaktroller that stated as fact "JMB is right"
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Jt$ wrote:
He didn't want to race this year to begin with. Nothing has changed other than now he can retire without penalty.
Over and over again this gets lost in the banter.

He did not want to race, He raced to satisfy whomever and then He got hurt , Once again He was completely over it.

No way at this point was going to satisfy everyone.
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Sparkey 7/10/2015 1:26pm
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Being medically cleared to race and having ongoing pain from compressed disks are two different animals. Anyone judging RV2 doesn't have a clue.

my $.02
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DV-67 7/10/2015 1:37pm
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How was RV "forced" to race this year?
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DV-67 7/10/2015 1:39pm
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Jt$ wrote:
He didn't want to race this year to begin with. Nothing has changed other than now he can retire without penalty.
500guy wrote:
Over and over again this gets lost in the banter. He did not want to race, He raced to satisfy whomever and then He got hurt...
Over and over again this gets lost in the banter.

He did not want to race, He raced to satisfy whomever and then He got hurt , Once again He was completely over it.

No way at this point was going to satisfy everyone.
He raced to satisfy himself. To get the money.

He could of retired last year if he wanted but did not want to pay the penalty as JT$ said.
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DV-67 wrote:
How was RV "forced" to race this year?
Executed Contract
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bd wrote:
Executed Contract
RV must surely have the money to buy himself out of his contract? If he really really didn't want to race he could've done that. He wasn't forced to race, he just decided he would rather race than pay out, which is fair enough
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Like Davey Coombs put it in the RacerX commentary: "If anyone could completely walk away from motocross for good and never look back, it would be Ryan Villopoto."

What none of the opinions in this thread and most of all the others on the RV retirement fail to consider is this...RV doesn't have one single shit to give anymore. Period. He was over pro racing at the end of 2015...and wanted to walk away then, and never look back. He was forced to race by those who held him in contracts. Now that he can walk away...he doesn't give a damn how it looks to you, to me or to anybody else. You can cry and moan that he isn't going out like a champion all you want...but he doesn't care. He's gone, and that's all he cares about.
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GrapeApe 7/10/2015 3:09pm
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bd wrote:
Executed Contract
RY4N37 wrote:
RV must surely have the money to buy himself out of his contract? If he really really didn't want to race he could've done that. He...
RV must surely have the money to buy himself out of his contract? If he really really didn't want to race he could've done that. He wasn't forced to race, he just decided he would rather race than pay out, which is fair enough
So use his retirement money to buy himself out of his contract instead of putting in 9 more months of work for an enormous payday, contract fulfilled, and a clean break from the industry with a massive bank account. This is a test of your intelligence: what would you do?
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philG 7/10/2015 3:22pm
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davistld01 wrote:
Like Davey Coombs put it in the RacerX commentary: "If anyone could completely walk away from motocross for good and never look back, it would be...
Like Davey Coombs put it in the RacerX commentary: "If anyone could completely walk away from motocross for good and never look back, it would be Ryan Villopoto."

What none of the opinions in this thread and most of all the others on the RV retirement fail to consider is this...RV doesn't have one single shit to give anymore. Period. He was over pro racing at the end of 2015...and wanted to walk away then, and never look back. He was forced to race by those who held him in contracts. Now that he can walk away...he doesn't give a damn how it looks to you, to me or to anybody else. You can cry and moan that he isn't going out like a champion all you want...but he doesn't care. He's gone, and that's all he cares about.
best post .

Not exactly what you are looking for in a 'brand ambassador'

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