JMB comments on Bercy

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Read this translation SLOWLY. Understand what he is saying. It's really cool. First he calls out Marvin, then he talks about how awesome it was to see two young warriors lay it down:

But where is Marvin? I am with the Super-Cross-country race of Paris Bercy, Justin Barcia is in track with his American buddies. They fight against a French handle whose Greg Aranda is the leader. Marvin, you should be there with us, if you want to become a star… a legend… large… if you want to show your talent with the public which awaited you in silence and which would have I am on fact much of noise for you. But not, you are not there, you have certainly your reasons not to be among us. One US season to prepare… contract dollars… not desire for wounding you…. Do you believe that the money will make a difference at the end in your career? Or a US title moreover or less? … compared with the image that you leashes.

Ca believe me it is of that people remember… holds a sentence of Roger who marked me much: “If you are nothing without your titles you will not be much more with…” I opened the track of Bercy with my idols: Jacky, Pitcher, Danny, one of my ex competitor: Ron, one of my Sebastien successors, the pals and the friends now. I had N° 58 on the plate before my motor bike in homage to Marco Simmoncelli deceased in race with the GP de Malaisie, believe that the contracts…, the money, it carried them with him in its paradise? … All that does not have any importance it on the other hand left its trace in the hearts of us all and one will remember forever his career in MotoGP thanks to his passion, his charisma, his attack, his goings beyond. It is as that which it was expressed with the handlebar of a Motor bike without thinking of the pain of its last falls nor of thinking of the consequences of the risks that it took, just there for the pleasure of controlling and of showing its talent and its love for what it made…

Which pleasure of seeing Justin Barcia rolling with his ardour and its freshness, which pleasure of seeing Greg Aranda driving out the stopwatch for the super pole… you do not mislead, one is there to see this kind of thing, the victories without battles, insane relief, emotions one of… The incident of Saturday evening between Greg Aranda and Justin Barcia was a pure moment of happiness, that they was good to see that. A stupid attitude will say some….but which for me had all its value symbolic system of two pilots full with youth, freshness and ambition. Ca pleased to me to see that this spirit of warrior was still present in this room of the POPB. That has is enough to clarify my evening, even want and even not considering the final whereas Justin Barcia was not there any more. Justin cheer, Greg Cheer, it are what one wants to see, you effleuré l' spirit of Marco. JMB
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11/1/2011 1:07pm
Yep, read it slowly or you miss his meaning. I'm proud of JMB for having the guts to state his opinion...
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Damn, that was good. Real good.
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11/1/2011 1:13pm
JMB Doesn't speak often, one should listen when he does...

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do you have a link to the original TBTeam? Was that in a French mag?
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Seems a little unfair of him to single out Musquin who has ridden Bercy for the past what, two or three years? What about Paulin, both Pourcels, Frossard, Charlier, Boog, and Boissierre etc?
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11/1/2011 1:43pm Edited Date/Time 11/1/2011 1:46pm
Translation please.................me no comprehend.

parlez vous anglais
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jamma10 wrote:
Seems a little unfair of him to single out Musquin who has ridden Bercy for the past what, two or three years? What about Paulin, both...
Seems a little unfair of him to single out Musquin who has ridden Bercy for the past what, two or three years? What about Paulin, both Pourcels, Frossard, Charlier, Boog, and Boissierre etc?
I agree.
Not that it is bad advice but maybe Marvin wants to do it his way.
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11/1/2011 1:54pm
jamma10 wrote:
Seems a little unfair of him to single out Musquin who has ridden Bercy for the past what, two or three years? What about Paulin, both...
Seems a little unfair of him to single out Musquin who has ridden Bercy for the past what, two or three years? What about Paulin, both Pourcels, Frossard, Charlier, Boog, and Boissierre etc?
I agree. I'm not sure it even was his decision to make. Had I been a KTM manager I would have gently reminded him that he screwed his SX season last year because of Bercy. For a factory team, a SX title is a lot more important than a one off race.

BTW, some of the other French riders you mention don't do SX or are recovering from injury. So they have a built in excuse.
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I was going to say the same, I wouldn't be surprised if it was KTM who made the decision. Marvin was really popular there the last two years he did it.
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11/1/2011 2:31pm
beamer wrote:
Translation please.................me no comprehend.

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I read it slowly a few times, not really sure what he said other than calling MM out. I would appreciate a condensed translation also.
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11/1/2011 2:33pm
I know where Marvin was today. Riding with his teammates, and looking really good. Actually, make that really *really* good. I think the time on the 350 was good for him, and he looked fast and smooth.

Last year was kind of a disaster for him, between the knee and thumb injury, and his confidence was shaken. Roger mentioned that a couple times as Marvin was coming back starting at Washougal. The way he was riding today? I'd say it's back.

While it's cool to hear JMB speak up, I'm guessing that Marvin and Roger (and probably Pit and Stefan) have a plan, and that it didn't include Bercy this time around.
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11/1/2011 2:34pm
beamer wrote:
Translation please.................me no comprehend.

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fcr wrote:
I read it slowly a few times, not really sure what he said other than calling MM out. I would appreciate a condensed translation also.
^^^This
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11/1/2011 2:38pm
i read it as the Aranda and Barcia deal was just a heated passion for doing well in the race and letting tempers fly.

but i'm still on a 2nd grade reading level... so
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11/1/2011 2:58pm
For the French guys. It's from his Facebook page:



Mais où est Marvin ?
Je suis au Super-Cross de Paris Bercy, Justin Barcia est en piste avec ses copains Américains. Ils se battent contre une poignée de Français dont Greg Aranda est le meneur.

Marvin, tu devrais être là avec nous, si tu veux devenir une star... une légende...un grand... si tu veux démontrer ton talent au public qui t’attendait en silence et qui aurait je suis sur fait beaucoup de bruit pour toi. Mais non, tu n’es pas là, tu as certainement tes raisons pour ne pas être parmi nous. Une saison US à préparer... contrat dollars... pas envie de te blesser.... Crois-tu que l’argent fera une différence à la fin de ta carrière? Ou un titre US de plus ou de moins?...comparé à l’image que tu laisses. Ca crois moi c’est de cela que les gens se souviennent... tient un phrase de Roger qui m’a beaucoup marqué: “ Si tu n’es rien sans tes titres tu ne seras pas beaucoup plus avec...”
J’ai ouvert la piste de Bercy avec mes idoles: Jacky, Broc,Danny, un de mes ex concurrent: Ron, un de mes successeurs Sébastien, des potes et des amis maintenant.
J’avais le N° 58 sur la plaque avant de ma moto en hommage à Marco Simmoncelli décédé en course au GP de Malaisie, croyez vous que les contrats..., l’argent, il les a emporté avec lui dans son paradis?... Tout cela n’a aucune importance il a par contre laissé sa trace dans les coeurs de nous tous et on se souviendra a jamais de sa carrière en MotoGP grâce à sa passion, son charisme, son attaque, ses dépassements. C’est comme cela qu’il s’exprimait au guidon d’une Moto sans penser à la douleur de ses chutes passées ni penser aux conséquences des risques qu’il prenait, juste là pour le plaisir de piloter et de montrer son talent et son amour pour ce qu’il faisait...

Quel plaisir de voir Justin Barcia rouler avec sa fougue et sa fraîcheur, quel plaisir de voir Greg Aranda chasser le chrono pour la super pole... ne vous trompez pas, on est là pour voir ce genre de chose, les victoires sans batailles, sans relief, sans émotions on s’en fou...

L’incident de samedi soir entre Greg Aranda et Justin Barcia était un pur moment de bonheur, que c’était bon de voir ça. Une attitude stupide diront certains....mais qui pour moi avait toute sa valeur symbolique de deux pilotes pleins de jeunesse, de fraîcheur et d’ambition. Ca m’a fait plaisir de voir que cette esprit de guerrier était encore présent dans cette salle du POPB. Cela a suffit à éclairer ma soirée, même pas eu envie et même pas vu la finale alors que Justin Barcia n’était plus là.

Bravo Justin, Bravo Greg, c’est ce qu’on veut voir, vous avez effleuré l'esprit de Marco.
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11/1/2011 3:04pm
Musquin misses a race that really doesn't mean a ton in the grand scheme of things and is called out by a guy who completely gave up on the sport right in the middle of his prime? That's more than a little bit ironic......
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yes pretty shitty to write that. It looks like he was drunk-posting, he should know it's never good. Who the fuck cares about an exhibition race like Bercy that pays tons of money just for showing up. He is contradicting himself a bit when on the Matthes' podcast he is saying that his only goal was to win the USA, to beat the Americans on their tracks, that the AMA series are the real world championship.

Good on Musquin to work on his 2012 season, Bercy already screwed his 2011, better not repeat the same mistake.
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I read it slowly...twice...and still have no idea what he was trying to say.
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I think the theme was "Do your best to be the best".

The commentary on Marco Simmoncelli was well written and meaningful.

As far as him "giving up on the sport", that's hardly the case. He set a goal to race in America, and WIN in America. He conquered that goal and set a new one on the asphalt and gave everything he had there as well.

Nothing wrong with that whatsoever.
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I think Roger knows what's best for his riders.
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I didn't understand a single word JMB said. And it matters not. I hold that dude in such an insane level of

high-regard for the surgical manner in which he made a motorcycle dance, that I could give a fat rat's arse

on his opinion of MM and Bercy.
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those google trasulations really suck........
first of all you have to understand that jmb is an icon for french moto, and he is talking to a french rider........so he says that musquin should give more importance to get into the hearts of the fans and be always remembered and not just ride for money and contracts that some day could became meanningless.....
he tells him that cuz he nows that the french homecrowd expected him the most to defend their collors....he even quoted roger d, talked about his experience to open the track with the lengends and even about the huge recognition of talent and heart for marco simmoncelli where he used the #58 on his bike......
i guess he felt that the french fans where kind of left without their stars cuz this is a one off race not too important in the championships point of view, but the most important race for a french sx rider, he advises musquin to look at the heart of the fans and not only to contracts and money, so in the long run his carreer can stand longer as one of the greats of the sport
i can see his point...!!!!!
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rileymx wrote:
those google trasulations really suck........ first of all you have to understand that jmb is an icon for french moto, and he is talking to a...
those google trasulations really suck........
first of all you have to understand that jmb is an icon for french moto, and he is talking to a french rider........so he says that musquin should give more importance to get into the hearts of the fans and be always remembered and not just ride for money and contracts that some day could became meanningless.....
he tells him that cuz he nows that the french homecrowd expected him the most to defend their collors....he even quoted roger d, talked about his experience to open the track with the lengends and even about the huge recognition of talent and heart for marco simmoncelli where he used the #58 on his bike......
i guess he felt that the french fans where kind of left without their stars cuz this is a one off race not too important in the championships point of view, but the most important race for a french sx rider, he advises musquin to look at the heart of the fans and not only to contracts and money, so in the long run his carreer can stand longer as one of the greats of the sport
i can see his point...!!!!!
Spot on.

In addition, JMB speaks of how he was really excited to see Barcia and Aranda ride with such passion, regardless of the ultimate drama that it led to on the track.

Racing with heart. That's what it's all about.
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11/1/2011 5:04pm
One way to look at this. These guys are professionals, they do this for money. Dave Arnold said even Hannah would take a dive, but Honda still had to pay him for a win.

Bercy is just a glorified Arenacrss IMO.

But JMB was one bad MoFo on a dirt bike. One of these best ever.
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rileymx wrote:
those google trasulations really suck........ first of all you have to understand that jmb is an icon for french moto, and he is talking to a...
those google trasulations really suck........
first of all you have to understand that jmb is an icon for french moto, and he is talking to a french rider........so he says that musquin should give more importance to get into the hearts of the fans and be always remembered and not just ride for money and contracts that some day could became meanningless.....
he tells him that cuz he nows that the french homecrowd expected him the most to defend their collors....he even quoted roger d, talked about his experience to open the track with the lengends and even about the huge recognition of talent and heart for marco simmoncelli where he used the #58 on his bike......
i guess he felt that the french fans where kind of left without their stars cuz this is a one off race not too important in the championships point of view, but the most important race for a french sx rider, he advises musquin to look at the heart of the fans and not only to contracts and money, so in the long run his carreer can stand longer as one of the greats of the sport
i can see his point...!!!!!
Tbteam wrote:
Spot on. In addition, JMB speaks of how he was really excited to see Barcia and Aranda ride with such passion, regardless of the ultimate drama...
Spot on.

In addition, JMB speaks of how he was really excited to see Barcia and Aranda ride with such passion, regardless of the ultimate drama that it led to on the track.

Racing with heart. That's what it's all about.
That's the part I liked reading. A completely different view of the incident that seemed to get everyone panties in a bunch.
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11/1/2011 5:27pm Edited Date/Time 11/1/2011 5:29pm
rileymx wrote:
those google trasulations really suck........ first of all you have to understand that jmb is an icon for french moto, and he is talking to a...
those google trasulations really suck........
first of all you have to understand that jmb is an icon for french moto, and he is talking to a french rider........so he says that musquin should give more importance to get into the hearts of the fans and be always remembered and not just ride for money and contracts that some day could became meanningless.....
he tells him that cuz he nows that the french homecrowd expected him the most to defend their collors....he even quoted roger d, talked about his experience to open the track with the lengends and even about the huge recognition of talent and heart for marco simmoncelli where he used the #58 on his bike......
i guess he felt that the french fans where kind of left without their stars cuz this is a one off race not too important in the championships point of view, but the most important race for a french sx rider, he advises musquin to look at the heart of the fans and not only to contracts and money, so in the long run his carreer can stand longer as one of the greats of the sport
i can see his point...!!!!!
Tbteam wrote:
Spot on. In addition, JMB speaks of how he was really excited to see Barcia and Aranda ride with such passion, regardless of the ultimate drama...
Spot on.

In addition, JMB speaks of how he was really excited to see Barcia and Aranda ride with such passion, regardless of the ultimate drama that it led to on the track.

Racing with heart. That's what it's all about.
x2.. seems like he now realizes what should have been important to him at the time. (with age comes wisdom?) Seems like he is just giving harsh advice to the young french rider.

It's good to see him publically recognize what the Barcia/Aranda confrontation was, and thats passion. Someone will jump on here and say Barcia is a punk. He might be, I dont know him and have never met him, but what I have seen from him is passion. Bam-bam isn't his nickname because he knocks out people in the pits (or when a pissed off frenchman comes after him), its because his passion showed on the track and he never has settled to be behind anyone, which usually means taking someone out even if its himself. JMO though.. everyone has one. And since I don't give a fuck what yours is, I don't expect you to care about mine
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I'm sure every pro goes to the local arenacross race when it comes to town.
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rileymx wrote:
those google trasulations really suck........ first of all you have to understand that jmb is an icon for french moto, and he is talking to a...
those google trasulations really suck........
first of all you have to understand that jmb is an icon for french moto, and he is talking to a french rider........so he says that musquin should give more importance to get into the hearts of the fans and be always remembered and not just ride for money and contracts that some day could became meanningless.....
he tells him that cuz he nows that the french homecrowd expected him the most to defend their collors....he even quoted roger d, talked about his experience to open the track with the lengends and even about the huge recognition of talent and heart for marco simmoncelli where he used the #58 on his bike......
i guess he felt that the french fans where kind of left without their stars cuz this is a one off race not too important in the championships point of view, but the most important race for a french sx rider, he advises musquin to look at the heart of the fans and not only to contracts and money, so in the long run his carreer can stand longer as one of the greats of the sport
i can see his point...!!!!!
Tbteam wrote:
Spot on. In addition, JMB speaks of how he was really excited to see Barcia and Aranda ride with such passion, regardless of the ultimate drama...
Spot on.

In addition, JMB speaks of how he was really excited to see Barcia and Aranda ride with such passion, regardless of the ultimate drama that it led to on the track.

Racing with heart. That's what it's all about.
Thanks guys, I was thinking along those lines but needed a bit of confirmation.

I understand what JMB was feeling but MM has a program. He needs to put last year behind him and get ready for the next season, Bercy will still be there next time. Imagine if he went and injured himself again.

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