Husqvarna ditches Brembo

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Edited Date/Time 6/3/2017 11:05am
"New for MY18 is a Magura front and rear braking system."
What do you guys think?
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Johnny Depp 5/31/2017 10:18am
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Cost of materials, low bidder. We'll see how they work, but it better work since they are the premium brand and currently enjoy the best brakes in the biz along with their orange brothers.

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ob 5/31/2017 11:28am
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If this is true I hope they are better than the current brembos, or that would have been a bad decision.
joshua.cowin 5/31/2017 11:35am
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Not sure about mx but magura make some amazing mtb brakes, so i reckon they will be decent
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kiwifan 5/31/2017 1:25pm
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Interesting, they make great hydraulic systems...and are quite closely associated to BMW bikes...it will be interesting to see how good these really are, they are pricey too. Breaks a little more away from KTM.

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reded 5/31/2017 1:42pm
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Having owned orange and white, I think I like the Brembo clutch better but the brakes are tad touchy for slow guys.
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Charper732 5/31/2017 2:03pm
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Aftermarket Brembo is one of the best you can get. The OEM supplied by Brembo...not so much. There is a lot of cost cutting and looser tolerances to win the "bid" to be the oem supplier. If you've ever used an aftermarket brembo system, you know exactly what im talking about. There is a reason their stuff cost a premium.
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Can not seem to get a good feeling front brake lever on my 2017 KTM 450.... Tried every bloody thing but still sponge syndrome ahoy!.

It's a bugger as they are ment to be the best, but as said above there is aftermarket, as I have on my Yamaha R1, and my standard KTM fitted, very different indeed.
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#76 wrote:
Can not seem to get a good feeling front brake lever on my 2017 KTM 450.... Tried every bloody thing but still sponge syndrome ahoy!. It's...
Can not seem to get a good feeling front brake lever on my 2017 KTM 450.... Tried every bloody thing but still sponge syndrome ahoy!.

It's a bugger as they are ment to be the best, but as said above there is aftermarket, as I have on my Yamaha R1, and my standard KTM fitted, very different indeed.
Something must be wrong because my '17 KTM front is super crisp...
bartziokas123 5/31/2017 7:54pm
5/31/2017 7:54pm Edited Date/Time 5/31/2017 7:54pm
Look at the top pro's bikes, you will still see Brembo on there. I love KTM and Husky but in the last couple of years they have been cutting costs and increasing the price of the bikes, its getting super disappointing when you pay top dollar and the bike comes with certain parts that are just junk.
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Charper732 5/31/2017 10:37pm
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bartziokas123 wrote:
Look at the top pro's bikes, you will still see Brembo on there. I love KTM and Husky but in the last couple of years they...
Look at the top pro's bikes, you will still see Brembo on there. I love KTM and Husky but in the last couple of years they have been cutting costs and increasing the price of the bikes, its getting super disappointing when you pay top dollar and the bike comes with certain parts that are just junk.
Aftermarket brembo's are a on a completely different level than what OEM brembos are....
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Motofinne 6/1/2017 12:36am
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Well, Husky people wont be happy if they are worse than the Brembo brakes. But i guess there is a reason for it, maybe the Magura brakes are better(i doubt it)?
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#76 wrote:
Can not seem to get a good feeling front brake lever on my 2017 KTM 450.... Tried every bloody thing but still sponge syndrome ahoy!. It's...
Can not seem to get a good feeling front brake lever on my 2017 KTM 450.... Tried every bloody thing but still sponge syndrome ahoy!.

It's a bugger as they are ment to be the best, but as said above there is aftermarket, as I have on my Yamaha R1, and my standard KTM fitted, very different indeed.
Something has to be wrong with it. I have 16h on my SXF 2017 and the brakes are amazing. I got to try a 7 hour old 2017 YZF 450 and the brakes on that were horrendous compared to the Brembos on the KTM.

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Francis377 6/1/2017 2:26am
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I think its a good idea. The Husky should be different from the KTM, as a customer that just gives us more options. If it turns out the Maguras are shit, just buy the KTM.

Magura knows how to build good braking systems. I have never tried them but I dont see why everyones so sure it's a bad move by husky.
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Motofinne 6/1/2017 6:15am
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I do have to say that when i look at the Magura and Brembo front calipers on the 2018 bikes they look very similar. Are they just rebranded Brembos?
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mxtech1 6/1/2017 7:36am
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Charper732 wrote:
Aftermarket Brembo is one of the best you can get. The OEM supplied by Brembo...not so much. There is a lot of cost cutting and looser...
Aftermarket Brembo is one of the best you can get. The OEM supplied by Brembo...not so much. There is a lot of cost cutting and looser tolerances to win the "bid" to be the oem supplier. If you've ever used an aftermarket brembo system, you know exactly what im talking about. There is a reason their stuff cost a premium.
LOL....are you kidding me?

I understand what you are trying to explain, but that's not how it works.

When an OEM is looking for a supplier, they have 2 approaches:
1) the OEM designs a braking system and asks a supplier to manufacture it according to their specs. Under this scenario, multiple suppliers will be approached to quote the work. Many times the cheapest bid does not win. It has more to do with supplier status ratings, ability to meet production needs with the lowest risk, quality history, and market trends.

2) the OEM selects a product already manufactured by the supplier that most closely matches their needs. This is the approach these days, otherwise you would see OEM stamped braking components not Brembo, Magura, Nissin, etc.

It is short sighted of you to think that Brembo is supplying lower quality products to the OEM. I can guarantee you it is the other way around - the OEM is selecting lower grade products to increase profit.
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h_reed 6/1/2017 8:03am
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Moot point. They are going back to Brembo.
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Charper732 6/1/2017 9:23am
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mxtech1 wrote:
LOL....are you kidding me? I understand what you are trying to explain, but that's not how it works. When an OEM is looking for a supplier...
LOL....are you kidding me?

I understand what you are trying to explain, but that's not how it works.

When an OEM is looking for a supplier, they have 2 approaches:
1) the OEM designs a braking system and asks a supplier to manufacture it according to their specs. Under this scenario, multiple suppliers will be approached to quote the work. Many times the cheapest bid does not win. It has more to do with supplier status ratings, ability to meet production needs with the lowest risk, quality history, and market trends.

2) the OEM selects a product already manufactured by the supplier that most closely matches their needs. This is the approach these days, otherwise you would see OEM stamped braking components not Brembo, Magura, Nissin, etc.

It is short sighted of you to think that Brembo is supplying lower quality products to the OEM. I can guarantee you it is the other way around - the OEM is selecting lower grade products to increase profit.
I'm short sighted? No, I just work in estimation and manufacturing. Who gives a shit if it's OEM requesting the lower quality product or not. The fact is OEM Brembo components are LOWER QUALITY compared to their aftermarket equivalents. Every. Time.
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colintrax 6/1/2017 9:28am
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Charper732 wrote:
I'm short sighted? No, I just work in estimation and manufacturing. Who gives a shit if it's OEM requesting the lower quality product or not. The...
I'm short sighted? No, I just work in estimation and manufacturing. Who gives a shit if it's OEM requesting the lower quality product or not. The fact is OEM Brembo components are LOWER QUALITY compared to their aftermarket equivalents. Every. Time.
IMO it's silly you even pointed that out.
Everyone knows production stuff isn't as good as factory parts. My stock brembo brakes aren't as good as Dungey's just the same as my tires arent, or my suspension. Hard to expect a company to mass produce a factory level part. Loose tolerances = faster production.

Replace "brembo" with any company name, your original statement is still true.

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