How about those Yamahas....

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7/10/2021 1:29 PM

Thrasher mechanical DNFl, Plessinger mechanical DNF, and now the 14 smoking....I remember people talking shit on the Vohland's KTM earlier in the year at Pala:

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Vohland-Ktm-bummer,1391335


Well, just proof all bikes can shit the bed. Even the indestructible, unbeatable, most powerful, most reliable, Star Yamahas

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7/10/2021 1:35 PM

Well Ferrandis is still looking like he will get the overall, so there's that. I'm surprised Plessinger even did the interview. He looked so pissed.

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7/10/2021 2:01 PM

The blue pig won 4 out of 5 races and when it didn’t win it got 2nd. And manufactures haven’t made it to the box once yet…

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7/10/2021 2:03 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/10/2021 2:04 PM

Just one of those things that happens. Good riding by Ferrandis to bring it home....

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7/10/2021 2:05 PM

Bring back Wil Hahn!

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7/10/2021 2:21 PM

dv12.com wrote:

The blue pig won 4 out of 5 races and when it didn’t win it got 2nd. And manufactures haven’t made it to the box once yet…

What happened in Supercross where the nickname "Blue Pig" originated? There was definitely a new and improved Star bike for '21 SX but it was still a Blue Pig considering your rider went from struggling indoors to dominating outdoors. Completely different rider outdoors, and I feel Dylan is just as good indoors as he proved on the 250.

The Yamaha has never struggled outdoors so I'm not sure why people are surprised it's the bike to beat right now. As for indoors, we'll see what happens in '22. If Star has the bike sorted out for SX next year I expect to see your rider at the front and the nickname Blue Pig will be put to rest once and for all. If not next year, then hopefully the all new '23 Yamaha will do the job indoors.

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7/10/2021 2:42 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/10/2021 2:43 PM

I can't imagine caring if a certain manufacturer's bike doesn't do well. And seemingly rooting for it to do poorly. It's pretty weird

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7/10/2021 2:49 PM

You Yamaha haters are worse than the KTM nuthuggers. Just STFU. These bikes are all good now and any of them can win indoors or out.

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7/10/2021 2:49 PM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

What happened in Supercross where the nickname "Blue Pig" originated? There was definitely a new and improved Star bike for ...more

Isn’t Grant Langston the last Yamaha rider to win a MX title? Who was the last Yamaha rider being a contender outdoors in 450? I seriously can’t think of one but could be wrong. GL was on the carburated bike and old generation model before the EFI & backwards engine…

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7/10/2021 2:56 PM

dv12.com wrote:

The blue pig won 4 out of 5 races and when it didn’t win it got 2nd. And manufactures haven’t made it to the box once yet…

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

What happened in Supercross where the nickname "Blue Pig" originated? There was definitely a new and improved Star bike for ...more

dv12.com wrote:

Isn’t Grant Langston the last Yamaha rider to win a MX title? Who was the last Yamaha rider being a contender outdoors in 450? ...more

You would know better than I, but I don't recall the riders talking as much smack on the bike outdoors as they do indoors. I would bet the 450 has had better results outdoors but I could be wrong. The majority of the Blue Pig talk has been about it's SX results.

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7/10/2021 2:58 PM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

You would know better than I, but I don't recall the riders talking as much smack on the bike outdoors as they do indoors. I ...more

What about Honda and its lack of SX titles since the 450 was introduced?

Must be a major fat pig.

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7/10/2021 3:03 PM

dv12.com wrote:

Isn’t Grant Langston the last Yamaha rider to win a MX title? Who was the last Yamaha rider being a contender outdoors in 450? ...more

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

You would know better than I, but I don't recall the riders talking as much smack on the bike outdoors as they do indoors. I ...more

-MAVERICK- wrote:

What about Honda and its lack of SX titles since the 450 was introduced?

Must be a major fat pig.

I don't know...never heard the term Red Pig have you?. Maybe it's had better results in terms of wins? Not sure but I'm sure someone can pull up all the stats.

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7/10/2021 3:13 PM

“How about those Yamaha’s”

The butt hurt must be unbearable for some of you.

After sweeping both 250 SX championships, Yamaha comes out swinging in MX and is in solid contention for both championships right out of the gate.

Adding insult to injury to the other OEM’s, they release a completely revamped 2 stroke MX bike lineup. Also in the same week, they go on to either extend or close the points gap in both Nationals series at the most demanding circuit on the tour.

Tough times indeed for the boys in blue…



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7/10/2021 3:15 PM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

I don't know...never heard the term Red Pig have you?. Maybe it's had better results in terms of wins? Not sure but I'm sure ...more

Manufacturers spend millions to go racing for titles.

Last 450 SX title won by Yamaha: 2009 James Stewart
Last 450 Outdoor Title Won by Yamaha: 2007 Grant Langston

450 SX Titles Won by Honda: None
Last 450 Outdoor Title Won by Honda: 2004 Ricky Carmichael

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7/10/2021 3:27 PM

I'm confused, are you and DV arguing that the Yamaha 450 is a Blue Pig outdoors too since it hasn't won a title since before the cylinder was reversed? I don't recall the blue 450 struggling outdoors as much as it has struggled indoors.

How about digging up the moto and main event results?

Or, are you saying the Honda is a Red Pig???

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7/10/2021 3:32 PM

Anyone that has been to the pits at a national this year can see the writing on the wall. The Star Yamaha is going to have some issues this year with mechanicals. They have WAY too many hands on the bikes between motos. They have WAY too many bikes out of 2 trailers. It’s total chaos in the yamaha pits. Something is going to get missed. That’s just the way it is when you have that many employees and that many bikes. I work in the racing industry so I have seen it over and over. John Force racing has the same problems.

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7/10/2021 3:39 PM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

You Yamaha haters are worse than the KTM nuthuggers. Just STFU. These bikes are all good now and any of them can win indoors ...more

yes they’re just wide and large like modern jertskiis. the designers are disconnected, perhaps because of their youth, from the razor thin, sharp angled aesthetic we were supposed to continue moving to from the 80’s.

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7/10/2021 3:41 PM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

I'm confused, are you and DV arguing that the Yamaha 450 is a Blue Pig outdoors too since it hasn't won a title since before ...more

Your abhorrence towards Yamaha is pretty fucking pathetic.

#Troll

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7/10/2021 3:42 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/10/2021 3:48 PM

The best rider won. Color of the bike means nothing. We should be more worried that American riders cant win the USA national tittle.

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7/10/2021 3:42 PM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

You Yamaha haters are worse than the KTM nuthuggers. Just STFU. These bikes are all good now and any of them can win indoors ...more

jonesaustin wrote:

yes they’re just wide and large like modern jertskiis. the designers are disconnected, perhaps because of their youth, from ...more

Have you ever actually measured them against other bikes? Because I have.

14 YZF vs 17 RMZ can 17 CRF.
Fun fact, Yamaha wasn’t the widest. The width only started a bit sooner. The rest? Well, Suzuki was the widest at the end of the shrouds and mid shroud, Honda was the widest.

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7/10/2021 3:45 PM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Have you ever actually measured them against other bikes? Because I have.

14 YZF vs 17 RMZ can 17 CRF.
Fun fact, Yamaha wasn ...more

Get out of here with your facts. I don’t care what you say. The Yamahas look heavy and feel big because. Well, just because.

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7/10/2021 4:06 PM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

I'm confused, are you and DV arguing that the Yamaha 450 is a Blue Pig outdoors too since it hasn't won a title since before ...more

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Your abhorrence towards Yamaha is pretty fucking pathetic.

#Troll

How about pulling up the stats instead of name calling? Don't shoot the messenger...

It's amazing how everyone has argued against the SX results for years and they get super upset when someone has the balls to mention the stats or a bike failure. I do not make the stats and I did not cause the Yamaha mechanicals today, don't be mad at me. Nate Thrasher was on my fantasy team, do you think I was rooting for that DNF or I would have picked him if I hated Yamaha?

BTW, my favorite brand is Suzuki...I have the ability to accept where the bike stands based on it's results. I own many brands of bikes and will be buying another Yamaha in '23 when it's all new. I am not brand biased and I've owned every color. Most importantly, I do not sleep with my bikes and can accept others relaying the stats on Suzuki results and DNFs.....

Will you guys feel better when I buy a '23 Yamaha to add to my arsenal?? Yamaha 250 has been the best 250 hands down. Yamaha 450 is currently dominating outdoors. Feel better yet?

I repeat, don't shoot the messenger.

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7/10/2021 4:08 PM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

How about pulling up the stats instead of name calling? Don't shoot the messenger...

It's amazing how everyone has argued ...more

How about do your own research.

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"Sorry Goose, but it's time to buzz the tower."

7/10/2021 4:19 PM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

I'm confused, are you and DV arguing that the Yamaha 450 is a Blue Pig outdoors too since it hasn't won a title since before ...more

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Your abhorrence towards Yamaha is pretty fucking pathetic.

#Troll

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

How about pulling up the stats instead of name calling? Don't shoot the messenger...

It's amazing how everyone has argued ...more

You’ve been doing the same shit for years now, don’t get you sick of it? Yeah your blue pig jokes were funny at the start, but it’s just embarrassing now.

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7/10/2021 4:22 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/10/2021 4:22 PM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Thrasher mechanical DNFl, Plessinger mechanical DNF, and now the 14 smoking....I remember people talking shit on the Vohland's ...more

Douche

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7/10/2021 4:27 PM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Your abhorrence towards Yamaha is pretty fucking pathetic.

#Troll

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

How about pulling up the stats instead of name calling? Don't shoot the messenger...

It's amazing how everyone has argued ...more

M8 wrote:

You’ve been doing the same shit for years now, don’t get you sick of it? Yeah your blue pig jokes were funny at the start, but ...more

You are correct, I have been relaying the stats for years. Since about the time they reversed the cylinder. There's stats and then there's shit talking...with the worst shit talking going to my favorite brand that still has a kick starter. Feel free to talk smack on the yellow pig or relay recent Suzuki stats all you want. I won't need a box of kleenex...

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7/10/2021 4:28 PM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

You Yamaha haters are worse than the KTM nuthuggers. Just STFU. These bikes are all good now and any of them can win indoors ...more

Psssst: Yamaha haters and KTM nut huggers are the same people

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7/10/2021 4:28 PM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Thrasher mechanical DNFl, Plessinger mechanical DNF, and now the 14 smoking....I remember people talking shit on the Vohland's ...more

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Douche

So sensitive....more like facts.

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7/10/2021 4:30 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/10/2021 4:32 PM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

How about pulling up the stats instead of name calling? Don't shoot the messenger...

It's amazing how everyone has argued ...more

M8 wrote:

You’ve been doing the same shit for years now, don’t get you sick of it? Yeah your blue pig jokes were funny at the start, but ...more

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

You are correct, I have been relaying the stats for years. Since about the time they reversed the cylinder. There's stats and ...more

I love how you jerkoffs love to yell BLUE PIG!!!! And then when the bike does good you go “oh, well this SX track was more open” or “oh this is an outdoor track”. Blah blah blah, all bullshit

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7/10/2021 4:44 PM

dv12.com wrote:

The blue pig won 4 out of 5 races and when it didn’t win it got 2nd. And manufactures haven’t made it to the box once yet…

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

What happened in Supercross where the nickname "Blue Pig" originated? There was definitely a new and improved Star bike for ...more

dv12.com wrote:

Isn’t Grant Langston the last Yamaha rider to win a MX title? Who was the last Yamaha rider being a contender outdoors in 450? ...more

But DV, they had Davi, Brayton, Barcia, Nicoletti and Josh Grant those years! Can’t believe they didn’t win a title! Definitely the bike, those riders should have been title threats!

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