Bud Racing's Radical Aluminum-Framed 125 Two-Stroke

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12/13/2016 6:05 PM

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Bud’s two-stroke project bike started life as a Kawasaki KX250F four-stroke. It is equipped with Ohlins suspension, 270mm Braking front rotor, Bud Racing wheels, rear holeshot device, triple clamps and graphics. It weighs 208 pounds.

This bike could be raced in the EMX 125 Two-Stroke Championship reports MXA.

Bud Racing fields one of the largest motocross teams in Europe and are well known in America for bringing French riders to America and Americans to Europe—including Daniel Sanayei who was second in EMX250 this past season. For 2017 Bud Racing will support former Geico Honda rider Tristan Charboneau. Bud has a U.S. race shop in Elsinore, California, but their base of operations is in France.

Check this link for more Info: bud-racings-radical-aluminum-framed-125-two-stroke

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Bud Racing’s goal was to build a bike that would allow a KX85 rider to transition from a minicycle to a big bike without having to struggled with the weight of a four-stroke. Plus, since every KX85 rider is a proficient two-stroke rider, the only change in riding style would be for the more powerful 125cc two-stroke engine.

Bud Racing built this special 125cc two-stroke-powered KX250F. However, there were issues. As an official Kawasaki team, Bud could not find a sufficient supply of Kawasaki KX125 engines, since that model had been discontinued years ago. To make the project work they needed a solid 125cc two-stroke engine for which a large base of hop-up info and a good supply of part was available. The answer? A Yamaha YZ125 engine in a Kawasaki KX250F frame. The YZ125 engine is still in production and technical information abounds.







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12/13/2016 6:14 PM

I am trying to figure out your agenda on this site. I understand you are pro two stroke, and have this grand delusion that an EFI two stroke will save moto. But, you fail to comprehend that there are plenty of two stroke options currently available...and their current retail prices are much cheaper then any EFI two stroke will ever be.

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Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

12/13/2016 6:16 PM

Budget build.

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12/13/2016 6:46 PM

BUD RACING’S RADICAL ALUMINUM-FRAMED 125 TWO-STROKE

Is it 1992?

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12/13/2016 7:02 PM

Pretty cool.

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12/13/2016 7:11 PM

K, so now I understand Bobpa doesn't appreciate a trick 2 stroke.

Yes Bobpa there are non EFI 2 strokes available that have not been updated in years. And with all the 4 stroke Kool Aid drinkers riding bikes with EFI, who will remember how to jet a 2 stroke ? Is that your issue with EFI ? That in the future nobody will know what jetting was ?

My 'Agenda' is that $9k for a 4 stroke dirt bike is a lot of money for a toy. I am not the one who built, or let the cat out of the bag about the new EFI KTM 2 strokes, but I hope to see the Japanese follow suit and update their 2 stroke lines.

I live in Colorado and would love to have a 400cc EFI 2 stroke I could ride from my house into the mountains. That's my Agenda :-)

And if EFI 2 strokes won't save Moto, what will ? The Above referenced BUD Racing 125 would be uber trick with EFI.

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Jim Pomeroy heads to the line at the Escape Country National, on a 2 Stroke

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12/13/2016 7:17 PM

colorado2day wrote:

K, so now I understand Bobpa doesn't appreciate a trick 2 stroke.

Yes Bobpa there are non EFI 2 strokes available that have ...more

Dude. Really? Lol an efi two stroke will save Moto?? The weed in Colorado must be unreal lol

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12/13/2016 7:39 PM

Who said moto needs saving???? What's wrong with it?

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Don’t piss off the old people - the older they get the less “life in prison” is a deterrent for them!

2020.5 KTM 450 SXF FE
2006 KX250

12/13/2016 7:51 PM

RandyS wrote:

BUD RACING’S RADICAL ALUMINUM-FRAMED 125 TWO-STROKE

Is it 1992?

Looks like the title of an MXA article...

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12/13/2016 8:07 PM

The most radical thing about it is that it's a Kawamaha.

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12/13/2016 8:15 PM

colorado2day wrote:

K, so now I understand Bobpa doesn't appreciate a trick 2 stroke.

Yes Bobpa there are non EFI 2 strokes available that have ...more

motosurf wrote:

Dude. Really? Lol an efi two stroke will save Moto?? The weed in Colorado must be unreal lol

A friend got the brand new 2017 CRF450R for $8300 (MSRP is $8849) delivered to his home... The current KTM 250 SX has an MSRP of $7699 but is much, much harder to get a deal on. The majority I see sell for their MSRP plus tax and license... I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say the EFI version of this bike will bump up a couple hundred dollars and place it into the $8000 range for MSRP. The pricing will not be much different for this new bike versus what someone will be able to get a 450 out the door for. Two-stroke sales aren't high enough to snag the attention to get the manufacturers that are out to jump back in. The amount of sales Yamaha produces now and sees as a total amount of new two-stroke sales isn't high enough for the R&D group to convince the bean counters to give them money to update their two-strokes. Currently, the difference between a YZ250 and YZ250F in MSRP is $300.

Lastly, your 400cc EFI Two-stroke will probably have to be built yourself as the chances of KTM making that cc size are fairly slim going forward.

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12/13/2016 8:16 PM

RandyS wrote:

BUD RACING’S RADICAL ALUMINUM-FRAMED 125 TWO-STROKE

Is it 1992?

Jmicmoto13 wrote:

Looks like the title of an MXA article...

It is an MXA article title, in their usual full caps. I changed it so my eyes would quit burning. laughing

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12/13/2016 8:36 PM

I have a feeling this "radical" bud-125 is a lot more than $9000

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12/13/2016 8:39 PM
Edited Date/Time: 12/13/2016 8:39 PM

colorado2day wrote:

K, so now I understand Bobpa doesn't appreciate a trick 2 stroke.

Yes Bobpa there are non EFI 2 strokes available that have ...more

2 strokes have not been updated in years? KTM/Husky's small bored were a brand new ground up design in 2016, the 250's are brand new this year...Or did your delusions make you miss those details?

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Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

12/13/2016 8:54 PM
Edited Date/Time: 12/13/2016 8:55 PM

I won't usually criticize someone who built a really cool bike, that obviously has more knowledge than me in setting up a pro level bike but this article just has a giant question mark all over it.

As a Kawasaki supported team they built a bike with a Yamaha engine. Huh?

They took a bike with an aluminum frame and the best stock suspension, pulled the engine and put it in an aluminum frame designed for a different engine. Added, tens of thousands of dollars in suspension and titanium to make a bike that weighs 208lbs, 16 lbs less than a KX250f. The same weight as the stock bike they took the engine out of ? Radical?????????

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12/13/2016 9:16 PM
Edited Date/Time: 12/13/2016 9:16 PM

Im just going to leave this here. Try to keep it to just 1 or 2 selections. That is a good working start, at least:

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much ty. How to spot a paid forum poster/artificial forum traffic producer (see list of actions/phrases below):

Copius pattern amounts of phrases like “Anyone have”..., “Anybody know?”.... and their variations.

Thoughts?
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks in advance!





12/13/2016 9:24 PM

I like those two freakin' bikes and you guys can bitch all you want. Sweet machines weather you like 2 strokes or not.

Thanks to the OP for putting the info up.

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And there goes Jeffro. One of God's own prototypes. A super high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

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12/13/2016 10:29 PM

It says in the original post that it could be raced in the emx 125 championship..... It was in 2016
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12/13/2016 10:50 PM

That bike is old news...They used that in 2015. This year they raced KTM made to look like Kawasaki

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12/13/2016 11:23 PM

Sidecar wrote:

It says in the original post that it could be raced in the emx 125 championship..... It was in 2016
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Thank you for using my picture I took this year at Matterly Basin cool

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12/13/2016 11:26 PM

JMX82 wrote:

That bike is old news...They used that in 2015. This year they raced KTM made to look like Kawasaki

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It was raced this year my Brian Moreau. Kim Savaste was a late signing for the team so with the cost of building the bike & the time frame it was decided he would use a disguised KTM.

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12/14/2016 5:31 AM

colorado2day wrote:

K, so now I understand Bobpa doesn't appreciate a trick 2 stroke.

Yes Bobpa there are non EFI 2 strokes available that have ...more

motosurf wrote:

Dude. Really? Lol an efi two stroke will save Moto?? The weed in Colorado must be unreal lol

ML512 wrote:

A friend got the brand new 2017 CRF450R for $8300 (MSRP is $8849) delivered to his home... The current KTM 250 SX has an MSRP ...more

Man I completely agree with you on the two stroke and the pricing/impact it will have on the sport. But, in our area which is East Texas, you can get amazing deals on KTM two strokes if you're looking at it from a pricing issue. If I had to guess the amount of two stroke sales compared to current four stroke sales is extremely small. We have to remember that as much as we moto heads love our sport it is relatively small so our justification for growth and dollars spent isn't there....if the factories are happy making what they are they could care less if we get our latest and greatest two stroke machine!!!

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12/14/2016 5:48 AM

208 pounds.....

New KTM's are lighter at stock trim.

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2016 Husky FC 250
2020 CRF 110

12/14/2016 6:10 AM

"Bud Racing's Radical Aluminum-Framed 125 Two-Stroke"

Yaaaawwwwn. Ah well, it is the off season.

I love the old 2 strokes as much as anybody - my sole ride is a mint '98 CR125. But I'm under no delusions that the good old days are coming back.

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12/14/2016 6:51 AM

GuyB wrote:

The most radical thing about it is that it's a Kawamaha.

Exactly!

Everyone knows the Kawsuki's were piles.

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12/14/2016 7:22 AM

Rocket88 wrote:

Exactly!

Everyone knows the Kawsuki's were piles.

You take that back!

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12/14/2016 7:29 AM

GuyB wrote:

The most radical thing about it is that it's a Kawamaha.

Rocket88 wrote:

Exactly!

Everyone knows the Kawsuki's were piles.

Kx125rider wrote:

You take that back!

No!

...and don't tell anyone about my Zundap/Carrabela creation.

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12/14/2016 7:41 AM

Yes, it is cool, but just go buy a YZ125 and call it a day. Or the 2017 KTM125SX, as it is better than all of them, with a steel frame.

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12/14/2016 8:51 AM

colorado2day wrote: Photo

Bud’s two-stroke project bike started life as a Kawasaki KX250F four-stroke. It is equipped with Ohlins suspension, 270mm ...more

How many people are actually capable of creating this though....not many.

Something tells me a yz125 would be just as competitive...and save dozens of hours of labor.

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Greg D.
2018 yz250f

12/14/2016 9:03 AM

jeffro503 wrote:

I like those two freakin' bikes and you guys can bitch all you want. Sweet machines weather you like 2 strokes or not.

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I agree, that thing is awesome!

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