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12/28/2011 7:05 AM

Getting a membership renewal in the mail. I can lock in a three year deal for $39.00 a year, total $117.00. Includes free roadside assistance for all my vehicles. Should I do it??? Sounds like a bargain considering all they do for motocross here in the US, especially my favorite class, the 125's. Oh, failed to mention that I'm a paid in full life member since the early 90's.....whistling

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12/28/2011 7:17 AM

Yeah, that special offer (to rejoin for the regular price) showed up at my house yesterday too.

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12/28/2011 7:37 AM

Sounds like they already con'ed you back in the 90's

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12/28/2011 8:03 AM

I got that offer as well.

www.amajoin.org

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12/28/2011 8:07 AM

pitbike502 wrote:

Sounds like they already con'ed you back in the 90's

Con'ed? Local tracks were AMA sanctioned for some series races back then and to race any AHRMA events (which I have since 1991 to current) you had to be an AMA member also. Life membership back then was $350.00 so considering it was an unavoidable extortion fee, I took the least expensive way out. Do the math for about 18 years. A few years back, AHRMA and the AMA had a falling out over a frivolous pissing match of a lawsuit that cost the AMA over $750,000.00 of members money and bankrupted AHRMA and wiped out the injured riders benevolent fund of which I was a long time contributor of. Thank you Jeff Smith (500cc World Champion '64/'65) for dryfucking your members. Just thought I'd mention that.....again! AHRMA no longer requires AMA membership to participate.

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12/28/2011 8:10 AM
Edited Date/Time: 12/28/2011 8:12 AM

Mine was $250 when I bought the Life and I have used an AMA card since they were a DOLLAR at Saddleback in 1971*

*pretty sure we bitched then about having to buy one..

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I don't trust any "Joined Date" later than 2012

12/28/2011 8:12 AM

newmann wrote:

Con'ed? Local tracks were AMA sanctioned for some series races back then and to race any AHRMA events (which I have since 1991 ...more

This just might have to be my new signature for 2012!

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12/28/2011 8:16 AM

pitbike502 wrote:

Sounds like they already con'ed you back in the 90's

newmann wrote:

Con'ed? Local tracks were AMA sanctioned for some series races back then and to race any AHRMA events (which I have since 1991 ...more

yosmithy wrote:

This just might have to be my new signature for 2012!

It is definitely worthy !!

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November 13th, Forever in our memories !!

12/28/2011 8:55 AM

Highsider wrote:

Mine was $250 when I bought the Life and I have used an AMA card since they were a DOLLAR at Saddleback in 1971*

*pretty sure ...more

Man, in retrospect that $250 is a steal!!

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12/28/2011 8:56 AM

yosmithy wrote:

This just might have to be my new signature for 2012!

I'm sure that warped, uh I mean creative little mind of yours could come up with something much better. You should sketch one. The Alessi airlift was epic, although it never happened.whistling

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12/28/2011 9:02 AM

newmann wrote:

Con'ed? Local tracks were AMA sanctioned for some series races back then and to race any AHRMA events (which I have since 1991 ...more

yosmithy wrote:

This just might have to be my new signature for 2012!

newmann wrote:

I'm sure that warped, uh I mean creative little mind of yours could come up with something much better. You should sketch one. ...more

I plan to commission an original Yosmithy this year. I'm trying to decide between Short's crash on the KTM or Brooks' family vacation. Either would be mantle-worthy, but I can only afford one.

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12/28/2011 9:05 AM

oh, it happened all right. I dare anyone to prove this actual photo was edited in any way!

Photo

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12/28/2011 9:16 AM

GrapeApe wrote:

I plan to commission an original Yosmithy this year. I'm trying to decide between Short's crash on the KTM or Brooks' family ...more

Dude, you're gonna make me start drinking again with those ideas

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12/28/2011 9:22 AM
Edited Date/Time: 12/28/2011 9:28 AM

Kinda big news from Redbud:

Important AMA fee info! Current members can renew for up to three years for $39 through March 31st. New members can join for $39 through December 31st. After those dates, membership fee will be $49/year.

RedBud will NOT require AMA membership in 2012, EXCEPT for the Loretta Lynn Regional qualifier and the ATV National,

but we know many of you will want to continue your memberships, so take advantage of the savings and renew early!
You won't lose months by renewing early; they'll add another year on to your current expiration date.

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I don't trust any "Joined Date" later than 2012

12/28/2011 9:23 AM

I dunno.
I'm sure the HD guys, especially the pre beltdrive guys, love it.
Every one of them has a half dozen horror stories on breaking down in the middle of nowhere.
What it does for the racer I'm not really sure.

What's to stop the AMA from quitting racing altogether?
Sell it off for good, like AAA did.
AAA got out of it when they had a few guys get killed at their events.
Dingman has said that's what he want's, to be the AAA of 2 wheelers.
When does MXSPORTS and DMG have to reup?
I heard it was a 10 year deal.
And that was a few years ago.

If I was a racer, I'd pass.
If I had a street bike and did a bit of touring, yeah, not bad to help the cause..

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12/28/2011 9:40 AM

I heard of them 25 years ago, not much since then.

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"Welcome to Southern California......the mecca of motocross racing." ~ Jason Wiegant

12/28/2011 10:03 AM

Guessing not too many memberships sold in SoCal? I've only bought one once, and that was to race amateur day back when Glen Helen had a nat. Never saw more than one page at a time about mx.

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If only those who knew less didn't always think they knew better.

12/28/2011 10:14 AM

Hey guys, wasn't so much about how much a three year membership was but that I'm a paid in full life member and they are trying to get me to pay for a membership. How many old memory lapsing life members are writing checks? I'm sure the AMA probably just has a "glitch" in the system .whistling

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12/28/2011 10:17 AM

yosmithy wrote:

oh, it happened all right. I dare anyone to prove this actual photo was edited in any way!

Photo

Right click, save as..... yosmithy art. A true classic. Looking forward to your next "work".

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12/28/2011 10:21 AM

I'm sure Windham got the same letter

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12/28/2011 10:35 AM

I only get one if I have to and since I have been racing only local track races and not AMA sanctioned events, I have not had to buy an AMA membership for quite some time. I actually have more fun at the local track races instead of lining AMA Ceo's pocket with money or contributing money so AMA can squabble with lawers against AHRMA or other orgs.

I would only buy one if I had to because I felt I had to race some AMA sanctioned event (I rather support a local track instead)

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Motocross is a contact sport

12/28/2011 11:16 AM

newmann wrote:

Hey guys, wasn't so much about how much a three year membership was but that I'm a paid in full life member and they are ...more

I've been getting a bill from AT&T for the past year with a balance of $0.00 despite not having an AT&T account for over two years. Just sayin... AMA probably outsources their direct mail marketing to a third-party who probably uses a database of people that doesn't distinguish between life members or not.

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Here's my new non-political signature.

12/28/2011 11:26 AM
Edited Date/Time: 12/28/2011 11:41 AM

Where to start?

AMA has been a farce for some time.

They let the four-stroke "revolution" occur with so little forethought it is scary. The result is future generations of Motocrossers being completely priced out of our sport.

They still have not done anything mentionable to address the noise issue with the four strokes either.

Add in the Edmondson, AHRMA, and Supercross Fiascos that burned through MILLIONS of their member's dues and it is a wonder that they have the membership that they claim to still have.

Now we hear rumors about a ridiculous amount of money being paid to it’s president while the organization is hemorrhaging members and alienating long time promoters.

The serious question is how much longer will the AMA exist?

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12/28/2011 12:06 PM

Someone's getting a big chunk of money from them and it's not the people who attend and help at the races...

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12/28/2011 12:59 PM

Gawd, I am glad to be OUT of the motocross business.cool

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I don't trust any "Joined Date" later than 2012

12/28/2011 1:51 PM

newmann wrote:

Hey guys, wasn't so much about how much a three year membership was but that I'm a paid in full life member and they are ...more

Temor a la Mancha wrote:

I've been getting a bill from AT&T for the past year with a balance of $0.00 despite not having an AT&T account for ...more

It's not just a glitch. I was reading the latest AMA magazine the other night and noticed a full page ad targeted specifically at AMA Life members, touting the benefits of buying a yearly membership to gain the roadside assistance and other "benefits" the yearly paid members get. I thought it was a ridiculous attempt to get more $$. I also received 2-4 letters each month for the last 8 months of my current membership telling me "it's time to renew, your membership is about to expire". Got multiple emails too. Finally responded once saying "spend your money elsewhere instead of on propaganda to get me to resubscribe. I'm a racer, I HAVE to resubscribe, don't worry about me".

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It's life...LIVE it!

12/28/2011 4:05 PM

I wonder if subscring to racer x etc.. had anything to do with it? I haven't been a member since 1987, when i was 17, and I got the "renewal" notice.

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12/28/2011 4:17 PM

I renew mine even though I haven't used it for YEARS. I look at it like this, I donate every year to our states food bank, I never get ANYTHING from it, but most of it is put to good use, I think 93 cents per dollar. I don't know what the AMA cent per dollar for good use is, but no matter what anyone says, they are there for a good purpose.

I lived, ate, and shit this sport for over 30 years, I figure it's a small token of my appreciation to a group of people who want to fight for our rights as riders. I usually don't see the benefits on my doorstep, but they are there to help.

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12/28/2011 6:04 PM

Highsider wrote:

Mine was $250 when I bought the Life and I have used an AMA card since they were a DOLLAR at Saddleback in 1971*

*pretty sure ...more

mark_swart wrote:

Man, in retrospect that $250 is a steal!!

Bought a life membership for my two sons and myself 20 years agosmile. Though i am not in lock step with the AMA, it has had a great ROI!

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Germany 1975 250 CZ Centerport, laydown shocks, mikuni with reed valve, Marzocchi forks with me as the motopilot

12/28/2011 7:33 PM

There is alot of things "people" don't need. Evidently history, process and foundations don't matter anymore? I am not "mad" at anything, but if any track, no matter how big or small decides that they don't "need" to place the AMA banner on thier product. It's their choice. Then why would the people who do support the AMA , and it's membership want to support those places?

People may not "go to races" because it's AMA. But many races are or began as AMA and were built by that process. We are not talking nationals pro stuff here, but rather the real part of AMA which is the every day rider and racer who simply enjoys to go racing. AMA has for years been about that. Whats even more funny is when "people" decide to pull away from ama for this big issue only to go on to charge thier own membership fees. but we had this discussion already on another thread and won't go back over all that stuff again. You can believe what ya like and I know what i see and have seen for a long time. many "people" may dismiss it, as no big deal. well maybe it isn't, to me it seems that it's simply a lack of respect..

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