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I totally agree that 38 is improving, and he really is the only possible threat to the Law firm. However, as he improves, they are as well, notably Jett.....who still isn't anywhere near his true potential. Deegs also needs to settle his riding down a cog or two. He uses so much energy hammering around, revving his bike like a supermini, and it's not going to work. The Lawrence boys never hit the rev limiter by my ear, and just float around looking as if they are on a Sunday cruise, hopping around with what looks like little to no...

That little punk is definitely not a quitter. His daddy wasnt either, as far as when he actually raced. Cant stand either of them. But , they are not quitters and for sure have talent. Damn, that was rough admitting to that. 😀

im far from a deegan fan but,,,,to be fair to him,, when the lawrences moved up,,there were no lawrences,,there was only the rest of the field Jett is a phenom,and Hunter is catching up fast if you take out the Lawrences,,Deegan is leading his rookie championship,,not too shabby whether he can get to the pace of hunter and jett is yet to be seen,maybe,maybe not but if he cannot beat jett or hunter straight up this season,he may never win,,,as lucas and sacha are coming,and sexton shimoda etc personally i can only see two scenarios,,, deegan gets to jetts level,,,or,,,he...

Deegan is literally the only one challenging. Prado, at times. And yeah, he’s getting better and has exceeded everyone’s expectations. The Nats are always a little depleted.

Situational fatigue ≠ overall fitness or mentality. That distinction takes applying nuance and context, not weird obsession which is why you’re probably struggling to follow the reasoning.

Typical troll....only posts in Deegan threads and on his 3rd user name in 3 months...

So you just can’t post without name calling right, even though the guidelines talk about it. So do you feel the guidelines and everything that ML has set up just don’t apply to you? Guidelines: “.. user repeatedly engages in name-calling, attacks, or stalking other posters, moderators will step in. Offenders will find themselves "clicked" (banned or suspended) to separate dueling parties.”

You’re right on one point - 450 class is weak. Again, we all know Jett is faster than everybody, why do you pick out an inexperienced rookie to compare him to?

Deegan had worked his way through the pack in Moto 1 and had expended a lot of energy crashing and passing people in the first moto. (moreso than Jett and Hunter), who had hole-shotted and had a clear first half of the race. In moto 2, he was more gassed than them. By the end of moto 2, when opportunity arose, to pass Jett, he clearly did not have the energy. You can see it clearly in Buttery's video.

Why are we comparing Deegan to Jett? Jett’s faster, duh. Why go to nth degree to try and hammer that in? It’s just stupid. Because he trolled Jett early on and doesn’t apologize or roll over? Here we are trying to build some kind of Jett superhero scenario against a kid rookie. Ridiculous What we should compare is when Jett goes quasar - only when Hunter has a comfortable lead in the points - Hunter at Pala, and then goes 1-1 at Hangtown. Hmm

Agreed. I absolutely cannot stand Deegan. But he is a bad dude on a bike and very impressive with what he is doing so early in his 450 career in terms of pace and consistency.

I agree, he dropped him, and he's not at their level. My statement, was that I wouldn't count Haidens last 2 laps for comparison, as he likely mailed it in, after realizing he can't match Jett's pace.

I'd push back a bit, and say the last 2 laps Haiden realized Jett was on another level, and backed it off. I'm not a Deegan fan, but have to give him respect, he's an animal out there, and the closest one to the Law Firm.

If insecure means being weirded out by the obsession by you guys. Then yes, I'm extremely insecure.

It's 2026, we won't judge you for having feelings for another man. It's really obvious and I actually feel bad for you trying to mask it with such vitriol.

You saw all this since you joined in July?……Hmmmmm….. Here is what was actually said about Jett and Deegan prior to the start of the season back in March….so apparently you only see what you want to see so here’s some actual facts for you….99% of “everything” in the below thread said Deegs would be 3-5 at Pala…. https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/anyone-else-thinks-deegan-b…

I think the only one you’re trying to convince is yourself. I don’t know very many people that said Deegan would beat everybody and dominate. The general consensus, even among Deegan fans, was that he would probably win some races, but wouldn’t beat Jett, Hunter, Eli or Prado on the regular. For the few people that did say Deegan would dominate and win, individuals like yourself counteract and balance the lunacy with your own nonsense. I recall a lot of people saying that Deegan had no chance against Prado, for example. Haiden is doing excellent for a rookie. The two...

You are in these Deegan threads more than anybody X 10....the only homies you have are your 3 user names on here....

I think at times Haiden can run their pace. We've seen it in quali's and at various points in motos, and I'd imagine it will happen more often. Every rider out there is constantly seeking incremental growth but since he's newer to the 450 I'd imagine probably has more places to grow before his returns diminish. One strength I've noticed from Deegs is that he's very good at hitting a benchmark and then treating that as a new launching off point. Set goal > barely achieve it > learn to normalize it > stabilize > set new goal > repeat...

I know the topic got downvoted into oblivion (which I guess is cuz the American fans are stoked on some fresh faces who could challenge the Hunter bros) but overall I think its a rushed and premature move. I think they could have made more money waiting a year or 2 in GP's and then come over as 22 year old prospects (still young) with a bit more SX under their belt (maybe do some offseason SX stuff or WSX to get better prepped). Dude 2028 could have a completely non-American top 5, 450 soon never mind podium, which is...