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lol exactly if the brothers weren't around. he'd have multiple wins, and be on his way to winning his rookie season 450 mx title with a sizeable gap over jorge. Does he need to adjust his riding style to be more efficient yes, does he need to develop the bike set up more, also yes. two things can be true at once. but vital HATES deegan more then anything. according to them his bike is just an excuse, his team is perfect, the lawrences are perfect, everyone else that he's beat is still better then him, but also it doesnt...

Only four pages so far. Number 38 is losing his touch. He’s going to have to come up with something better next week,

" And no, he is not on the same level of Jett his rookie year." In fairness, Jett did not have to race against Jett or Hunter. So if you pull those guys off the chess board, 38's results are pretty damn good. TM

I think your framing is flawed. As has already been said, the first thing from almost everyone who would have a brother in that exact situation would be to ask about him. Absolute human nature. The “ young man more concerned about his big brother's well-being than his own race win” part is faulty, though. The race had already ended. At that point he wasn’t choosing between his race win and his brother’s health. In reality, finishing the race was closer to putting his race win first when you think about it. But without any reason to believe that Hunter...

OK, a five-time world champion has won one moto on a Yamaha. You made your point.

As many riders as Kitchen has had to pass, and as many times as he's had to come from behind to get the points he has, I'd say no one is handing Levi anything

You guys are going to say this every week. Did you say it about jett at washougal?

Who crashed out tho?

Hahaha Jett choked having to go head-to-head with Deegan & crashed out! 🤡😭😭

lol Zach goes to Loretta’s beats Phil and kids who are still wet behind the ears and now he’s our best 450 rider? 🤡

Zacho to………Deagan? Y’all supposed to be grown ass men.

So you’re not willing to verify your claim? As I said, it’s weird how guys pull stuff out of their ass and pass it on as fact.

I don't listen to any podcasts. If anything noteworthy is mentioned it will make it to the Vital forum, like Deegan refusing to race unless he's paid. Seems I only see that from guys like herr wolf that have no credibility. Wanting to be paid and refusing to go unless you are paid are two different things.

It’s so weird how guys just pull stuff out of their ass and pass it on as a fact.

You are making it up because he was good to go until he broke his collarbone. He even tried riding after that to see if he could make it.

Wait a minute… this article from last year makes it seem like he was planning on going until the injury: https://racerxonline.com/2025/09/30/haiden-deegan-to-miss-motocross-of-… And this article is the announcement of Team USA 2025, and it includes Deegan. https://www.motorsportsnews.net/2025/08/11/american-motorcyclist-associ… Where did you get that he didn’t want to go?

He's not a rookie he's in his 2nd year....what are you going to say when he's not named ROY....