RIP Cybertruck

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I could get on board with the cyber truck but it’s just so aesthetically un appealing. I took 7 minutes on AI redesigned it…….. why couldn’t they have just done this…..ED5F2531-DDAD-4612-8EE6-50D9D5772355

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disbanded wrote:

I don't do this much, but LOL at anyone who bought that fucking piece of now worthless shit.

Have you seen the values lately? 

disbanded wrote:

Hell to the fuck no, I couldn't care less!

What's with the hate?

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What's with the hate?

It may partially be because you spell your name with a C instead of a K like the rest of folks do that have that  name? Just seems a little… overly trendy. I think most of us here understand why someone like you loves that truck. No offense, C-Den. 

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What's so special about steer-by-wire? Seems as though their would be no feel in the wheel for the road conditions...
...can someone explain (C-Den?)...

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Well there's a lot of "firsts" that the Cybertruck has that will make it's way to other vehicles. So yes, it is has influence on history...

Well there's a lot of "firsts" that the Cybertruck has that will make it's way to other vehicles. So yes, it is has influence on history. You can go by a brand new F150 today but an F150 from 30 years ago does the same thing...

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and that's the beauty of the F-150- proven over time to be the best example of what a real truck should be. 47 years and counting...

and that's the beauty of the F-150- proven over time to be the best example of what a real truck should be. 47 years and counting of #1 truck in sales for a reason. It's not trying to be a status symbol trophy for the Kartrashion crowd.

F150 is years behind the CT. It's not even the best half ton. 

you youngsters born with a cell phone in your hands have no idea or appreciation of what came before your generations. I get early adopters will be front of the line for every new gadget but some of us had great lives before all the technology to "make our lives easier".  Easier than what? I enjoy doing things without any tech doing it for me. It's called living/experiencing real life. I was working in engineering at Nokia when I saw the 1st TV commercials for iPhone unveiling the stupid "there's an app for that" pitch. I just laughed and thought there goes the end of civilization as we know it if people think they have to rely on apps to live their daily lives. Then social media popped up and drove the point home just how right I was 🙄

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What's with the hate?

ShellyMX wrote:
It may partially be because you spell your name with a C instead of a K like the rest of folks do that have that  name...

It may partially be because you spell your name with a C instead of a K like the rest of folks do that have that  name? Just seems a little… overly trendy. I think most of us here understand why someone like you loves that truck. No offense, C-Den. 

I was one of the original "Kadens" before the name blew up. I was born in 95.

It's spelled with a C because all the boys in the fam are spelled with a C, the girls are spelled with a K.

Just the way my parents did it.  

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20 hours ago Edited Date/Time 20 hours ago
moto-moto wrote:

What's so special about steer-by-wire? Seems as though their would be no feel in the wheel for the road conditions...
...can someone explain (C-Den?)...

The main draw is it's a lot easier to drive, you don't have to keep the steering the wheel "round and around" when making turns. Easier to correct also. But there are many advantages and literally no downsides. Once you drive steer by wire you wonder why all the other cars don't have it. Everything else feels archaic.

  • Variable, software-defined steering ratio and feel
    The ratio can change in real time: very quick (often ~150–200° lock-to-lock) at low speeds for easy parking and tight maneuvers with little or no hand-over-hand, and more progressive/stable at highway speeds. Steering weight, feedback, and character can be tuned per drive mode, model, trim, or even individual driver preferences entirely in software—no mechanical hardware changes required.
  • Interior packaging and design freedom
    Eliminating the rigid steering column frees up substantial footwell and dashboard space, improves legroom, and allows freer cockpit layouts, new HMI designs, and even stowable or foldable steering wheels. This is especially useful for higher levels of autonomy.
  • Improved crash safety
    There is no rigid metal column that can be driven into the cabin in a severe frontal impact. The system also increases available crush space and can isolate the driver from certain forces or sudden wheel reactions during collisions or aggressive maneuvers.
  • Weight savings and efficiency
    Removing columns, shafts, and related mechanical parts saves weight (several kilograms in typical implementations). This benefits fuel economy or EV range, and can reduce tire scrub when combined with other chassis systems.
  • Superior ADAS and autonomy integration
    Because the wheels can be controlled independently of the driver’s hands, the system enables seamless interventions such as automatic counter-steering on split-surfaces (shortening braking distances), collision-avoidance maneuvers without the driver fighting the wheel, and better yaw stability in emergency maneuvers. It provides a cleaner path to Level 3+ automated driving, including the ability to retract the steering wheel when the vehicle is fully autonomous.
  • Manufacturing and platform flexibility
    Left-hand-drive and right-hand-drive versions become simpler (fewer unique parts). A single hardware architecture can be shared across models, with brand character, sport vs. comfort tuning, and feature differentiation handled in software. This reduces complexity, inventory, and development time.
  • Comfort and reduced NVH
    Road bumps, vibrations, and noise that normally transmit through a mechanical column are largely isolated. Engineers can still synthesize the desired feedback (including center feel and return forces) when wanted, resulting in a smoother, quieter experience while retaining controllability.
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RDnutz wrote:
and that's the beauty of the F-150- proven over time to be the best example of what a real truck should be. 47 years and counting...

and that's the beauty of the F-150- proven over time to be the best example of what a real truck should be. 47 years and counting of #1 truck in sales for a reason. It's not trying to be a status symbol trophy for the Kartrashion crowd.

F150 is years behind the CT. It's not even the best half ton. 

RDnutz wrote:
you youngsters born with a cell phone in your hands have no idea or appreciation of what came before your generations. I get early adopters will...

you youngsters born with a cell phone in your hands have no idea or appreciation of what came before your generations. I get early adopters will be front of the line for every new gadget but some of us had great lives before all the technology to "make our lives easier".  Easier than what? I enjoy doing things without any tech doing it for me. It's called living/experiencing real life. I was working in engineering at Nokia when I saw the 1st TV commercials for iPhone unveiling the stupid "there's an app for that" pitch. I just laughed and thought there goes the end of civilization as we know it if people think they have to rely on apps to live their daily lives. Then social media popped up and drove the point home just how right I was 🙄

I do appreciate what came before. My first vehicle was a 94 Ford Bronco. After that was a Mini Cooper with a manual transmission. 

Technology not only makes your life easier, but also safer as well. What's wrong with that? 

You can always choose to drive your Tesla if you want. 

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There are so many things wrong with that video. The guy doesn't even know where the charge port is...

There are so many things wrong with that video. 

The guy doesn't even know where the charge port is...

Point being, the remote systems that can lock you out.

And it's not just Tesla. 

All new cars have upgrade apps that you need to subscribe to.

Hence credit card info given.

Another series of monthly bills.

Miss one, and suddenly your car has functions that may shut you down.

 

Or in the case of that video, bar you from charging your car.

And... I doubt he even owned the car.

He was using it to make a point.

 

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Well there's a lot of "firsts" that the Cybertruck has that will make it's way to other vehicles. So yes, it is has influence on history...

Well there's a lot of "firsts" that the Cybertruck has that will make it's way to other vehicles. So yes, it is has influence on history. You can go by a brand new F150 today but an F150 from 30 years ago does the same thing...

You have no clue how trucks actually do work. Zero. Zip. Zilch.

I have a 1993 F150. I have a 2014 F150. I drive new F150s and Silverados of friends all the time.

The gap in what can be done doing actual truck things with a new F150 is staggering compared to my OBS. Even my 2014 is lacking compared to what a brand new F150 can do.

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There are so many things wrong with that video. The guy doesn't even know where the charge port is...

There are so many things wrong with that video. 

The guy doesn't even know where the charge port is...

Point being, the remote systems that can lock you out.And it's not just Tesla. All new cars have upgrade apps that you need to subscribe to.Hence credit...

Point being, the remote systems that can lock you out.

And it's not just Tesla. 

All new cars have upgrade apps that you need to subscribe to.

Hence credit card info given.

Another series of monthly bills.

Miss one, and suddenly your car has functions that may shut you down.

 

Or in the case of that video, bar you from charging your car.

And... I doubt he even owned the car.

He was using it to make a point.

 

Being tethered has its upsides as well. For example, Teslas/Rivians are much harder to steal than a normal vehicle and are more easily recovered. They have the lowest crime rate and thieves know this. 

Subscription services don't bother me at all. You can choose what you want to pay for and can cancel anytime. All I know is the $99/month FSD is the best $99 spent every month. 

And when it's all said and done, you'll save A LOT more $$$ driving an EV (and be kept safer as well at the same time)

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Point being, the remote systems that can lock you out.And it's not just Tesla. All new cars have upgrade apps that you need to subscribe to.Hence credit...

Point being, the remote systems that can lock you out.

And it's not just Tesla. 

All new cars have upgrade apps that you need to subscribe to.

Hence credit card info given.

Another series of monthly bills.

Miss one, and suddenly your car has functions that may shut you down.

 

Or in the case of that video, bar you from charging your car.

And... I doubt he even owned the car.

He was using it to make a point.

 

Hence why my truck is still a 2014 with and won't change. About as new as you can get without all the electronics starting to take over. No app, no connectivity, but still have remote start, keyless entry, heated/cooled seats, and other things that make driving more convenient.

It doesn't have an ECU sending my driving data to an app that my insurance company could potentially also find.

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Point being, the remote systems that can lock you out.And it's not just Tesla. All new cars have upgrade apps that you need to subscribe to.Hence credit...

Point being, the remote systems that can lock you out.

And it's not just Tesla. 

All new cars have upgrade apps that you need to subscribe to.

Hence credit card info given.

Another series of monthly bills.

Miss one, and suddenly your car has functions that may shut you down.

 

Or in the case of that video, bar you from charging your car.

And... I doubt he even owned the car.

He was using it to make a point.

 

Beta480RX wrote:
Hence why my truck is still a 2014 with and won't change. About as new as you can get without all the electronics starting to take...

Hence why my truck is still a 2014 with and won't change. About as new as you can get without all the electronics starting to take over. No app, no connectivity, but still have remote start, keyless entry, heated/cooled seats, and other things that make driving more convenient.

It doesn't have an ECU sending my driving data to an app that my insurance company could potentially also find.

Is the 2026 a better truck than the 2014?

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Is the 2026 a better truck than the 2014?

probably boils down to individual definition of "better"

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It is being discontinued. The thing speaks for itself, tech evangelists aside

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zehn wrote:

It is being discontinued. The thing speaks for itself, tech evangelists aside

Something can be an excellent product and be discontinued at the same time. 

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I drive a Tundra. My only vehicle. Parking lots are already a hassle. For that reason alone, I would never have one.

The CT has 4 wheel steering, steer by wire. 

And it parks itself. Literally.

It might park itself but I wouldn't be able to get out. It's 80 inches wide. Like I said, I have enough trouble with a Tundra.

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Cayden you're going to need these

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zehn wrote:

It is being discontinued. The thing speaks for itself, tech evangelists aside

Something can be an excellent product and be discontinued at the same time. 

Cayden, if you enjoy your truck that’s all that should matter. 

You are sounding like people who don’t share your positive thoughts on the truck are personally insulting you. They’re not, well most aren’t anyway!  

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moto-moto wrote:

What's so special about steer-by-wire? Seems as though their would be no feel in the wheel for the road conditions...
...can someone explain (C-Den?)...

I would not be comfortable driving a vehicle with no direct mechanical connection to the steering or even worse the brakes. As far as feel goes, I don't even like how most electric power assisted steering racks feel, at all. 

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C-Den, are you in the Pacific Northwest by chance?

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moto-moto wrote:

What's so special about steer-by-wire? Seems as though their would be no feel in the wheel for the road conditions...
...can someone explain (C-Den?)...

r_outsider wrote:
I would not be comfortable driving a vehicle with no direct mechanical connection to the steering or even worse the brakes. As far as feel goes...

I would not be comfortable driving a vehicle with no direct mechanical connection to the steering or even worse the brakes. As far as feel goes, I don't even like how most electric power assisted steering racks feel, at all. 

it's a little scary that modern jet aircraft are fly by wire too. Redundant systems in place I would expect, but still...

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moto-moto wrote:

What's so special about steer-by-wire? Seems as though their would be no feel in the wheel for the road conditions...
...can someone explain (C-Den?)...

r_outsider wrote:
I would not be comfortable driving a vehicle with no direct mechanical connection to the steering or even worse the brakes. As far as feel goes...

I would not be comfortable driving a vehicle with no direct mechanical connection to the steering or even worse the brakes. As far as feel goes, I don't even like how most electric power assisted steering racks feel, at all. 

RDnutz wrote:

it's a little scary that modern jet aircraft are fly by wire too. Redundant systems in place I would expect, but still...

and fly by wire has never caused a modern jet to crash!

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r_outsider wrote:
I would not be comfortable driving a vehicle with no direct mechanical connection to the steering or even worse the brakes. As far as feel goes...

I would not be comfortable driving a vehicle with no direct mechanical connection to the steering or even worse the brakes. As far as feel goes, I don't even like how most electric power assisted steering racks feel, at all. 

RDnutz wrote:

it's a little scary that modern jet aircraft are fly by wire too. Redundant systems in place I would expect, but still...

and fly by wire has never caused a modern jet to crash!

Here's a scary thought- aircraft get checked and rechecked on a strict schedule, and failures still happen. When was the last time any of us saw their friends and neighbors and co-workers so much as check their oil and tires? Could they even check an air filter? So they're going to do safety systems checks?

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RDnutz wrote:

it's a little scary that modern jet aircraft are fly by wire too. Redundant systems in place I would expect, but still...

Captain Kim Campbell flew her A-10 back to base after the hydraulics were damaged by enemy fire...
...great story about an aircraft built with control back-ups in place and a cool-headed pilot knowing what to do.
https://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Stories1/001-100/0016_A-10-battl…

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r_outsider wrote:
Here's a scary thought- aircraft get checked and rechecked on a strict schedule, and failures still happen. When was the last time any of us saw...

Here's a scary thought- aircraft get checked and rechecked on a strict schedule, and failures still happen. When was the last time any of us saw their friends and neighbors and co-workers so much as check their oil and tires? Could they even check an air filter? So they're going to do safety systems checks?

Just get the factory ap with a low subscription price of $299/month, and for a limited time you get climate control for only $29 more a month so you can use the ac and defrost in a vehicle you just paid $80k to buy

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