Seven officially defunct

yak651
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Divorce is expensive 

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ShellyMX
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So is letting your home fall into foreclosure and not paying folks back.

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chasetwo79
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10/14/2026 1:24pm

Just because the company shut down doesn't mean James is poor. He may just be tired of supporting a losing business with his profits off other investments. No one knows what he's invested in outside of 7. I'm sure he owns other properties and has an IRA of some kind. 

The people on here pocket watching another man's money are weird 

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stephon
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10/14/2026 2:42pm
chasetwo79 wrote:
Just because the company shut down doesn't mean James is poor. He may just be tired of supporting a losing business with his profits off other...

Just because the company shut down doesn't mean James is poor. He may just be tired of supporting a losing business with his profits off other investments. No one knows what he's invested in outside of 7. I'm sure he owns other properties and has an IRA of some kind. 

The people on here pocket watching another man's money are weird 

I think I understand where you are coming from...

BUT

You claim that "no one" knows what he's invested in outside of 7 AND, at the same time, you definitively state that he owns other properties AND has an IRA.    

Are you pocket watching?

So I'll ask: What other properties does James own and...traditional or Roth?

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10/14/2026 2:57pm
chasetwo79 wrote:
Just because the company shut down doesn't mean James is poor. He may just be tired of supporting a losing business with his profits off other...

Just because the company shut down doesn't mean James is poor. He may just be tired of supporting a losing business with his profits off other investments. No one knows what he's invested in outside of 7. I'm sure he owns other properties and has an IRA of some kind. 

The people on here pocket watching another man's money are weird 

stephon wrote:
I think I understand where you are coming from...BUTYou claim that "no one" knows what he's invested in outside of 7 AND, at the same time...

I think I understand where you are coming from...

BUT

You claim that "no one" knows what he's invested in outside of 7 AND, at the same time, you definitively state that he owns other properties AND has an IRA.    

Are you pocket watching?

So I'll ask: What other properties does James own and...traditional or Roth?

He owns the facility that he has his track, and at least at one point he had that orange grove that he got as a bonus. Obviously he likely has a taxable and/or traditional accounts, he made way too much for a roth unless he went through the trouble of doing a backdoor setup. Now pipe down

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stephon
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10/14/2026 3:43pm
chasetwo79 wrote:
Just because the company shut down doesn't mean James is poor. He may just be tired of supporting a losing business with his profits off other...

Just because the company shut down doesn't mean James is poor. He may just be tired of supporting a losing business with his profits off other investments. No one knows what he's invested in outside of 7. I'm sure he owns other properties and has an IRA of some kind. 

The people on here pocket watching another man's money are weird 

stephon wrote:
I think I understand where you are coming from...BUTYou claim that "no one" knows what he's invested in outside of 7 AND, at the same time...

I think I understand where you are coming from...

BUT

You claim that "no one" knows what he's invested in outside of 7 AND, at the same time, you definitively state that he owns other properties AND has an IRA.    

Are you pocket watching?

So I'll ask: What other properties does James own and...traditional or Roth?

JazzyJJ wrote:
He owns the facility that he has his track, and at least at one point he had that orange grove that he got as a bonus...

He owns the facility that he has his track, and at least at one point he had that orange grove that he got as a bonus. Obviously he likely has a taxable and/or traditional accounts, he made way too much for a roth unless he went through the trouble of doing a backdoor setup. Now pipe down

So...chasetwo79 was right about the pocketwatching.  He got the orange grove as a bonus so, yeah, he did have it "at one point"...  

"Obviously he likely...?"  Are you sure or are you not sure?

Lotta speculation in your paragraph to have your chest way out.  

"Pipe down?"  You're funny, that was a good one.  No.

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JazzyJJ
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10/14/2026 4:39pm
stephon wrote:
I think I understand where you are coming from...BUTYou claim that "no one" knows what he's invested in outside of 7 AND, at the same time...

I think I understand where you are coming from...

BUT

You claim that "no one" knows what he's invested in outside of 7 AND, at the same time, you definitively state that he owns other properties AND has an IRA.    

Are you pocket watching?

So I'll ask: What other properties does James own and...traditional or Roth?

JazzyJJ wrote:
He owns the facility that he has his track, and at least at one point he had that orange grove that he got as a bonus...

He owns the facility that he has his track, and at least at one point he had that orange grove that he got as a bonus. Obviously he likely has a taxable and/or traditional accounts, he made way too much for a roth unless he went through the trouble of doing a backdoor setup. Now pipe down

stephon wrote:
So...chasetwo79 was right about the pocketwatching.  He got the orange grove as a bonus so, yeah, he did have it "at one point"...  "Obviously he likely...?"...

So...chasetwo79 was right about the pocketwatching.  He got the orange grove as a bonus so, yeah, he did have it "at one point"...  

"Obviously he likely...?"  Are you sure or are you not sure?

Lotta speculation in your paragraph to have your chest way out.  

"Pipe down?"  You're funny, that was a good one.  No.

You’re a miserable little man, aren’t ya

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stephon
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JazzyJJ wrote:
He owns the facility that he has his track, and at least at one point he had that orange grove that he got as a bonus...

He owns the facility that he has his track, and at least at one point he had that orange grove that he got as a bonus. Obviously he likely has a taxable and/or traditional accounts, he made way too much for a roth unless he went through the trouble of doing a backdoor setup. Now pipe down

stephon wrote:
So...chasetwo79 was right about the pocketwatching.  He got the orange grove as a bonus so, yeah, he did have it "at one point"...  "Obviously he likely...?"...

So...chasetwo79 was right about the pocketwatching.  He got the orange grove as a bonus so, yeah, he did have it "at one point"...  

"Obviously he likely...?"  Are you sure or are you not sure?

Lotta speculation in your paragraph to have your chest way out.  

"Pipe down?"  You're funny, that was a good one.  No.

JazzyJJ wrote:

You’re a miserable little man, aren’t ya

Pipe down, it’s really not that serious.

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davistld01
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10/15/2026 10:11am
chasetwo79 wrote:

Can we get AXO back? 

How about Sinisalo? 

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chasetwo79
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chasetwo79 wrote:

Can we get AXO back? 

davistld01 wrote:

How about Sinisalo? 

Didn't Mike Kiedrowski rock that mostly? I think Jeremy was in it pre Fox as well but I was young then so may be wrong 

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Rupert X
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10/15/2026 4:14pm

Wow. I remember when 7 was funct. IMG 0807 8.jpeg?VersionId=u8aXTtv3C5WHPEJRqmNSfEy2qqN.ROr

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Rupert X wrote:
Wow. I remember when 7 was funct.

Wow. I remember when 7 was funct. IMG 0807 8.jpeg?VersionId=u8aXTtv3C5WHPEJRqmNSfEy2qqN.ROr

HOF!   HOF!   HOF!   HOF!   HOF!   HOF!   HOF!   HOF!   

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10/15/2026 4:49pm
chasetwo79 wrote:
Just because the company shut down doesn't mean James is poor. He may just be tired of supporting a losing business with his profits off other...

Just because the company shut down doesn't mean James is poor. He may just be tired of supporting a losing business with his profits off other investments. No one knows what he's invested in outside of 7. I'm sure he owns other properties and has an IRA of some kind. 

The people on here pocket watching another man's money are weird 

stephon wrote:
I think I understand where you are coming from...BUTYou claim that "no one" knows what he's invested in outside of 7 AND, at the same time...

I think I understand where you are coming from...

BUT

You claim that "no one" knows what he's invested in outside of 7 AND, at the same time, you definitively state that he owns other properties AND has an IRA.    

Are you pocket watching?

So I'll ask: What other properties does James own and...traditional or Roth?

Who gives a shit. That’s none of our business what he has and doesn’t have. 

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Hohmie
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10/18/2026 7:57am

I just yesterday saw a commercial for 7 gear yesterday .it could have been old that hasn’t been kicked off the web.

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mxaniac wrote:

Do people still buy at dealers?

As big as everyone thinks the internet is, brick and mortar owns apparel. 

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chasetwo79 wrote:

Can we get AXO back? 

davistld01 wrote:

How about Sinisalo? 

chasetwo79 wrote:

Didn't Mike Kiedrowski rock that mostly? I think Jeremy was in it pre Fox as well but I was young then so may be wrong 

Wardy mid 80's.  

10/19/2026 6:53am
davistld01 wrote:

How about Sinisalo? 

chasetwo79 wrote:

Didn't Mike Kiedrowski rock that mostly? I think Jeremy was in it pre Fox as well but I was young then so may be wrong 

dkurtd wrote:

Wardy mid 80's.  

Seen a kid at the races yesterday with white Sinasalo gear. It was badass 

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10/19/2026 8:21am

Can't understand why everyone is so interested in James's money issues. 

This is a huge bummer that folk here have so much time to speculate and / or judge someone else whilst they are having financial challenges.

James was one of the best riders ever and I'm sure it will cut him deep if he had to see this thread.

This is fucking sad guys.

 

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oceantrav
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10/20/2026 6:42am Edited Date/Time 10/20/2026 6:44am
The skinny jeans era is over.  Supertight gear era is over too.   Selling online without dealers is pretty hard too, to actually profit from.  ...

The skinny jeans era is over.  Supertight gear era is over too.   Selling online without dealers is pretty hard too, to actually profit from.   Online shoppers tend to order the closeout 50% off gear, then they wont order if they dont get free shipping… have you seen how much it costs to ship now?  so there no profit from them.  I know someone who started an Amazon store selling gear thru amazon, he said he said he had a few million dollars of sales and only netted maybe $20K from it all.  Look at FXR.  I dont see how they make any money.  If youre wearing FXR right now, did you pay full price for it?  You probably got 50% off.  No one pays fulls price for FXR gear.  If you want to be “sponsored” by FXR just ask them, any noob beginner can get 50% off their gear.  

Very true. My kid use to get 50% off FXR and they didn’t even know who he was.

It’s gotta be hard for any gear company to survive. 

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Just bought a set for keepsake.  

Looking back, I wish I had done that with other gear throughout the years.

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10/20/2026 7:08am
FroDiddy wrote:

Just bought a set for keepsake.  

Looking back, I wish I had done that with other gear throughout the years.

This. 👆 

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Timo
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10/20/2026 7:11am

So many of these riders go down this "I gotta be a business owner", road. Would be way better off putting that money on the market and living off the interest. 

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SHIFTY
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10/20/2026 2:40pm

Anybody ordered anything from No Fear and receive it?  Ordered an overpriced hat for nostalgic reasons, it's been a month and I'm getting some concerning emails back when I ask where my order is.

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crt32
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10/20/2026 2:59pm
SHIFTY wrote:
Anybody ordered anything from No Fear and receive it?  Ordered an overpriced hat for nostalgic reasons, it's been a month and I'm getting some concerning emails...

Anybody ordered anything from No Fear and receive it?  Ordered an overpriced hat for nostalgic reasons, it's been a month and I'm getting some concerning emails back when I ask where my order is.

Canvas gear takes 4-6 weeks to print and ship. 

SHIFTY
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Is canvas making no fear hats?

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10/20/2026 4:20pm Edited Date/Time 10/20/2026 4:21pm
The skinny jeans era is over.  Supertight gear era is over too.   Selling online without dealers is pretty hard too, to actually profit from.  ...

The skinny jeans era is over.  Supertight gear era is over too.   Selling online without dealers is pretty hard too, to actually profit from.   Online shoppers tend to order the closeout 50% off gear, then they wont order if they dont get free shipping… have you seen how much it costs to ship now?  so there no profit from them.  I know someone who started an Amazon store selling gear thru amazon, he said he said he had a few million dollars of sales and only netted maybe $20K from it all.  Look at FXR.  I dont see how they make any money.  If youre wearing FXR right now, did you pay full price for it?  You probably got 50% off.  No one pays fulls price for FXR gear.  If you want to be “sponsored” by FXR just ask them, any noob beginner can get 50% off their gear.  

oceantrav wrote:
Very true. My kid use to get 50% off FXR and they didn’t even know who he was.It’s gotta be hard for any gear company to...

Very true. My kid use to get 50% off FXR and they didn’t even know who he was.

It’s gotta be hard for any gear company to survive. 

That has been stopped. FXR is now distributing through Helmet House and one of their agreements was FXR would cease the 50% off rider contracts.

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jettlover
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10/20/2026 7:02pm
SHIFTY wrote:
Anybody ordered anything from No Fear and receive it?  Ordered an overpriced hat for nostalgic reasons, it's been a month and I'm getting some concerning emails...

Anybody ordered anything from No Fear and receive it?  Ordered an overpriced hat for nostalgic reasons, it's been a month and I'm getting some concerning emails back when I ask where my order is.

Shit. Thanks, I was about to order a hoodie for the same purpose. 

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10/20/2026 8:03pm

How much to buy the whole company?

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