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I hope the injured is ok and that is what really matters.
In regards to the tree being dead or weak, the responsibility lies with someone tying a hammock to it. Unless Mr. Martin specifically said it was Ok to hang a hammock from the tree, then the liability should be nothing. It is no different than someone was climbing a tree and the branch breaks causing a fall.
Horrible all around. Accidents happen everywhere, doesn't help when it occurs at motocross track and brings more scrutiny. Thoughts are with the family.
I don’t have a buddy that got hurt falling out of a hammock. I hope the guy is alright though. 👍
Sorry man, I quoted wrong guy.
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Where on the track did this happen? I saw helicopters circling around at some point during the day. Had no idea it was life flight. I hope the guy is okay
The IP was not utilizing the hammock, he was spectating from the hillside. As far as an update on his condition, he can move his arms but has not gained feeling or movement in his lower extremities. It is unfortunate all around, he loves moto like the rest of us here, was a great rider and owned and operated one of our local tracks for a few years.
Thanks for the update/s. What an awful deal all around, hoping the best for his recovery.
It was in the trees between the collar bone downhill and the finish line jump. To my understanding the injured were on the backside of the hill pictured. Pieces rolled down the side of the hill pictured as well narrowly missing spectators sitting on this side of the hill. Best wishes for the injured.
I'm hoping for the best possible outcome for your buddy, Clem! Hopefully, he will regain the feeling in his lower extremities after the swelling from the accident and surgery subsides.
Its still early, Hope they get all feeling and movement back. Glad to hear his kid is doing ok.
This really sucks to hear. My wife and I drove to Millville from Texas and were just on the other side of the that hill in the wide spectating hill above the finish line jump. We to saw the Heli come in. Was gone less than 30 minutes from then. We didn't know what happened. We only got back Monday so this is the first I'm hearing about what occurred so close to where we were seated. We saw 5 people fall flat on their butts going down the hill next to us where all the rocks and gravel are for the walkway. No one fell going down where the grass is. But I do know that one of the 20 something year olds in front of us that fell was putting down a lot of beer!!
Really hope for a great outcome and healing for your friend.
Hug your kids and tell your family you love them every chance you can - it’s astonishing how fast life can change
One of the silliest ideas I ever heard, but incredibly brilliant at the same time. Lots of down time during a national and it would be sweet to lay back in a hammock and chill with a cold bevvy.
Side note: I'm not a big drinker at sporting events because I'd rather watch the race than stand in the porta john line but last National, I went to was Budds and I had the best beer of the year at that race. Ice cold after standing in the heat all day, it damn near hurt going down in one chug.
Most importantly I hope the guy has a full recovery and Millville doesn't get sued and maybe they give a little better look at potential problems.
My friend and I were standing on the hill watching very close to the incident. We watched the whole thing unfold. It was one of the worst things I’ve witnessed. Thank God he is still alive. It’s easy to get down about the situation he’s in, but remember to keep your heads up because the main thing is that your buddy is still around. In the moment I didn’t think he was alive nor did I think he would survive much longer if he was. Prayers to his son, family, and friends. Please keep updating us and take care of him.
You're completely right. We need to eliminate all access to public spaces and businesses for the disabled! Treating all Americans with respect is what's ruining this country! We need to get back to what made us great: bigotry and discrimination!
(of course, ADA has NOTHING to do with this, but somebody made a joke about ADA, and y'all ran with it. Oh, and if you and your family had a dead tree fall on you at some event you DON'T support, like Disneyland, you'd sue the sh!t out of them. It's motocross, so you think it's OK that a tree fell on someone ELSE... So far, there's no lawsuit, so maybe hold off on the hysteria for now)
First of all you don't know me so do not make assumption that I would sue anyone douchebag. As for the ADA, it has turned into just another bullshit government forced agency-Attorney ambulance chasing breeding ground where the only people it actually benefits are the blood sucking leeches in Lawyer-land. My Dad is a DISABLED veteran who walks with a cane, and he feels the same way.
The ADA is nothing more than just another Government controlling law that has ruined many small businesses to where someone complained about something silly and the Big Government swept in and tried to force huge $$$$$ upgrades to places that could not afford to update their facilities. So take your snide bullshit and shove it up your ass!
And here we go...the sidetracking of another well intended thread.....
Dude, I am disabled and I am telling you to shut the fuck up
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Yes it did and I apologize on my part from taking away focus of the injured involved that was originally mentioned.
If a lawsuit comes out of this, it will be because the injured party's health insurance goes after the track. Not the injured party choice. Kind of like when the aunt sued her nephew over tripping her and breaking her ankle. She had no choice in the matter, but everyone vilified her. You either eat the medical bills, or your insurer sues on your behalf. In this case, with a helicopter and extended hospital stay, it's obvious the injured will not be eating the cost.
I'm in the blue shirt by the tree in this photo trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together like a CSI episode.
That's just lame. It could take 100 years for a dead tree to be any sort of hazard. We have oak trees on the property that we thought were dead for 10 years and then came back. They got burnt to shit during a fire.
I’m the person who was injured. I meant to come back and update this forum, but almost three and a half years have passed, and I never got around to it.
I’ll preface this by saying that everything that follows is alleged. I’m sharing my account of what happened and what I was told afterward, which can be checked through third parties.
This was the first time I had taken my whole family to an outdoor national. We wanted to catch one before school started, and this was the soonest one we could get to. We booked the trip on Monday or Tuesday, flew out Thursday, and attended with my wife, my son, and my two daughters.
We arrived early, visited the pits, and were having a great time. We watched the first two motos from our spectator area. During intermission, my son wanted to walk around. Like a lot of people at nationals, we wanted to check out other areas and find a better view of the start.
We walked down through what I believe was the concession area, underneath one of the step-ups by the big hill, and then up the hill around the left-hander leading into the finish-line jump. From there, we walked slightly up the ridge toward the general admission area overlooking the starting line.
My son turned around and asked me where we wanted to go. That’s the last thing I remember.
I woke up in the ICU roughly a day and a half later, with my wife stroking my hair. I could barely talk. When I could finally get something out, she told me a dead tree had fallen on me.
Getting information from the doctors wasn’t easy, but they told me I had suffered a very serious cervical spinal cord injury and had a long road ahead of me.
It wasn’t until I got home and looked at my MRI and CT scans that I fully understood how serious the injury was. As I understand it, my C6 vertebra had been pushed down and out in front of C7, into my esophagus. I realized how close I might have come to being unable to breathe. My spinal cord had been sheared and torn, and the portion still connected had been severely stretched.
I was left with an ASIA A complete spinal cord injury at the C5 level. I’m paralyzed from my upper chest down.
The biggest thing I’ve learned is not to assume something like this can’t happen to you. In my view, this injury could have been prevented easily by inspecting the property for dead trees and addressing them before bringing 20,000 people onto it. I also saw what appeared to be other dead trees in aerial shots from that event.
I went to a race with my family perfectly healthy. Two months later, I left the Mayo Clinic in a wheelchair and a diaper. We had to prepare our home for my disability, and my wife had to retire to take care of me. Our lives have never been the same.
It’s definitely been difficult, and being disabled is expensive. But we’re making the best of it. I still have kids in high school and one in college, and we’re trying to live as normally as we can.
What left me most disappointed was how preventable I this was. The tree hadn’t been removed, and I was later told that other people knew about its condition but hadn’t reported it. Allegedly, someone had attached a hammock to that tree and had been told to remove it because the tree wasn’t stable.
My son and I happened to walk by at the moment it fell. He was injured too, suffering a concussion and a broken foot. Fortunately, he made a full recovery.
It’s an unfortunate situation, but we’re doing the best we can.
And if there’s one thing I’d leave everyone with, it’s this: thank the people around you, and tell them you love them often. You just never know how quickly life can change.
Praying for you and yours, dude. It sucks that you and your family had to make such huge life changes. Keep on getting after it.
OMG, what a nightmare you've gone thru, I can't even imagine. Hang in there, sounds like you have a great wife and family for support. My problems seem so insignificant now after reading that. Your last sentence really hits home.... Wishing you the best....
Thoughts and prayers my friend. If you ever have questions don’t hesitate, here for anything
Really sorry this happened to you. Prayers for you and your family. 💔
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