El Nino

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Edited Date/Time 9/13/2026 11:50pm

Looks like we're in for an interesting winter.  Ocean water temperatures in the "El Nino" currents are the highest they've been since they've been "accurately" keeping track of it. Since about 1955 from what I've been reading. Lately the tides have been higher than predicted due to a "Marine heat wave", I don't fully understand the nuts and bolts of it but I guess warmer water creates higher than predicted tides. It's sort of explained here

High Tides and Hot Seas: Marine Heatwaves & Their Impacts - Morro Bay National Estuary Program

The beaches are disappearing at an alarming rate all along the Ca. coast. The train service is stopped through San Clemente right now. At Cottons point by the former tricky dick residence what used to be a wide beach with volleyball courts, catamarans and kayaks stored on the beach is now just RR tracks, some boulders and the sea. No sand. No beach. Not even at low tide. 3/4 mile north of there is the beach we've been going to since the mid 70's. It's been slowly getting smaller every year.  The El nino in 2014 (Hurricane Marie ironically) took a large part of the sand away, and what used to be a fun beach break wave turned into basically shore break. As of today the beach is almost gone and it's baseball and softball sized rocks at the waters edge. We go to  different beaches now because.... well that beach sucks now. Shorebreak and rocks doesn't make for a fun filled bathing experience lol. I'm fairly proficient in the ocean but when I went to go for a swim the other night I came home bruised and bloody from dealing with 3-4 foot waves breaking right on shore on rocks. Getting in and out of the water was... challenging at best. The next "King" tides are in late November, if those coincide with a large swell and the waters still warmer then normal the beach erosion will be unprecedented from what we've seen in the past. The storms could make for an epic desert season though. The next few months are going to be interesting weatherwise. EL NINO COTTONS TRAIN FROM SP

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EL NINO COTTONS ROCK CAR 1
Dumping rocks at Cottons 
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Long Beach
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Beach just north of San Clemente pier
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Cottons Point in the 70's. Same beach as the first picture. All the sand is gone.

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lumpy790
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9/14/2026 6:18am

Some still saying that Global warming is just a hoax right?

I do not remember hurricanes happening in the pacific coast before.

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9/14/2026 6:23am
lumpy790 wrote:

Some still saying that Global warming is just a hoax right?

I do not remember hurricanes happening in the pacific coast before.

Higher oil prices will solve that!

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Here’s a before picture of the private beach at Cyprus Shores showing the tables and toys stored on the beach. And 2 pictures of the “Surfliner” commuter train living up to its name. IMG 8143 2.jpeg?VersionId=JjCvLHJ3jkpo00aP3lIMG 8141 4IMG 8142 2

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9/14/2026 7:41am

Change is constant.

I like to watch this guys daily videos but i don't always agree with his blaming global warming for everything view point. He blamed the fires in eastern Washington on climate change when in realty it has always been dry here and we had a lot of arson or unexplained starts to fires, increased population in burn prone areas, etc.

Anyways, he seems to point toward you SW types getting more precipitation this fall/winter which is good right for the reservoirs? Meanwhile us PNW types will be warmer and drier if I understand all his charts and graphs.

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9/14/2026 9:17am

And on the other coast...

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9/14/2026 10:16am

Higher oil prices will solve that!

Do you  EVER have ANYTHING positive to say? 🙄

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9/14/2026 11:06am

Higher oil prices will solve that!

G-man wrote:

Do you  EVER have ANYTHING positive to say? 🙄

Never, when it comes to the United states of America. 

Ever since the dawn of the internet, euro butthurt ran rampant. 

But it's nothing like his aussie diaper rash.

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9/14/2026 5:04pm

We could use moisture in mountain west, this La Niña hasn’t treated us well the past few years. Maybe El Niño gets us some relief 

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Dudley wrote:

We could use moisture in mountain west, this La Niña hasn’t treated us well the past few years. Maybe El Niño gets us some relief 

Yeah the El Nina years are dry out here too. How about we just have an El Normal year once in awhile 😛

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9/14/2026 6:23pm

Higher oil prices will solve that!

G-man wrote:

Do you  EVER have ANYTHING positive to say? 🙄

Do I need to hold up a sarcasm sign?

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9/14/2026 6:30pm
lumpy790 wrote:

Some still saying that Global warming is just a hoax right?

I do not remember hurricanes happening in the pacific coast before.

it's been greatly exaggerated and packaged as a way to ensure control of the global population by a few powerful people. The International Climate Committee recently provided an update and correction to their prediction of catastrophe if we missed their target of not reaching +1.5 C degrees by a certain date. Well, it has in fact been exceeded and we're still here carrying on as usual.

There's a very simple solution if the real goal is to lower global temperatures and hopefully stabilize violent seasonal weather swings: refocus the efforts on a voluntary goal of reducing the global population by 50%- NOT by mass abortions, sterilizations or other unpalatable means. 1/2 the population = 1/2 the pollution and other things blamed on Climate Change. Recognize what is happening in most of the oldest civilizations like Japan, Europe and the US where graying of the populations are naturally reducing due to lower childbirths than decades ago. If left to nature the population will right size itself and we need an unfiltered unbiased comprehensive global inventory of "Carrying Capacity" of available food and water to sustain a reduced global population and make that the goal. No need for Paris accord BS, this situation will resolve itself over time if we don't interfere. We also need to shut down the philosophy of endless breeding being promoted by Elon Musk and others because that is making thing worse.

And in the US we can start with eliminating child tax credits for having kids. The message should not be a reward for overbreeding but push for responsible family planning with no government perks for too many kids. Stop all the SNAP and school meal and other subsidies for not providing for your own kids. Only have as many as you can afford to provide for on your own- or just stop. 

 

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9/14/2026 6:32pm
Dudley wrote:

We could use moisture in mountain west, this La Niña hasn’t treated us well the past few years. Maybe El Niño gets us some relief 

look at the Farmers Almanac and other sources and you will see a wetter Winter coming your way from changes in jet streams

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9/14/2026 7:42pm
Dudley wrote:

We could use moisture in mountain west, this La Niña hasn’t treated us well the past few years. Maybe El Niño gets us some relief 

sumdood wrote:

Yeah the El Nina years are dry out here too. How about we just have an El Normal year once in awhile 😛

😂 I can buy that. Someone could have stolen my snowblower 2 years ago and I wouldn’t have noticed 

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9/14/2026 7:53pm Edited Date/Time 9/14/2026 7:53pm

I don't share your love for the beach (at least not as much,) but I am 100% on board for the epic desert season. Go, Nino!

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9/14/2026 7:59pm
lumpy790 wrote:

Some still saying that Global warming is just a hoax right?

I do not remember hurricanes happening in the pacific coast before.

Hurricanes in the Pacific and Atlantic every summer.

Do you live under a rock, or just can't read? 

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Falcon wrote:

I don't share your love for the beach (at least not as much,) but I am 100% on board for the epic desert season. Go, Nino!

mmmmmm..... chocolate...

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We've had too much of a good thing before though 😛The camper was never the same after this trip lol

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9/15/2026 10:32am Edited Date/Time 9/15/2026 10:34am

I'm all for a wet winter season. Bring it on, the Arizona desert definitely could use some and the riding conditions will be epic like it was many moons ago in Big Bear with my ol girl......😜1000018263.jpg?VersionId=Pm3 4EucLIrIq6hZSFfuspFn.M Qxc

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9/15/2026 11:47am
lumpy790 wrote:

Some still saying that Global warming is just a hoax right?

I do not remember hurricanes happening in the pacific coast before.

Hurricanes in the Pacific and Atlantic every summer.

Do you live under a rock, or just can't read? 

asswipe  Yes I can read and even spell words. Guess I need to study weather on the other side of the country to satisfy you.

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9/15/2026 12:12pm
lumpy790 wrote:

Some still saying that Global warming is just a hoax right?

I do not remember hurricanes happening in the pacific coast before.

Hurricanes in the Pacific and Atlantic every summer.

Do you live under a rock, or just can't read? 

lumpy790 wrote:

asswipe  Yes I can read and even spell words. Guess I need to study weather on the other side of the country to satisfy you.

Climate Change is a concern for you? 

Sell…

All ICE vehicles that you proudly own…

The Huge Assed Motorhome 

The Truck

The SUV

The generator 

All Motos

Etc., etc., etc. …

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9/15/2026 12:21pm
lumpy790 wrote:

Some still saying that Global warming is just a hoax right?

I do not remember hurricanes happening in the pacific coast before.

RDnutz wrote:
it's been greatly exaggerated and packaged as a way to ensure control of the global population by a few powerful people. The International Climate Committee recently...

it's been greatly exaggerated and packaged as a way to ensure control of the global population by a few powerful people. The International Climate Committee recently provided an update and correction to their prediction of catastrophe if we missed their target of not reaching +1.5 C degrees by a certain date. Well, it has in fact been exceeded and we're still here carrying on as usual.

There's a very simple solution if the real goal is to lower global temperatures and hopefully stabilize violent seasonal weather swings: refocus the efforts on a voluntary goal of reducing the global population by 50%- NOT by mass abortions, sterilizations or other unpalatable means. 1/2 the population = 1/2 the pollution and other things blamed on Climate Change. Recognize what is happening in most of the oldest civilizations like Japan, Europe and the US where graying of the populations are naturally reducing due to lower childbirths than decades ago. If left to nature the population will right size itself and we need an unfiltered unbiased comprehensive global inventory of "Carrying Capacity" of available food and water to sustain a reduced global population and make that the goal. No need for Paris accord BS, this situation will resolve itself over time if we don't interfere. We also need to shut down the philosophy of endless breeding being promoted by Elon Musk and others because that is making thing worse.

And in the US we can start with eliminating child tax credits for having kids. The message should not be a reward for overbreeding but push for responsible family planning with no government perks for too many kids. Stop all the SNAP and school meal and other subsidies for not providing for your own kids. Only have as many as you can afford to provide for on your own- or just stop. 

 

Yup, population is an exponential increase. 

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Hurricanes in the Pacific and Atlantic every summer.

Do you live under a rock, or just can't read? 

lumpy790 wrote:

asswipe  Yes I can read and even spell words. Guess I need to study weather on the other side of the country to satisfy you.

TeamGreen wrote:

Climate Change is a concern for you? 

Sell…

All ICE vehicles that you proudly own…

The Huge Assed Motorhome 

The Truck

The SUV

The generator 

All Motos

Etc., etc., etc. …

So we should not be concerned that the world is overheating? …… Ok I will ignore it.

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9/15/2026 5:39pm
lumpy790 wrote:

asswipe  Yes I can read and even spell words. Guess I need to study weather on the other side of the country to satisfy you.

TeamGreen wrote:

Climate Change is a concern for you? 

Sell…

All ICE vehicles that you proudly own…

The Huge Assed Motorhome 

The Truck

The SUV

The generator 

All Motos

Etc., etc., etc. …

lumpy790 wrote:

So we should not be concerned that the world is overheating? …… Ok I will ignore it.

Do you 100% "trust the experts"? That every fire/storm etc was caused by man made global warming?

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9/15/2026 5:54pm
lumpy790 wrote:

asswipe  Yes I can read and even spell words. Guess I need to study weather on the other side of the country to satisfy you.

TeamGreen wrote:

Climate Change is a concern for you? 

Sell…

All ICE vehicles that you proudly own…

The Huge Assed Motorhome 

The Truck

The SUV

The generator 

All Motos

Etc., etc., etc. …

lumpy790 wrote:

So we should not be concerned that the world is overheating? …… Ok I will ignore it.

Pssst…

I did NOT go where you’re going: I made the point via a question and, afterward, stated that you’d do well to get rid of your GROSS CONTRIBUTIONS to the problem.

But, hey, that’s jus’ me.

You’re standing on hypocrite row if you want to go there about this shit.

Don’t talk shit about Global Warming whilst being a Gross Contributor to the Cause and Effect of this thing you claim to champion. 

This fucking place. Some of the absolutely most ignorant masses that spew political phrases while not knowing a fucking thing about The Science.

And, no, I don’t digress.

Next up; we’ll discuss FUCKING CHROMOSOMES! 🤣

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9/15/2026 6:08pm

Do I need to hold up a sarcasm sign?

He’s not wrong. You’re horrible skewed against the USA. Always have been. 

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9/15/2026 6:22pm

Do I need to hold up a sarcasm sign?

ShellyMX wrote:

He’s not wrong. You’re horrible skewed against the USA. Always have been. 

How is making a sarcastic comment about climate change skewed against the USA?

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9/15/2026 6:33pm

Do I need to hold up a sarcasm sign?

ShellyMX wrote:

He’s not wrong. You’re horrible skewed against the USA. Always have been. 

How is making a sarcastic comment about climate change skewed against the USA?

Because 100% of your comments regarding America are 100% sarcastic. You’ve proven this time and time again. I don’t know what is in your bum, Sheila, but you need to kill it.

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9/15/2026 6:35pm

Some good info in this thread. Especially Sandberm's vid. It looks like we are in for a wet winter here in SoCal. I am hoping for lots of rain and snowpack in the Sierras. That's the water that supplies much of California's AG in the central valley. Which supplies 1/4th of the country's food supply. As fucked up as some of you think CA is, you all better hope this works out. 

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