Star in ‘28 - HD or Cole?

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I see Davies’s having a Chad Reed career with several premier class titles. 
 

I don’t see Deegan winning a title on the big bikes. More of a KW career. Lots of podiums but with terrible timing to be going against the Lawrence’s and next year another set of brothers who may be better than the pair he can’t beat now 


If Star can only have one … hands down choice would be Davies 

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8/31/2026 12:57am
I still say deegan starts his own team in the future. His dad did it with the metal mulisha  ,own the company that pays you to...

I still say deegan starts his own team in the future. His dad did it with the metal mulisha  ,own the company that pays you to ride. 

A competitive MX and SX race team is completely different than that pile of crap Metal Mulisha...

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8/31/2026 12:59am
He's way more loved than he is hated, stop it. And I say that as a neutral party. I was at Dilla and Budds. His popularity...

He's way more loved than he is hated, stop it. And I say that as a neutral party. I was at Dilla and Budds. His popularity is off the charts. Even if he's not winning, he's a sponsor dream. They will line up if he has his own private team

yak651 wrote:

For now…what happens in two years or so if he’s still not winning on a regular basis? Will he still be able to draw them in? 

chasetwo79 wrote:
He's going to win races and battle for podiums and chew up TV time for years to come. Competition being such a high level is going...

He's going to win races and battle for podiums and chew up TV time for years to come. Competition being such a high level is going to produce a lot of different winners and champs. It's already doing it now. 

We haven't had a rider win both titles in the same year in the premier class since Eli did it 4 years ago. Since then we've had 5 different guys win premier class titles. When did that happen before? 

We're in for battles on battles between all these boys and it's great to see happen. 

It's mostly because Jett Lawrence is out injured or riding injured. When he's racing and not injured he wins.

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8/31/2026 1:01am
Love2Fly wrote:
Looking at Iron Man, Deegans fastest lap time in Moto 2 was over a second faster than both Lawrence’s fastest lap time… Even with the falls...

Looking at Iron Man, Deegans fastest lap time in Moto 2 was over a second faster than both Lawrence’s fastest lap time… Even with the falls after the holeshots the last couple races, he’s dialing in the starts. The writing is on the wall… It will not be long before Deegan is winning SX and MotoX. That’s what Monster Energy Star Racing bet on with the multi year contract.

By 2028 Deegan will be far beyond Cole Davies ability on the 450.

Cole is a great 250 rider but he’s going to have a major adjustment period moving to the 450. Jett, Hunter, HD, Prado, Coenan… The expectations are going to be sky high for Cole and when he starts getting 7th through 10th place on the 450 I think those would be outstanding results for him as a rookie. 

You're tripping Brian.

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8/31/2026 2:26am
I still say deegan starts his own team in the future. His dad did it with the metal mulisha  ,own the company that pays you to...

I still say deegan starts his own team in the future. His dad did it with the metal mulisha  ,own the company that pays you to ride. 

A competitive MX and SX race team is completely different than that pile of crap Metal Mulisha...

Same business model , I understand you feeling the need to inject your negativity towards the deegans Much like every other thread you post in.

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8/31/2026 7:28am

Cole will be pitting on the backside of the rig in a pop-up tent à la JMart. 😄

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8/31/2026 8:26am
Team403 wrote:

It’s hard to see a world where Cole and HD battle for supremacy at Star.  Who splits?

Cole has been better so far in his career.

Won titles earlier, won them clean, earned the sports respect.,

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8/31/2026 10:18am
JayDeerTay wrote:
Interesting thread as if Haiden and Cole didn't already race each other. Lots can be said either way depending on how much you hate or like Deegan. While...

Interesting thread as if Haiden and Cole didn't already race each other. 

Lots can be said either way depending on how much you hate or like Deegan. 

While people might not think it possible, there is a world were these two are perfect teammates and competitors. 

I would point to Hunter having Jett as a brother and practicing with him as a major factor in his rookie 450 season to what we just saw. I think it would be smart for Star to treat Haiden and Cole in the same way. 

Also, There is a lot of respect between Cole and Deegan. They raced each other hard and while Haiden got the better of him more often, Cole WAS the only challenge Haiden really faced in his last year of 250's. They traded paint, left it on the track and that was the end of it. Shook hands afterwards. 

I think a major negative on the star 450 program right now is there is no one to push Haiden. He is on an island and it takes race weekend to see where he is at. 

 

I find this idea interesting from a sports‑psychology perspective, but I would think typically "ego" makes it unrealistic for a team to have two "top guys" at least for long. I think the Lawrences and Coenens have a competitive advantage because they can work together without tripping over pride too much, likely through trust and a shared identity. Deegan and Davies? Hard to picture either one helping the other if both are contending, even if it can benefit both. It’s basically a Prisoner’s Dilemma or zero‑sum mindset that generally most racers who aren’t related can’t get past. Maybe I'm wrong though...

Star’s setup works really well for the am and pro 250 guys they are basically racing similar competition all week, and it allows the fastest riders to separate themselves. But yeah, it probably didn’t do Deegan any favors doing gate drops with most of the 250 guys in the middle of the week.   
But it did seem like Webb was around him, maybe even helping with setup before Chiz showed up recently and losing J‑Coop probably hurt, too. Maybe Chase ends up at Star and we get a little preview of how that dynamic can actually work.

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8/31/2026 10:53am

Deegan will be on his own team in 2028. 

gt80rider wrote:

If he was winning, that would be easy.... but being a 3-6 place guy who is mostly hated, not so easy... 

Hated or not, the amount of buzz that kid gets at the races is insane. Longest line in the pits by far, I saw more 38...

Hated or not, the amount of buzz that kid gets at the races is insane. Longest line in the pits by far, I saw more 38 merch and hats than anything else at southwick. Sponsors like to sell, and that family is the perfect vessel for it. 

This is only a thing when you're winning, or look like you're going to win.  27' is a really big year for him and his camp.

 

8/31/2026 11:10am
I don't think it will be an issue- I think Deegan won't win a race in 2027 & begin blaming the bike. He'll be looking for another brand to take him to that next level.
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