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looplabmx wrote:
How many of the 250 kids would crack the top 10 in the 450s? (I know I'm getting way ahead of myself here just curious what...

How many of the 250 kids would crack the top 10 in the 450s? (I know I'm getting way ahead of myself here just curious what you guys think). 

Davies, Shimoda, Kitchen.

I really think the 450 could fit Drew Adams much better, obviously he won't get a 450 ride without 250 results, but the dude seems way too big for the 250, just like Marchbanks. I hope we don't see Adams in the 250 class for the next 7-8 years. 

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8/15/2026 2:57pm
looplabmx wrote:
How many of the 250 kids would crack the top 10 in the 450s? (I know I'm getting way ahead of myself here just curious what...

How many of the 250 kids would crack the top 10 in the 450s? (I know I'm getting way ahead of myself here just curious what you guys think). 

If Fineis and Marchbanks (Riders who never won a moto or overall) can get a top 5, I'm more than confident, Shimoda, Kitchen, Hymas, and Davies would easily slot into the battle for 4th. They'd be ahead of Marchbanks but behind Deegan and Prado.

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8/15/2026 2:59pm

Hunters crash will show up at some point, lots of ppl had their phones out. Also highsiding at the top of that hill is rough, he got yeeted to the bottom of the hill

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D.K.O.N. wrote:

It is so fucking weird to incorporate politics to define someone's personality. 

Pop Shmoke wrote:
Its not when you define your own personality by politics. Theres a lot of that going on lately, wish we could go back to before. I...

Its not when you define your own personality by politics. Theres a lot of that going on lately, wish we could go back to before. I dont know that guy or anything about him, but we all know ppl who make politics their whole identity. 

I really didn't want to introduce politics into this discussion at all. I was just illustrating the fact most good men employ the belief that, "if...

I really didn't want to introduce politics into this discussion at all. I was just illustrating the fact most good men employ the belief that, "if you fuck with my brother, you just fucked with me." 

My brother and I are almost completely opposites, but you won't talk shit about him in front of me. 

It's probably like that for the Lawrences. 

That's fair, sorry if I misinterpreted your intention. 

I also agree wholeheartedly with the sibling sentiment. 

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The Shop

8/15/2026 3:00pm

This kid loves his big brother and despises the idea of having to compete against him for a championship. 

Compare that to how the Douchebag family behaves. 

It’s really not crazy to love your own brother.  

Agree. My brother is a gay Democrat living in Boston. We couldn't have less in common, culturaly. But if you talked shit about him, you'd get...

Agree. My brother is a gay Democrat living in Boston. We couldn't have less in common, culturaly. But if you talked shit about him, you'd get your ass kicked. Fast. 

That's what brothers do. 

😂 you nailed it.  But for some wild reason on here Jett being concerned about his own brother is like being a war hero 

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8/15/2026 3:03pm
Mavetism wrote:
Davies, Shimoda, Kitchen.I really think the 450 could fit Drew Adams much better, obviously he won't get a 450 ride without 250 results, but the dude...

Davies, Shimoda, Kitchen.

I really think the 450 could fit Drew Adams much better, obviously he won't get a 450 ride without 250 results, but the dude seems way too big for the 250, just like Marchbanks. I hope we don't see Adams in the 250 class for the next 7-8 years. 

I can’t believe it! The person who called me out a few weeks ago for comparing 250s to 450s (when I wasn’t even really doing that) is now…COMPARING 250 RIDERS TO 450 RIDERS! How the turns have tabled. 

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8/15/2026 3:04pm
yak651 wrote:

Who would’ve guessed Prado having more fight in him than Deegs? Not this guy, another 30 second gap??

Gator724 wrote:

Deegs will be much better next year. Need major work on bike setup 

It’s not the bike.

Reed says it is. 

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8/15/2026 3:04pm

This kid loves his big brother and despises the idea of having to compete against him for a championship. 

Compare that to how the Douchebag family behaves. 

It’s really not crazy to love your own brother.  

Agree. My brother is a gay Democrat living in Boston. We couldn't have less in common, culturaly. But if you talked shit about him, you'd get...

Agree. My brother is a gay Democrat living in Boston. We couldn't have less in common, culturaly. But if you talked shit about him, you'd get your ass kicked. Fast. 

That's what brothers do. 

Don Julio is looking for a soulmate if you're brother is available.

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8/15/2026 3:06pm
Mavetism wrote:
Davies, Shimoda, Kitchen.I really think the 450 could fit Drew Adams much better, obviously he won't get a 450 ride without 250 results, but the dude...

Davies, Shimoda, Kitchen.

I really think the 450 could fit Drew Adams much better, obviously he won't get a 450 ride without 250 results, but the dude seems way too big for the 250, just like Marchbanks. I hope we don't see Adams in the 250 class for the next 7-8 years. 

TheMilkman wrote:
I can’t believe it! The person who called me out a few weeks ago for comparing 250s to 450s (when I wasn’t even really doing that)...

I can’t believe it! The person who called me out a few weeks ago for comparing 250s to 450s (when I wasn’t even really doing that) is now…COMPARING 250 RIDERS TO 450 RIDERS! How the turns have tabled. 

Gotta need a screenshot or some context. I don't even remember what I ate two days ago.

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Wo Phat
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8/15/2026 3:08pm
plowboy wrote:

Is that gonna be a penalty for Deegs?

Wo Phat wrote:

it should be

plowboy wrote:

I would say the same no matter who did it.  Consistency AMA.

weird that it wasn't addressed on the broadcast during or after the race.....strange

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8/15/2026 3:08pm Edited Date/Time 8/15/2026 3:12pm

It’s really not crazy to love your own brother.  

Agree. My brother is a gay Democrat living in Boston. We couldn't have less in common, culturaly. But if you talked shit about him, you'd get...

Agree. My brother is a gay Democrat living in Boston. We couldn't have less in common, culturaly. But if you talked shit about him, you'd get your ass kicked. Fast. 

That's what brothers do. 

Sandusky26 wrote:

Don Julio is looking for a soulmate if you're brother is available.

Say that to my face at Budds Creek next week. I ain't scared. Are you? 

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8/15/2026 3:10pm Edited Date/Time 8/15/2026 3:12pm
looplabmx wrote:
How many of the 250 kids would crack the top 10 in the 450s? (I know I'm getting way ahead of myself here just curious what...

How many of the 250 kids would crack the top 10 in the 450s? (I know I'm getting way ahead of myself here just curious what you guys think). 

Where does Shimoda stack up in current 450 class? We seen his Mxon performance. Makes me believe more riders need to move up like Marchbanks has. 

 

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Fineis battling Beaton for 4th. The field is not deep. But good on them for showing the rest the way around the track! 

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8/15/2026 3:12pm

Words can't describe how steep gravity cavity is. I'm so gutted for Hunter. GUTTED!

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8/15/2026 3:16pm

Did Hunter struggle  to get on his bike due to steepness or was he concussed?

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8/15/2026 3:18pm
Pop Shmoke wrote:
Note the australian kid doesnt just let ppl by like the american kids do and then after levi passed him he thought it was over and...

Note the australian kid doesnt just let ppl by like the american kids do and then after levi passed him he thought it was over and backed off and got passed back. This race was a microcosm of what everyones been talking about since lorettas… We need to change the amateur system its creating kids that settle. 

New Zealand bro

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8/15/2026 3:19pm
Agree. My brother is a gay Democrat living in Boston. We couldn't have less in common, culturaly. But if you talked shit about him, you'd get...

Agree. My brother is a gay Democrat living in Boston. We couldn't have less in common, culturaly. But if you talked shit about him, you'd get your ass kicked. Fast. 

That's what brothers do. 

Sandusky26 wrote:

Don Julio is looking for a soulmate if you're brother is available.

Say that to my face at Budds Creek next week. I ain't scared. Are you? 

Noyce! I'll be at Budds, too. I can't believe this 450 championship just flipped on it's head like this. I wanted Jett to win but not like this. The worst possible spot to go down 

 

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8/15/2026 3:19pm Edited Date/Time 8/15/2026 3:20pm
FerCzD wrote:

Did Hunter struggle  to get on his bike due to steepness or was he concussed?

It's so steep! And then his bars and levers were completely fucked

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Words can't describe how steep gravity cavity is. I'm so gutted for Hunter. GUTTED!

It wasnt gravity cavity it was the section called the wall its 2 turns before the start straight.

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Gator724 wrote:

Deegs will be much better next year. Need major work on bike setup 

It’s not the bike.

Reed says it is. 

Reed says it is. 

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The guy that was never happy with set-up is commenting on set-up, checks out 

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8/15/2026 3:21pm

Words can't describe how steep gravity cavity is. I'm so gutted for Hunter. GUTTED!

Pop Shmoke wrote:

It wasnt gravity cavity it was the section called the wall its 2 turns before the start straight.

Right. Called it the wrong section. Do they call it the screw U or devil's drop? 

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8/15/2026 3:22pm

Words can't describe how steep gravity cavity is. I'm so gutted for Hunter. GUTTED!

Pop Shmoke wrote:

It wasnt gravity cavity it was the section called the wall its 2 turns before the start straight.

Right. Called it the wrong section. Do they call it the screw U or devil's drop? 

“The wall”

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8/15/2026 3:25pm
Pop Shmoke wrote:

It wasnt gravity cavity it was the section called the wall its 2 turns before the start straight.

Right. Called it the wrong section. Do they call it the screw U or devil's drop? 

Pop Shmoke wrote:

“The wall”

Historically it was called the Screw U, but the last few years they sanitized the nickname and started calling it "The Wall".

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8/15/2026 3:26pm

Before his crash I was wondering if something was wrong with Hunter's bike. Jett passed him. Not shocking but Prado gets him, too. Then the next lap he doesn't get back around Prado and Deegan almost seemed like he was closing up on him. 

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8/15/2026 3:28pm
bturner26x wrote:
What a day! That 2nd 450 moto delivered. Jett looked like himself today & his bike looked good. Sucks he got handed the red plate by his...

What a day! That 2nd 450 moto delivered. 

Jett looked like himself today & his bike looked good. Sucks he got handed the red plate by his brother, but it is what it is.  

I hate it for Hunter. First the SX championship & now the MX championship (not over yet). I know he wants it so bad so it looked like he was pushing to hard & for the first time this season, his bike didn’t look as good as it usually does. I wonder if that played a part in his crash? 


I’m pumped that Prado & Deegs are riding good. It looks like Prado has his bike dialed in but Deegan is still struggling w/ setup. Hopefully they can get it dialed. I’d like to see all 4 of them battling. 

I’m just a fan of good racing. The more guys at the front, the better! 

Are you bipolar? Your first comments were misspelled, making fun of a downed rider and full of childish emojis.

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8/15/2026 3:29pm Edited Date/Time 8/15/2026 3:45pm
KYFHO699 wrote:

Jett = Class Act!  First thing he wanted to know was if Hunter was okay.  

Of course a couple dipshits downvote the original post pointing out good human behavior,.  Get a F’ing life losers!  Reexamine your life!

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decano51 wrote:

Where does Shimoda stack up in current 450 class? We seen his Mxon performance. Makes me believe more riders need to move up like Marchbanks has. 

 

After seeing how the 250 championship played out, I genuinely believe Shimoda would've won relatively easily had he not gotten injured. Davies has shown inconsistency at Southwick and Spring Creek and we all know Kitchen can't get a start. Meanwhile Shimoda had gotten top 10 every moto, top 5 the past 6 motos before injury, and Southwick onwards are his best tracks.

We all saw him beat Deegan at Unadilla last year, and his style should fit the 450s better so he realistically couldve been in the battle w/ Prado and maybe even Deegan on occasion (remember last year, Shimoda was not getting waxed by Deegan, they either flip-flopped race wins or Shimoda was 5-10 seconds back, but rarely 30+).

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8/15/2026 3:37pm

Words can't describe how steep gravity cavity is. I'm so gutted for Hunter. GUTTED!

i think that is the old "screw u" turn.....they've moved away from that description a long time ago. call it the wall or something like that

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8/15/2026 3:37pm

0-18 is actually crazy. So is getting a holeshot and getting passed in 3 corners and blowing your load in 1 lap

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