Surprised, no one is sayin, Lucas and Sasha's boss has to be pissed...

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Rad76 wrote:
Do you really think nobody tried before ? KTM, De Carli, his friends, his (French) agent... Sacha rides the same and only way he knows since...

Do you really think nobody tried before ? KTM, De Carli, his friends, his (French) agent... Sacha rides the same and only way he knows since the beginning. He was already the same on 85. The guy just does not accept losing and doesn't even get why everyone is tripping over this. I understand Americans are not used to it yet, but it was just a standard Sacha day saturday, except he avoids injuries most of the time. Sacha has more heart than pretty much everybody in the field. 

The problem is,till now,he has not won one title,not in EMX nor MX2.With his recent injury,i doubt he will win this year.

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For Sacha I saw him jump into a hole and g-out - can't rule out a shock problem, but it was sketchy from lap 1. He...

For Sacha I saw him jump into a hole and g-out - can't rule out a shock problem, but it was sketchy from lap 1. He really out to wear the Magoo butt-patch because he is a clone; fast as hell between crashes. 

"Fast as hell between crashes."

Bahaha!! Funniest thing I've read all day. 🤣

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TalinH112 wrote:
JF953 wrote:

Watch the the clip from the actual race, full panic rev in the air, not locked up like Weege says!

TalinH112 wrote:
I am not going off what Weege said, Lucas most certainly did not hit a soft spot. I am not some insider or anything but from...

I am not going off what Weege said, Lucas most certainly did not hit a soft spot. I am not some insider or anything but from what I see with my eyes there is no G-out that kicked him into an endo. Which leaves one explanation. 

Well, I don't think Weege made it up that Ian told him this...  But that definitely puts us squarely where we were on the Chase thing at Thunder Valley.  Are we saying it could have been rider error in one of the situations, but not the other?  Both bikes seem to have been ok after the event based on current info...

It's just wild to me.

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Sacha might have made more money for himself with that performance in future money here in America than he will winning that MX2 championship. Bargaining power in...

Sacha might have made more money for himself with that performance in future money here in America than he will winning that MX2 championship. 

Bargaining power in his future US MX deal, he smoked the field he will be racing. Gear companies will throw more money at him because he can win and people over here already love him.

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JT eluded to this on the Pulp post race show--seems like the bidding wars have already begun, and Fly wouldn't have the budget next year to...

JT eluded to this on the Pulp post race show--seems like the bidding wars have already begun, and Fly wouldn't have the budget next year to keep them. So, I think you're spot on.

They’re already signed to wear Alpinestars. 

I’m not surprised but at the same time, I thought Fly would figure something out as they’ve been growing the caliber of riders on their roster the last few years. 

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JF953 wrote:

Watch the the clip from the actual race, full panic rev in the air, not locked up like Weege says!

TalinH112 wrote:
I am not going off what Weege said, Lucas most certainly did not hit a soft spot. I am not some insider or anything but from...

I am not going off what Weege said, Lucas most certainly did not hit a soft spot. I am not some insider or anything but from what I see with my eyes there is no G-out that kicked him into an endo. Which leaves one explanation. 

Press516 wrote:
Well, I don't think Weege made it up that Ian told him this...  But that definitely puts us squarely where we were on the Chase thing...

Well, I don't think Weege made it up that Ian told him this...  But that definitely puts us squarely where we were on the Chase thing at Thunder Valley.  Are we saying it could have been rider error in one of the situations, but not the other?  Both bikes seem to have been ok after the event based on current info...

It's just wild to me.

I am not sure, just seems peculiar to me that two of the best riders in the world would go over the bars without motorcycle input not being what they expected. 🤷🏻 

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TalinH112 wrote:
I am not going off what Weege said, Lucas most certainly did not hit a soft spot. I am not some insider or anything but from...

I am not going off what Weege said, Lucas most certainly did not hit a soft spot. I am not some insider or anything but from what I see with my eyes there is no G-out that kicked him into an endo. Which leaves one explanation. 

Press516 wrote:
Well, I don't think Weege made it up that Ian told him this...  But that definitely puts us squarely where we were on the Chase thing...

Well, I don't think Weege made it up that Ian told him this...  But that definitely puts us squarely where we were on the Chase thing at Thunder Valley.  Are we saying it could have been rider error in one of the situations, but not the other?  Both bikes seem to have been ok after the event based on current info...

It's just wild to me.

TalinH112 wrote:
I am not sure, just seems peculiar to me that two of the best riders in the world would go over the bars without motorcycle input...

I am not sure, just seems peculiar to me that two of the best riders in the world would go over the bars without motorcycle input not being what they expected. 🤷🏻 

Yes, its crazy...  With Chase, we know he rode his bike back.  With a torn ACL none the less.  Lucas didn't ride his back, but it sounds like he rung his bell and chose not to, so that was potentially misleading that he didn't ride his bike back, if what Ian said is true.

Obviously, there are other scenarios in both situations and while they looked similar, could have been polar opposites in actuality.

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Press516 wrote:
Yes, its crazy...  With Chase, we know he rode his bike back.  With a torn ACL none the less.  Lucas didn't ride his back, but it...

Yes, its crazy...  With Chase, we know he rode his bike back.  With a torn ACL none the less.  Lucas didn't ride his back, but it sounds like he rung his bell and chose not to, so that was potentially misleading that he didn't ride his bike back, if what Ian said is true.

Obviously, there are other scenarios in both situations and while they looked similar, could have been polar opposites in actuality.

Could it be rear shock fade? That would do it. 

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7/16/2026 11:35am Edited Date/Time 7/16/2026 11:37am
Press516 wrote:
Yes, its crazy...  With Chase, we know he rode his bike back.  With a torn ACL none the less.  Lucas didn't ride his back, but it...

Yes, its crazy...  With Chase, we know he rode his bike back.  With a torn ACL none the less.  Lucas didn't ride his back, but it sounds like he rung his bell and chose not to, so that was potentially misleading that he didn't ride his bike back, if what Ian said is true.

Obviously, there are other scenarios in both situations and while they looked similar, could have been polar opposites in actuality.

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Could it be rear shock fade? That would do it. 

I thought it was a false neutral. That’s why it was panic revved and no rear wheel spinning. G-ed out before, false neutral and went off the roller in neutral over the bars. 

I should add: those boys can ride and made the day so fun to watch! Can’t wait to have them racing every weekend over here. Will be some fireworks. 

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7/16/2026 1:31pm Edited Date/Time 7/16/2026 1:36pm
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I thought it was a false neutral. That’s why it was panic revved and no rear wheel spinning. G-ed out before, false neutral and went off...

I thought it was a false neutral. That’s why it was panic revved and no rear wheel spinning. G-ed out before, false neutral and went off the roller in neutral over the bars. 

I should add: those boys can ride and made the day so fun to watch! Can’t wait to have them racing every weekend over here. Will be some fireworks. 

A false neutral is a very rare occurrence when the bike is more than likely in 3-4th gear, especially with a supposed custom transmission. 
I guess anything can happen. 
I did not see or hear a panic rev. To me it looks like the shock went straight to bottom which to a surprise to the rider will throw his body forward.  
At the speeds these freaks are going, it doesnt take much more than a millionth of a stutter with the bike to cause catastrophic situations.  

Also, in all fairness, it could simply be a miscalculation by the rider also. 

 

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TalinH112 wrote:

All I can say is that those brothers are going to be a problem when they get here next year. 

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Both of the brothers were fun to watch this weekend. The speed out of both of them is super impressive, hope we get to see them...

Both of the brothers were fun to watch this weekend. The speed out of both of them is super impressive, hope we get to see them in the outdoor natiionals next year. I however also hope that Sacha especially, but both really, do not race supercross. I don't see how Sacha will survive a season of supercross, it's a completely different animal that does not support Sacha's style of riding longterm. I would hate to see either of the brothers careers curtailed due to trying to race supercross. 

I don’t think will survive an outdoor season in the US, unless he starts riding smarter.

Well the MXGP season has already gone 11 rounds and he’s leading the points…

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Millville would’ve been a much better track for them, but obviously didn’t work for their schedule.

Easy to say in hindsight.  They are good everywhere but they excel in sand.  Why would any track other than Southwick be preferred?

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No one's taking KTM's words seriously that nothing was wrong with Lucas's bike are they?

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No one's taking KTM's words seriously that nothing was wrong with Lucas's bike are they?

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CPR wrote:

No one's taking KTM's words seriously that nothing was wrong with Lucas's bike are they?

Simple question, why would KTM say that?  

I did just rewatch the crash and he staggers a bit when he stands up, confirming to me that he rung his bell.

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CPR wrote:

No one's taking KTM's words seriously that nothing was wrong with Lucas's bike are they?

Press516 wrote:
Simple question, why would KTM say that?  I did just rewatch the crash and he staggers a bit when he stands up, confirming to me that...

Simple question, why would KTM say that?  

I did just rewatch the crash and he staggers a bit when he stands up, confirming to me that he rung his bell.

My answer is optics. KTM is in a pretty fragile spot as a company, one miss step like a world champion hopeful’s motorcycle letting go and potentially derailing his aspirations is not a good look. But as I have stated before I don’t know. 

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7/17/2026 3:53am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2026 3:54am
CPR wrote:

No one's taking KTM's words seriously that nothing was wrong with Lucas's bike are they?

Press516 wrote:
Simple question, why would KTM say that?  I did just rewatch the crash and he staggers a bit when he stands up, confirming to me that...

Simple question, why would KTM say that?  

I did just rewatch the crash and he staggers a bit when he stands up, confirming to me that he rung his bell.

KTM said nothing was wrong with Prado's bike when it clearly failed on TV during High Point 1st moto I believe?

Also, on the post race itw Lucas gave here (https://www.vitalmx.com/features/post-race-interviews-2026-southwick) when asked about the crash he said "I can't go into details" so to me it sounds like it's a bike issue and they wanna burry this.

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CPR wrote:

No one's taking KTM's words seriously that nothing was wrong with Lucas's bike are they?

Press516 wrote:
Simple question, why would KTM say that?  I did just rewatch the crash and he staggers a bit when he stands up, confirming to me that...

Simple question, why would KTM say that?  

I did just rewatch the crash and he staggers a bit when he stands up, confirming to me that he rung his bell.

Airmk wrote:
KTM said nothing was wrong with Prado's bike when it clearly failed on TV during High Point 1st moto I believe?Also, on the post race itw...

KTM said nothing was wrong with Prado's bike when it clearly failed on TV during High Point 1st moto I believe?

Also, on the post race itw Lucas gave here (https://www.vitalmx.com/features/post-race-interviews-2026-southwick) when asked about the crash he said "I can't go into details" so to me it sounds like it's a bike issue and they wanna burry this.

Ian Harrison told Lewis Phillips in the post-race interview that the engine broke for Prado. Go back and listen, because your info is incorrect.

 

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CPR wrote:

No one's taking KTM's words seriously that nothing was wrong with Lucas's bike are they?

Press516 wrote:
Simple question, why would KTM say that?  I did just rewatch the crash and he staggers a bit when he stands up, confirming to me that...

Simple question, why would KTM say that?  

I did just rewatch the crash and he staggers a bit when he stands up, confirming to me that he rung his bell.

Airmk wrote:
KTM said nothing was wrong with Prado's bike when it clearly failed on TV during High Point 1st moto I believe?Also, on the post race itw...

KTM said nothing was wrong with Prado's bike when it clearly failed on TV during High Point 1st moto I believe?

Also, on the post race itw Lucas gave here (https://www.vitalmx.com/features/post-race-interviews-2026-southwick) when asked about the crash he said "I can't go into details" so to me it sounds like it's a bike issue and they wanna burry this.

If Lucas had simply made a riding mistake, you think he would have just said so? Or that he just crashed, and not sure what he did wrong. That would have been an easy way for him to say it was not the bike's fault, but he didn't do that.

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CPR wrote:

No one's taking KTM's words seriously that nothing was wrong with Lucas's bike are they?

Press516 wrote:
Simple question, why would KTM say that?  I did just rewatch the crash and he staggers a bit when he stands up, confirming to me that...

Simple question, why would KTM say that?  

I did just rewatch the crash and he staggers a bit when he stands up, confirming to me that he rung his bell.

TalinH112 wrote:
My answer is optics. KTM is in a pretty fragile spot as a company, one miss step like a world champion hopeful’s motorcycle letting go and...

My answer is optics. KTM is in a pretty fragile spot as a company, one miss step like a world champion hopeful’s motorcycle letting go and potentially derailing his aspirations is not a good look. But as I have stated before I don’t know. 

I get the possibility of optics...  But letting it go and saying nothing isn't that painful to the optics, versus basically throwing your future cash cow and the face of your brand under the bus.

I don't know what happened, but it's just weird to me...

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F1 drivers don't seem to care too much when things are going wrong. They'll straight up tell their strategists they're doing it wrong, or bitch about the car.

I'm going to guess that there are more eyes on that than a motorbike meeting.

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Press516 wrote:
Simple question, why would KTM say that?  I did just rewatch the crash and he staggers a bit when he stands up, confirming to me that...

Simple question, why would KTM say that?  

I did just rewatch the crash and he staggers a bit when he stands up, confirming to me that he rung his bell.

TalinH112 wrote:
My answer is optics. KTM is in a pretty fragile spot as a company, one miss step like a world champion hopeful’s motorcycle letting go and...

My answer is optics. KTM is in a pretty fragile spot as a company, one miss step like a world champion hopeful’s motorcycle letting go and potentially derailing his aspirations is not a good look. But as I have stated before I don’t know. 

Press516 wrote:
I get the possibility of optics...  But letting it go and saying nothing isn't that painful to the optics, versus basically throwing your future cash cow...

I get the possibility of optics...  But letting it go and saying nothing isn't that painful to the optics, versus basically throwing your future cash cow and the face of your brand under the bus.

I don't know what happened, but it's just weird to me...

Who knows man, I am saying it was the bike. Whether it cut out or let go I’m not sure but it just seems awful fishy. Again this is all just speculation and we probably won’t ever know, kinda like Davi’s Locker. 😆

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TalinH112 wrote:
My answer is optics. KTM is in a pretty fragile spot as a company, one miss step like a world champion hopeful’s motorcycle letting go and...

My answer is optics. KTM is in a pretty fragile spot as a company, one miss step like a world champion hopeful’s motorcycle letting go and potentially derailing his aspirations is not a good look. But as I have stated before I don’t know. 

Press516 wrote:
I get the possibility of optics...  But letting it go and saying nothing isn't that painful to the optics, versus basically throwing your future cash cow...

I get the possibility of optics...  But letting it go and saying nothing isn't that painful to the optics, versus basically throwing your future cash cow and the face of your brand under the bus.

I don't know what happened, but it's just weird to me...

TalinH112 wrote:
Who knows man, I am saying it was the bike. Whether it cut out or let go I’m not sure but it just seems awful fishy...

Who knows man, I am saying it was the bike. Whether it cut out or let go I’m not sure but it just seems awful fishy. Again this is all just speculation and we probably won’t ever know, kinda like Davi’s Locker. 😆

True that...

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