How does this thing in Iran end?

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Chance1216 wrote:

Naval deployments are being extended. First hand info. 

10+ months is become the standard. And it’s killing retention.  The DoD touted hitting recruiting quotas early but not mentioning the numbers leaving the service.  A fresh boot camp graduate doesn’t have much value unless led by capable individuals. And those people see life outside the military as very compelling. 

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ns503 wrote:

I don't see any end to this, that could be called any kind of satisfactory, as long as the current POTUS, is still POTUS. 

As long as there is a profit from it, it will continue. 

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7/14/2026 8:03am
ns503 wrote:

I don't see any end to this, that could be called any kind of satisfactory, as long as the current POTUS, is still POTUS. 

What a mess .🤦‍♂️

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7/14/2026 8:42am Edited Date/Time 7/14/2026 8:42am
ns503 wrote:

I don't see any end to this, that could be called any kind of satisfactory, as long as the current POTUS, is still POTUS. 

What a mess .🤦‍♂️

You’re almost there Kenny. 

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7/14/2026 8:45am
ns503 wrote:

I don't see any end to this, that could be called any kind of satisfactory, as long as the current POTUS, is still POTUS. 

What a mess .🤦‍♂️

soggy wrote:

You’re almost there Kenny. 

Oh, my opinion isn’t new. I’ve been there for awhile now. 

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7/14/2026 8:47am
Chance1216 wrote:

Naval deployments are being extended. First hand info. 

Yup, the Blockade is back on.

Also, looks like we’re saying that we’ll be securing that straight. 

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I still question, where are the Iranians that are supposedly sick of theocracy and persecutions? We took out their entire leadership and handed them the best opportunity in last 40 years. Instead they mourned. I don’t ever want to see a news article about them complaining to be honest. 

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ns503 wrote:

I don't see any end to this, that could be called any kind of satisfactory, as long as the current POTUS, is still POTUS. 

With a different president, what would be considered a satisfactory ending?

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Dudley wrote:
I still question, where are the Iranians that are supposedly sick of theocracy and persecutions? We took out their entire leadership and handed them the best...

I still question, where are the Iranians that are supposedly sick of theocracy and persecutions? We took out their entire leadership and handed them the best opportunity in last 40 years. Instead they mourned. I don’t ever want to see a news article about them complaining to be honest. 

Afghanistan instantly fell back into Muslim theocracy 5 years ago after almost 20 years of boots on the ground occupation and "nation building", does anyone learn anything ever?

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7/14/2026 10:35am Edited Date/Time 7/14/2026 10:38am
Chance1216 wrote:

Naval deployments are being extended. First hand info. 

TeamGreen wrote:

Yup, the Blockade is back on.

Also, looks like we’re saying that we’ll be securing that straight. 

Ruger (my son)  went from clearing mines to, security. 

7/14/2026 10:35am
borg wrote:
Something I heard over the weekend: Part of the reason for the latest bombings is that Iran took a different view of certain parts of the...

Something I heard over the weekend: Part of the reason for the latest bombings is that Iran took a different view of certain parts of the MOU. Particularly section 5. Iran took that language to mean that they would be in charge of safe passage through the straight during the 60 day period. When ships began taking the Oman route, they took that as violating the agreements and started shooting.

That aside:

Other than invasion or unilateral withdrawal, It's difficult to see an end to this. Even withdrawal doesn't necessarily mean the straight opens up. 

Do some research on global strategic reserves. It may not seem so at the moment, but shit is about to get real.

It can be read that way...

It can be read that way...

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And yet the first thing they did was charge $$s

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7/14/2026 10:47am
ns503 wrote:

I don't see any end to this, that could be called any kind of satisfactory, as long as the current POTUS, is still POTUS. 

Flatliner wrote:

With a different president, what would be considered a satisfactory ending?

With a different President there would never have been a starting, of this war.

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IF its going away why was this added to the bill and signed into law last year???

WASHINGTON -- Young, eligible men will be automatically registered for the military draft pool starting in December as part of a measure tucked into the annual defense policy bill Congress signed into law late last year.

Men ages 18 to 26 must already register for selective service in case a draft is required. The last time a draft was in effect was February 1973, during the Vietnam War.

Automatic registration is already in place in 46 states and territories, according to the Selective Service System's 2024 report. The SSS proposed a rule to the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs late last month to implement the practice nationwide.

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7/14/2026 11:35am
Dudley wrote:
I still question, where are the Iranians that are supposedly sick of theocracy and persecutions? We took out their entire leadership and handed them the best...

I still question, where are the Iranians that are supposedly sick of theocracy and persecutions? We took out their entire leadership and handed them the best opportunity in last 40 years. Instead they mourned. I don’t ever want to see a news article about them complaining to be honest. 

early wrote:
Afghanistan instantly fell back into Muslim theocracy 5 years ago after almost 20 years of boots on the ground occupation and "nation building", does anyone learn...

Afghanistan instantly fell back into Muslim theocracy 5 years ago after almost 20 years of boots on the ground occupation and "nation building", does anyone learn anything ever?

Of course they didnt learn their lesson the forst time they fucked up Afghanistan withdrawal, I mean Iraq. Its the same story over again. Bummer let's Russia take crimea biden let's them got into Ukraine. 

Bummer fucks up the Iraqi withdrawal at an almost unpresidented level only for dementia joe to do the exact same thing with Afghanistan.

From what Ive heard from a couple peole with some first hand knowledge about this is it seems trump has been doing exactly what hes said from the start. 

Irans been tapping us along for years. Always pushing along till the next congress or the next president. What hes said is he doesn't trust them. They never hold their end of a deal, they always this and that and that everytime they fuck up were gonna hit em until it get to the point that there no more reason to negotiate and then he can show the whack jobs here see I tried to negotiate but their animals and need to be treated as such. Hes also has pointed out that hes been rallying the other arab nations. They dont seem to pleased with iran for once.

I hope they turn that place to glass. It would be better 

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Ship or aircraft?

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ns503 wrote:

I don't see any end to this, that could be called any kind of satisfactory, as long as the current POTUS, is still POTUS. 

Flatliner wrote:

With a different president, what would be considered a satisfactory ending?

Well, satisfactory can be different things to different people. IMO, anything less than how  things were before the war started would seem to be unsatisfactory. Or even less than what they were before the last agreement was turfed. It doesn't matter if it's a different president or not - I just don't see that happening under the current one with all the open cans of worms he has going on, along with his narcissistic personality and fear of the appearance of losing.

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7/14/2026 1:21pm Edited Date/Time 7/14/2026 1:33pm
ns503 wrote:

I don't see any end to this, that could be called any kind of satisfactory, as long as the current POTUS, is still POTUS. 

Yea Biden did a much better job.  What was his position "Just dont" 🤣 what a joke

Can someone please foreword this to Iran?

 

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7/14/2026 1:39pm
ns503 wrote:

I don't see any end to this, that could be called any kind of satisfactory, as long as the current POTUS, is still POTUS. 

rbm33 wrote:

Yea Biden did a much better job.  What was his position "Just dont" 🤣 what a joke

Can someone please foreword this to Iran?

 

A response of “yeah, but Biden” is basically an admission of defeat. 

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Dudley wrote:
I still question, where are the Iranians that are supposedly sick of theocracy and persecutions? We took out their entire leadership and handed them the best...

I still question, where are the Iranians that are supposedly sick of theocracy and persecutions? We took out their entire leadership and handed them the best opportunity in last 40 years. Instead they mourned. I don’t ever want to see a news article about them complaining to be honest. 

early wrote:
Afghanistan instantly fell back into Muslim theocracy 5 years ago after almost 20 years of boots on the ground occupation and "nation building", does anyone learn...

Afghanistan instantly fell back into Muslim theocracy 5 years ago after almost 20 years of boots on the ground occupation and "nation building", does anyone learn anything ever?

Of course they didnt learn their lesson the forst time they fucked up Afghanistan withdrawal, I mean Iraq. Its the same story over again. Bummer let's...

Of course they didnt learn their lesson the forst time they fucked up Afghanistan withdrawal, I mean Iraq. Its the same story over again. Bummer let's Russia take crimea biden let's them got into Ukraine. 

Bummer fucks up the Iraqi withdrawal at an almost unpresidented level only for dementia joe to do the exact same thing with Afghanistan.

From what Ive heard from a couple peole with some first hand knowledge about this is it seems trump has been doing exactly what hes said from the start. 

Irans been tapping us along for years. Always pushing along till the next congress or the next president. What hes said is he doesn't trust them. They never hold their end of a deal, they always this and that and that everytime they fuck up were gonna hit em until it get to the point that there no more reason to negotiate and then he can show the whack jobs here see I tried to negotiate but their animals and need to be treated as such. Hes also has pointed out that hes been rallying the other arab nations. They dont seem to pleased with iran for once.

I hope they turn that place to glass. It would be better 

Iran is likely to end with a bad deal too

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7/14/2026 4:22pm
ns503 wrote:

I don't see any end to this, that could be called any kind of satisfactory, as long as the current POTUS, is still POTUS. 

rbm33 wrote:

Yea Biden did a much better job.  What was his position "Just dont" 🤣 what a joke

Can someone please foreword this to Iran?

 

WTF does Biden have to do with this thread topic? 

Oh yeah, it involves Trump. So it's an automatic 'but Biden'. Silly me for forgetting the Trumptard effect...

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4-6 weeks was the touted Qoute , day one...Are we great again Yet ?

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borg wrote:
Something I heard over the weekend: Part of the reason for the latest bombings is that Iran took a different view of certain parts of the...

Something I heard over the weekend: Part of the reason for the latest bombings is that Iran took a different view of certain parts of the MOU. Particularly section 5. Iran took that language to mean that they would be in charge of safe passage through the straight during the 60 day period. When ships began taking the Oman route, they took that as violating the agreements and started shooting.

That aside:

Other than invasion or unilateral withdrawal, It's difficult to see an end to this. Even withdrawal doesn't necessarily mean the straight opens up. 

Do some research on global strategic reserves. It may not seem so at the moment, but shit is about to get real.

It can be read that way...

It can be read that way...

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ToolMaker wrote:

And yet the first thing they did was charge $$s

Iran stopped charging after the MOU was signed.

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It can be read that way...

It can be read that way...

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ToolMaker wrote:

And yet the first thing they did was charge $$s

Iran stopped charging after the MOU was signed.

That's what I understand too. They had people signing shit but that was all. 

7/14/2026 6:06pm
It can be read that way...

It can be read that way...

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ToolMaker wrote:

And yet the first thing they did was charge $$s

Iran stopped charging after the MOU was signed.

You may be right, I thought I read different. This was from 10 days ago

"Iran’s ambassador to China, Abdolreza Rahmani Fazli, announced Tehran’s plans during the World Peace Forum in Beijing on Saturday, claiming that the regime was working in “collaboration and cooperation” with Muscat on “new arrangements” for Hormuz.

 

“As a country where the Hormuz is part of its territorial waters, we will definitely charge service fees,” the official said, denying that such charges were a toll, a notable difference that could decide the legality of Tehran’s move."

7/14/2026 6:08pm
ToolMaker wrote:

And yet the first thing they did was charge $$s

Iran stopped charging after the MOU was signed.

borg wrote:

That's what I understand too. They had people signing shit but that was all. 

The Persian Gulf Strait Authority...

https://www.pgsa.ir/

was making arrangements for ships transiting the Hormuz Strait, as per section 5 of the MOU.

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7/14/2026 6:19pm
ToolMaker wrote:

And yet the first thing they did was charge $$s

Iran stopped charging after the MOU was signed.

ToolMaker wrote:
You may be right, I thought I read different. This was from 10 days ago"Iran’s ambassador to China, Abdolreza Rahmani Fazli, announced Tehran’s plans during the...

You may be right, I thought I read different. This was from 10 days ago

"Iran’s ambassador to China, Abdolreza Rahmani Fazli, announced Tehran’s plans during the World Peace Forum in Beijing on Saturday, claiming that the regime was working in “collaboration and cooperation” with Muscat on “new arrangements” for Hormuz.

 

“As a country where the Hormuz is part of its territorial waters, we will definitely charge service fees,” the official said, denying that such charges were a toll, a notable difference that could decide the legality of Tehran’s move."

Charging ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz would not be unprecedented.

Egypt charges for the Suez Canal, Panama charges for the Panama Canal, Turkey charges for the Bosphorus Strait, and the US/Canada charge for the St Lawrence Seaway.

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Iran stopped charging after the MOU was signed.

borg wrote:

That's what I understand too. They had people signing shit but that was all. 

The Persian Gulf Strait Authority...

https://www.pgsa.ir/

was making arrangements for ships transiting the Hormuz Strait, as per section 5 of the MOU.

When Trump declared the MOU kaput, he also said that we would take over the Straight and run it. We would also charge all ships 20% because we shouldn't have to do it for nothing. 

I don't quite know what to say to that so I will say nothing and do my part to keep the thread from turning to shit.

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7/14/2026 6:47pm Edited Date/Time 7/14/2026 8:09pm
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Here is a CAPTCHA test for ya.

Click any WMD you see in the picture above. If you see none. You may be a bot, or hacked.

Not intended to turn the thread to shit. I also don't want the world to turn to shit.

When life hands you lemons, make lemonade.

Click any lemons you see in the picture above.

Speaking of lemons and governing, something CA gov did right - the lemon law.

Here is a quote I like:

“In a car you’re always in a compartment, and because you’re used to it you don’t realize that through that car window everything you see is just more TV. You’re a passive observer and it is all moving by you boringly in a frame.

On a motorcycle the frame is gone. You’re completely in contact with it all. You’re in the scene, not just watching it anymore, and the sense of presence is overwhelming.”

From the book below. I bet there's some folks here that would enjoy this read. I just finished another 400 page chapter book too, and might be more proud of that than any moto trophy 😂...Saw this one at a used bookshop in Bentonville, AR this past weekend. 

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Who's rippin this weekend?

 

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