#490 VIDEO FOUND!!! Damon Smith....

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Foster576 2/11/2011 10:15am
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Foster576 wrote:
Why cater to novice riders when its suppose to be AMA PRO. If you cant jump everything you shouldnt be out there. Supercross is for PROFESSIONALS...
Why cater to novice riders when its suppose to be AMA PRO. If you cant jump everything you shouldnt be out there. Supercross is for PROFESSIONALS, not novice riders.
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I know that. But see,they gave him a license and now they are stuck with him. Well unless they grow some balls. They could also change...
I know that.
But see,they gave him a license and now they are stuck with him.
Well unless they grow some balls.

They could also change the license rules.
Make it so that if you are sent to 3 D practices your SX license will be revoked for good.
Sure would make some guys think twice about going out there that are not up to standard.
Very true. We all know they dont have balls.
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zookrider62! 2/11/2011 10:34am
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Let's get real- the people posting personal ads and whatnot from this guy in order to publicly ridicule him are not doing it out of a...
Let's get real- the people posting personal ads and whatnot from this guy in order to publicly ridicule him are not doing it out of a sense of concern for rider safety.
You're doing it because it feels good to publicly ridicule someone.
How would posting a thread on Vital making fun of the guy's riding style help in any way? Is a safety official supposed to read it and ban the guy from the track? Maybe he shouldn't be out there. But a public witchhunt on Vital is not the way to handle it.
What is your solution then?
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J.Saunders144 2/11/2011 11:27am
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Sounds like this dude should contact Moto East Mag for sponsorship since they believe he is so worthy of being out there!!!!! I would consider myself a very respectful person, with that said, no way in hell that guy should be out there, if the kid from last week was in a wheel chair I'm sure this would be addressed more properly. Sadly until then no one will probably have enough pressure on them to pull a trigger, really sad in my book.
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moto329 2/11/2011 11:43am
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Watching that guy in practice at Anaheim 2 was scary. He was all over the track, cutting from side to side of the lanes because he had no control over the bike. He definitely should not be out there.

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VEGAS711 2/11/2011 11:47am
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Whats he gonna do? Sue the ama and feld? I looked at his profile and he has had a couple alright finishes here and there. He...
Whats he gonna do? Sue the ama and feld? I looked at his profile and he has had a couple alright finishes here and there. He got 3rd at a loretta lynns qualifier in 450 A which is pretty damn good.
Its one thing to go out to a track like washougal or unadilla and try to qualify, but in supercross dudes like this have no buisness at all being out there. Not even in practice. Its shitty that Austin Howell is sidelined after putting all that work into it because he came up on this dude w/ out knowing he was there. Really shitty.
The dudes skills seem pretty lopsided. It looks as if all he does is practice triples and 15-10 ft rythem sections. And no I'm not talking shit on the dude nor am I a "racist".
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Well actually in this day in age yes I bet he would sue, and he would probably win a good amount of $$$ too.
He wins a law suit and ends up making more money than the privateers and most lites team riders. In the future privateers make even less as the purse goes down, the money to pay the lawsuit hasSad to come from somewhere, right.
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redrider400 2/11/2011 11:56am
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The dude definitely has other motives. There is no way in hell he could watch himself and think that he belongs out there. Then again, when you have your friends saying "beautiful" when you pull a boner air and case the shit out of a jump, who knows, maybe he does think that he belongs.
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RandyS 2/11/2011 12:01pm
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This is what you have to do to get your AMA Pro card. I believe anyone on here could do the same. MX Sports, AMA and Feld probably need to give a serious look at the system. 3rd of 3, 8th of 8, etc. Probably should be the path to getting on a SX track.

http://www.racer-results.net/results/mxsports/2009/AreaRegional/racer.a…
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grover738 2/11/2011 12:24pm
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RandyS wrote:
This is what you have to do to get your AMA Pro card. I believe anyone on here could do the same. MX Sports, AMA and...
This is what you have to do to get your AMA Pro card. I believe anyone on here could do the same. MX Sports, AMA and Feld probably need to give a serious look at the system. 3rd of 3, 8th of 8, etc. Probably should be the path to getting on a SX track.

http://www.racer-results.net/results/mxsports/2009/AreaRegional/racer.a…
I clicked through that link to see his results, since someone earlier in the thread said he had gotten third in an area qualifier for Loretta's. Guess how he got those 3rds? By placing 10th & 11th in one race, and 16th & 17th in the other . I assume all the finishers not listed didn't do the regional?

http://www.racer-results.net/results/mxsports/2009/AreaRegional/results…
http://www.racer-results.net/results/mxsports/2009/AreaRegional/results…

Winning or doing well at Lorettas is awesome, but you can't really tell how fast someone is based on how they did in a regional or especially an area qualifier.

I think his basic problem might be the people he surrounds himself with. If I tried to pull something like he's doing, I'd get so much shit from my buds. I get the feeling his buds don't ride, so nobody by him can tell him what he needs to hear - stop racing supercross, you're a danger to yourself and the other riders. Go pound out a couple of thousand laps on a variety of SX tracks, take lessons, then do AX, if you do well, then do SX.

I've got nothing against the guy. He's in over his head, and like most people in that situation, has no idea. He hucks the triple, so he can do the big jump. He probably thinks the Howell incident was just a freak accident, or was Howell's fault.

As for the AMA, ouch. Embarrassing.
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500guy wrote:
I hear they approached him about this and he flipped out , pulling the race card. Now they don't know what to do because the AMA...
I hear they approached him about this and he flipped out , pulling the race card.

Now they don't know what to do because the AMA ,FIM and FELD have no balls.
Jay...are you serious?
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RandyS wrote:
This is what you have to do to get your AMA Pro card. I believe anyone on here could do the same. MX Sports, AMA and...
This is what you have to do to get your AMA Pro card. I believe anyone on here could do the same. MX Sports, AMA and Feld probably need to give a serious look at the system. 3rd of 3, 8th of 8, etc. Probably should be the path to getting on a SX track.

http://www.racer-results.net/results/mxsports/2009/AreaRegional/racer.a…
Wow and thats even deceiving!

For example, where is says he finished 3rd at New Mexico CC SW - Area Qualifier, thats only because he was 3rd out of guys that paid to try and qualify that day. And the 2 guys behind him DNFed. His actual moto finished were 16th -17th at an AREA Quailifier!


The AMA needs to fix the license situation before more guys get out there and cause the real Pros to get carted off the track
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jeffro503 2/11/2011 12:32pm
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RandyS wrote:
This is what you have to do to get your AMA Pro card. I believe anyone on here could do the same. MX Sports, AMA and...
This is what you have to do to get your AMA Pro card. I believe anyone on here could do the same. MX Sports, AMA and Feld probably need to give a serious look at the system. 3rd of 3, 8th of 8, etc. Probably should be the path to getting on a SX track.

http://www.racer-results.net/results/mxsports/2009/AreaRegional/racer.a…
RCC104 wrote:
Wow and thats even deceiving! For example, where is says he finished 3rd at New Mexico CC SW - Area Qualifier, thats only because he was...
Wow and thats even deceiving!

For example, where is says he finished 3rd at New Mexico CC SW - Area Qualifier, thats only because he was 3rd out of guys that paid to try and qualify that day. And the 2 guys behind him DNFed. His actual moto finished were 16th -17th at an AREA Quailifier!


The AMA needs to fix the license situation before more guys get out there and cause the real Pros to get carted off the track
I'm glad someone finally called bullshit on this. I have seen the same thing happen for LL qualifiers up at Washougal. You get a 40 man gate , but only 5 guys that paid to be able to qualify for the LL thing. If you are one of the guys who paid...and you get 2 - 40th place finishes........you still finished 5th overall , and can now go to LL's.

Damon is probably a really cool guy. In fact , I would say the guy definitely has his head on strait and is a damn good athlete. BUT.....I don't think he has any business being on an SX track! PERIOD!
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500guy 2/11/2011 12:41pm
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I have no problem with how he got there. But When they saw him ride the black flag should have came out and he should have been told he will have to prove himself before given another chance.

This is a big issue , Does the AMA protect riders and their rights or do they protect one rider with Lawyers that shouldn't be there?
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I guess anyone that gets the blue lapped flagg should be then booted off the track once they are not in the race so go home......
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Really?! Ive race many arenacrosses where the promotoer has told people they are a hazzard and not let them race in the pro/expert class if they...
Really?! Ive race many arenacrosses where the promotoer has told people they are a hazzard and not let them race in the pro/expert class if they couldnt do some of the jumps, and thats at a local level AX. That guy trying to race supercross is like trying to race NASCAR in an Astro van. Its not safe at all, for him or the others on the track.
Dude, that analogy is so sick. I have an Astro(V6 yo) that me and Team 27 dialed in years ago. The fool was doing time trials up Lake Hills in my ride. We added new sticker kit, tune up, the works, shit was legit. Look for me at the Daytona Twin 125's qualifying for the 500. Don't stop the sawgger, Astro vans are commin to NASCAR. His initials D.J.S, Dude just sucks. Nuff said.
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Ddavis 2/11/2011 3:18pm
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I think the people backing up this guy, haven't seen him ride in real life.

I've seen privateers go to supercross, double the triples, double through the whoops, and don't qualify for the night show. But this guy doesn't fit that category. Anyone who's seen this guy ride in person will know what i'm talking about when I say this guy should not be allowed on the track. Not because he "rolls the whoops". But the fact he cuts across the track and makes another rider get seriously injured (Howell). I've honestly seen some of the KTM50 SX Challenge kids ride faster than this guy (except for the triples, but honestly the triples aren't a big deal when it comes to riding ability)
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ImTheDude 2/11/2011 3:58pm
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the guy's got guts.
I like him.
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Cody24 2/11/2011 3:59pm
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Ddavis wrote:
I think the people backing up this guy, haven't seen him ride in real life. I've seen privateers go to supercross, double the triples, double through...
I think the people backing up this guy, haven't seen him ride in real life.

I've seen privateers go to supercross, double the triples, double through the whoops, and don't qualify for the night show. But this guy doesn't fit that category. Anyone who's seen this guy ride in person will know what i'm talking about when I say this guy should not be allowed on the track. Not because he "rolls the whoops". But the fact he cuts across the track and makes another rider get seriously injured (Howell). I've honestly seen some of the KTM50 SX Challenge kids ride faster than this guy (except for the triples, but honestly the triples aren't a big deal when it comes to riding ability)
Agreed. Maybe they could put him in the halftime show?

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spd721 2/11/2011 4:02pm
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motoxxx599 wrote:
Did anyone listen to the RacerX Podcast this week? Pingree had a little to say about him during his time down on the track. He said...
Did anyone listen to the RacerX Podcast this week? Pingree had a little to say about him during his time down on the track. He said he went to the Director of the AMA after practice and after he watched Austin Howell get hurt and told him he needed to get this guy off the track. The Director told him to leave it alone, there are some things going on in the background that he wont elaborate on but something about a conversation was had about him on an internet radio show making fun of him or something. Anyone else listen to that podcast?
He said that he couldn't comment on it but it was a political reason to why he wasn't pulled.
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FastEddy 2/11/2011 4:21pm
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motoxxx599 wrote:
Did anyone listen to the RacerX Podcast this week? Pingree had a little to say about him during his time down on the track. He said...
Did anyone listen to the RacerX Podcast this week? Pingree had a little to say about him during his time down on the track. He said he went to the Director of the AMA after practice and after he watched Austin Howell get hurt and told him he needed to get this guy off the track. The Director told him to leave it alone, there are some things going on in the background that he wont elaborate on but something about a conversation was had about him on an internet radio show making fun of him or something. Anyone else listen to that podcast?
spd721 wrote:
He said that he couldn't comment on it but it was a political reason to why he wasn't pulled.
Perhaps they are afraid of a lawsuit.
Perhaps his lawyer sponsors already paid his entry fees for all the West rounds.
Pissing off an ex-pro cross over rider and a few lawyers wouldn't be a smart move by the AMA/FIM/Feld.
Not to mention.....bad mainstream media about the sport.
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To be honest, he just needs to practice a little more before hopping out there. If he builds his corner speed up he would be no...
To be honest, he just needs to practice a little more before hopping out there. If he builds his corner speed up he would be no worse than the other slower riders. The fact he can hit a triple is more than most of you can say.
I need to practice more, doesn't matter if he can hit a triple or not if he is holding people up or obviously not fast enough then he shouldn't be out there. Triples are for fags, me and bubba quad shit
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I just wish he'd picked another number...
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Cheer for Ronnie Mac, and boo Damon J. Smith... You people are a bunch of hypocrites that disgust me! Grinning
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Don't gauge all nor cal racers by this exception!
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wardy wrote:
I guess anyone that gets the blue lapped flagg should be then booted off the track once they are not in the race so go home......
well, in this guy's case if he was on the track with stewart, that would be right after he completed his frist lap. That huge of a gap in speed is dangerous. I view this the same way as if an 85 beginner rider went out for the A/B practice at a local track. All of you who are supporting this guy... what would your opinion be if an 85 rider got killed at an open practice because the track owner let him out with the A class, and he got landed on when he was rolling a large triple? The kid payed his practice fee, he has the right to be there.
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wardy wrote:
I guess anyone that gets the blue lapped flagg should be then booted off the track once they are not in the race so go home......
davis224 wrote:
well, in this guy's case if he was on the track with stewart, that would be right after he completed his frist lap. That huge of...
well, in this guy's case if he was on the track with stewart, that would be right after he completed his frist lap. That huge of a gap in speed is dangerous. I view this the same way as if an 85 beginner rider went out for the A/B practice at a local track. All of you who are supporting this guy... what would your opinion be if an 85 rider got killed at an open practice because the track owner let him out with the A class, and he got landed on when he was rolling a large triple? The kid payed his practice fee, he has the right to be there.
Yeah i agree. There's no way to even compare this guy with the other riders because to even be eligible to be Blue flagged you would need to make the night show. The guys who are making the night show are 20 SECONDS faster than him. There's no comparison. That fact right there proves even more that he shouldn't be out there. He IS a risk to anybody out on the track considering what happened to Austin Howell. Such a bummer when a kid who worked his ass off through the amateur ranks and is actually capable of making a main is injured by having a novice rider out on the track. The AMA needs to get their heads out of their asses and take away this guy's license before something worse happens.
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wardy wrote:
I guess anyone that gets the blue lapped flagg should be then booted off the track once they are not in the race so go home......
davis224 wrote:
well, in this guy's case if he was on the track with stewart, that would be right after he completed his frist lap. That huge of...
well, in this guy's case if he was on the track with stewart, that would be right after he completed his frist lap. That huge of a gap in speed is dangerous. I view this the same way as if an 85 beginner rider went out for the A/B practice at a local track. All of you who are supporting this guy... what would your opinion be if an 85 rider got killed at an open practice because the track owner let him out with the A class, and he got landed on when he was rolling a large triple? The kid payed his practice fee, he has the right to be there.
Well said. That was what I have been wanting to say but couldn't figure out how to word it.
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FIREfish148 2/11/2011 7:41pm
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Ddavis wrote:
I think the people backing up this guy, haven't seen him ride in real life. I've seen privateers go to supercross, double the triples, double through...
I think the people backing up this guy, haven't seen him ride in real life.

I've seen privateers go to supercross, double the triples, double through the whoops, and don't qualify for the night show. But this guy doesn't fit that category. Anyone who's seen this guy ride in person will know what i'm talking about when I say this guy should not be allowed on the track. Not because he "rolls the whoops". But the fact he cuts across the track and makes another rider get seriously injured (Howell). I've honestly seen some of the KTM50 SX Challenge kids ride faster than this guy (except for the triples, but honestly the triples aren't a big deal when it comes to riding ability)
Cody24 wrote:
Agreed. Maybe they could put him in the halftime show?
haha o man thats some funny shit. Im jealous the dude got to ride at LL's that was always a dream of mine since I was like 10.
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wardy wrote:
I guess anyone that gets the blue lapped flagg should be then booted off the track once they are not in the race so go home......
davis224 wrote:
well, in this guy's case if he was on the track with stewart, that would be right after he completed his frist lap. That huge of...
well, in this guy's case if he was on the track with stewart, that would be right after he completed his frist lap. That huge of a gap in speed is dangerous. I view this the same way as if an 85 beginner rider went out for the A/B practice at a local track. All of you who are supporting this guy... what would your opinion be if an 85 rider got killed at an open practice because the track owner let him out with the A class, and he got landed on when he was rolling a large triple? The kid payed his practice fee, he has the right to be there.
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Yeah i agree. There's no way to even compare this guy with the other riders because to even be eligible to be Blue flagged you would...
Yeah i agree. There's no way to even compare this guy with the other riders because to even be eligible to be Blue flagged you would need to make the night show. The guys who are making the night show are 20 SECONDS faster than him. There's no comparison. That fact right there proves even more that he shouldn't be out there. He IS a risk to anybody out on the track considering what happened to Austin Howell. Such a bummer when a kid who worked his ass off through the amateur ranks and is actually capable of making a main is injured by having a novice rider out on the track. The AMA needs to get their heads out of their asses and take away this guy's license before something worse happens.
Exactly! Austen has worked so hard and this ,yes I'm gonna say it,"dip shit that couldn't run with us 40 Intermediates" ends his SX season.We already have seen others almost crash due to this poser. What if someone dies? It's a shame this guy has good physical fitness but no mental fitness. He's like one of these people on American Idol who have NO singing ability but really think they should be on the show..........except that on Idol,no one will get paralyzed or worse! Angry
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I'm not seeing where he crossed into Howell's line. Looks to me like Austin hit a rut. Too bad the guy's hurt and all, but seems like every time a rider crashes they want to blame some other rider.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT7ydC1pgtI

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