Coenens Riding in the US at Fox Raceway | Video

mxxxeR1
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6/10/2026 2:28pm
Mavetism wrote:
Nah, you have no idea. Herlings looks better this season than he did over the past 4-5 seasons on his KTM. Lucas and Herlings gapped 3rd...

Nah, you have no idea. Herlings looks better this season than he did over the past 4-5 seasons on his KTM. Lucas and Herlings gapped 3rd by 30-60 seconds in multiple races. If it weren't for Lucas we would talk about how Herlings looks just like he did in 2018/2021, he is even getting good starts now. Sadly he had to deal with multiple DNFs that were completely out of his hands and despite that he is still 2nd in points.
Also no clue why you're saying 10 years ago, 10 years ago Herlings wasn't even on a 450 yet lol

Also "31 year and clearly takes fewer risks than before..."  yeah NO. Herlings goes out there and is willing to die for wins. Have you seen his Trentino win? Or his Sardegna ride trying to chase Lucas? He looks on the edge, just like he did in 2018 or 2021. He doesn't settle for podiums/2nd places. Current Herlings still dominates the whole field, just like he did back then, except for one guy.

Also Lucas is only 19 and in his 2nd year. That's not even the best we have seen from him yet (hopefully, who knows what it looks like when SX comes into the play).

Does this look like a guy who takes fewer risks? 🤣
 

mxxxeR1 wrote:
Well, ereryone has their own opinion......maybe i have no idea , that's possible, but I've been following herlings since the 65cc......and have seen him in action...

Well, ereryone has their own opinion......maybe i have no idea , that's possible, but I've been following herlings since the 65cc......and have seen him in action real often .....I'm from the netherlands   ..........

Mavetism wrote:
I mean yeah you're from the NL and have a Herlings profile picture on top of that, so you're being biased in your opinion isn't really...

I mean yeah you're from the NL and have a Herlings profile picture on top of that, so you're being biased in your opinion isn't really surprising to me lol

I've also watched pretty much every race of his in the GPs and got the chance to see him ride in person in 2018. Dude is still on it, but wether you want to accept it or not, Lucas is the real deal and Herlings has not slowed down at all. 

I'm not saying lucas coenen isn't the real deal,,,,, nor am I saying herlings is slow,,, i'm just saying the herlings of today  isn't the same as the one from 10 year ago........

 

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Since there’s some Herlings talk in this thread, I saw a video interview on gatedrop.com with Mitch Payton and he was saying he was trying to sign Herlings for the 2011 season, but Herlings was worried about SX and wanted to lock in on Europe. Seeing Herlings on a PC bike in 2011 would’ve been awesome. 

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6/10/2026 3:26pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:

Just watched this. Great content with Malin! There's a badass 23Media vid of the Coenens at Elsinore. Prado too and a rare Sexton sighting at a public track 

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6/10/2026 3:27pm
Sc2 wrote:

If you have not seen Sacha ride in the flesh, hopefully you should be in for a treat, he is fun to watch 

He was visually the fastest 250 rider to me when I was at the MXdN. Can he keep the rubber side down?

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6/10/2026 4:52pm
crusty_xx wrote:
Why does everyone make such a big deal of the elevation? I dont get it, maybe I'm missing something.Except for maybe Tomac none of the top...

Why does everyone make such a big deal of the elevation? I dont get it, maybe I'm missing something.
Except for maybe Tomac none of the top guys lives at elevation, so does anybody have an advantage here? Mxgp races at elevation every year too. Maybe not 5000ft, but over 3000

Everyone gets affected by altitude in different ways and there’s no reliable way of predicting how it will go.

Also the teams have to adapt the engines to the altitude and may not always get it right.

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6/10/2026 5:15pm
davistld01 wrote:

Interesting that Lucas is running the #96 with what appears to be the same font as Hunter Lawrence uses. 

ML512 wrote:

Old Jersey.

Like a real old jersey?! haha but I was wondering about this.. So do they bring gear with them? I would've thought that JT would be pulling out all the stops and have it all ready when they got here.. I get they'd bring their knee braces and shit but the outer layer? 

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6/10/2026 5:20pm
Just watched this. Great content with Malin! There's a badass 23Media vid of the Coenens at Elsinore. Prado too and a rare Sexton sighting at a...

Just watched this. Great content with Malin! There's a badass 23Media vid of the Coenens at Elsinore. Prado too and a rare Sexton sighting at a public track 

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6/10/2026 5:29pm
davistld01 wrote:

Interesting that Lucas is running the #96 with what appears to be the same font as Hunter Lawrence uses. 

ML512 wrote:

Old Jersey.

jemcee wrote:
Like a real old jersey?! haha but I was wondering about this.. So do they bring gear with them? I would've thought that JT would be...

Like a real old jersey?! haha but I was wondering about this.. So do they bring gear with them? I would've thought that JT would be pulling out all the stops and have it all ready when they got here.. I get they'd bring their knee braces and shit but the outer layer? 

It is pretty funny. He's not even 96 in MXGP.anymore. We always picture these guys geting piles of new gear. 

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6/10/2026 5:31pm
Just watched this. Great content with Malin! There's a badass 23Media vid of the Coenens at Elsinore. Prado too and a rare Sexton sighting at a...

Just watched this. Great content with Malin! There's a badass 23Media vid of the Coenens at Elsinore. Prado too and a rare Sexton sighting at a public track 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

You could just be spectating that public practice and it would be amazing

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6/10/2026 6:01pm

Malin is a bad ass! I'm a huge fan of this guy. All class.

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6/10/2026 7:24pm Edited Date/Time 6/10/2026 7:32pm
Hey Pit, one of the twins got hurt in America.Oh no, which moto did it happen in?Moto? Nah, a kid on a 65 cross jumped him...

Hey Pit, one of the twins got hurt in America.

Oh no, which moto did it happen in?

Moto? Nah, a kid on a 65 cross jumped him at Pala during practice. 

I just don't understand. 

Fast Tuesdays at Pala are split sessions. No minis on track when big bikes out

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6/10/2026 7:33pm
Hey Pit, one of the twins got hurt in America.Oh no, which moto did it happen in?Moto? Nah, a kid on a 65 cross jumped him...

Hey Pit, one of the twins got hurt in America.

Oh no, which moto did it happen in?

Moto? Nah, a kid on a 65 cross jumped him at Pala during practice. 

I just don't understand. 

Brent wrote:

Fast Tuesdays at Pala are split sessions. No minis on track when big bikes out

There is literally an 85 on track with them in that video

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6/10/2026 7:35pm
ML512 wrote:

Old Jersey.

jemcee wrote:
Like a real old jersey?! haha but I was wondering about this.. So do they bring gear with them? I would've thought that JT would be...

Like a real old jersey?! haha but I was wondering about this.. So do they bring gear with them? I would've thought that JT would be pulling out all the stops and have it all ready when they got here.. I get they'd bring their knee braces and shit but the outer layer? 

It is pretty funny. He's not even 96 in MXGP.anymore. We always picture these guys geting piles of new gear. 

None of it makes sense haha

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6/10/2026 8:27pm
There is literally an 85 on track with them in that video

There is literally an 85 on track with them in that video

I seen that mini rider on the track also. I was a little disturbed by it.  

6/10/2026 8:39pm
Hey Pit, one of the twins got hurt in America.Oh no, which moto did it happen in?Moto? Nah, a kid on a 65 cross jumped him...

Hey Pit, one of the twins got hurt in America.

Oh no, which moto did it happen in?

Moto? Nah, a kid on a 65 cross jumped him at Pala during practice. 

I just don't understand. 

Brent wrote:

Fast Tuesdays at Pala are split sessions. No minis on track when big bikes out

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6/11/2026 1:13am
crusty_xx wrote:
Why does everyone make such a big deal of the elevation? I dont get it, maybe I'm missing something.Except for maybe Tomac none of the top...

Why does everyone make such a big deal of the elevation? I dont get it, maybe I'm missing something.
Except for maybe Tomac none of the top guys lives at elevation, so does anybody have an advantage here? Mxgp races at elevation every year too. Maybe not 5000ft, but over 3000

ando wrote:
Everyone gets affected by altitude in different ways and there’s no reliable way of predicting how it will go.Also the teams have to adapt the engines...

Everyone gets affected by altitude in different ways and there’s no reliable way of predicting how it will go.

Also the teams have to adapt the engines to the altitude and may not always get it right.

Yeah I guess that makes sense. I just don't think it will affect them considering they race at least 2 GPs at altitude every year and so far it hasn't affected them in the slightest. But Lakewood is a lot higher than the highest GP races.
Bike I can see be a factor for Sacha. KTM is most likely gonna be down on power compared to the blue and green bikes. But then again he's like 50 lbs lighter than the rest of the field. 

6/11/2026 2:02am
Mavetism wrote:
One thing I can say about Lucas.. I've never seen anyone else being able to push a healthy Herlings this hard for wins (because usually he...

One thing I can say about Lucas.. I've never seen anyone else being able to push a healthy Herlings this hard for wins (because usually he isn't beatable when healthy and on). This is as exciting as it gets, can't wait for Southwick specially

I expect Lucas to race smart and I expect Sacha do absolutely die out there for a win 😂

mxxxeR1 wrote:
Nothing against Luca coenen...... Yes, he can beat  the herlings of today, 31 year and clearly takes fewer risks than before.......but whether he would have beaten...

Nothing against Luca coenen...... Yes, he can beat  the herlings of today, 31 year and clearly takes fewer risks than before.......but whether he would have beaten the herlings of 10 years ago as well, nobody knows

10 years ago Herlings was still sandbagging mx2 so he wouldn’t even be racing the 19 year old lol

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6/11/2026 3:00am

Has anybody the laptimes of Prado vs Coenen?

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Bonanza69 wrote:

Has anybody the laptimes of Prado vs Coenen?

“Practice? We talkin about practice?”……

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6/12/2026 12:56pm
crusty_xx wrote:
Why does everyone make such a big deal of the elevation? I dont get it, maybe I'm missing something.Except for maybe Tomac none of the top...

Why does everyone make such a big deal of the elevation? I dont get it, maybe I'm missing something.
Except for maybe Tomac none of the top guys lives at elevation, so does anybody have an advantage here? Mxgp races at elevation every year too. Maybe not 5000ft, but over 3000

ando wrote:
Everyone gets affected by altitude in different ways and there’s no reliable way of predicting how it will go.Also the teams have to adapt the engines...

Everyone gets affected by altitude in different ways and there’s no reliable way of predicting how it will go.

Also the teams have to adapt the engines to the altitude and may not always get it right.

Exactly. I think it has to be experienced. I have zero issues with altitude; my hiking partner (who is in excellent shape) can struggle above 5000 feet - headaches, nausea, dizziness. And it varies - sometimes they're ok at over 12,000 feet, sometimes they're wasted at 8000. Doesn't Jason Anderson sometimes have altitude issues? (And other times he's fine?)

6/13/2026 9:01pm Edited Date/Time 6/13/2026 9:01pm
Going off how Sasha looks in this hard to see him outside the top 3, I hope he gets Prado at least so Prado doesn't blame...

Going off how Sasha looks in this hard to see him outside the top 3, I hope he gets Prado at least so Prado doesn't blame the bike when he realises he can't hang with Jett.

I think you are missing some critical info in your assessment there, guy.

Really?

Come shine my shoes my guy.

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