Roczen is staying!

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1/19/2011 9:35am Edited Date/Time 1/19/2011 9:46am
Great news. As long as he is staying on 2 wheels. It is fun to watch him ride. I have a feeling we'll be hearing his name for years to come.
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1/19/2011 9:53am
I could not be happier!

"Yer my boy Blue! (Ken)"
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1/19/2011 10:17am
SethGator wrote:
anybody have an entry list of riders/teams for MX1/MX2 or a link with the entry list... [img]http://www.dirtbikerider.co.uk/cms_media/images/teamgermany.jpg[/img]
anybody have an entry list of riders/teams for MX1/MX2 or a link with the entry list...

Karma wrote:
Looks like RC in the middle!
I thought Justin Timberlake.
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1/19/2011 11:55am
jo2910 wrote:
The have Herlings to win MX2 next year if Ken gets injured plus KTM needs the exposure after Musquin got injured and all the bashing of...
The have Herlings to win MX2 next year if Ken gets injured plus KTM needs the exposure after Musquin got injured and all the bashing of the 350F.

In the long run the experience will be beneficial next year. He just needs to do like Tomac and be consistent and finish races
I'm gonna disagree with you there as I have Paulin down as next in line if Roczen doesn't pull it offWhistling

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1/19/2011 12:02pm
Sunhouse wrote:
I can´t believe they want to risk an MX2 World title to a dumb ass SX LITES championship. It´s half a championship for Christ´s sake!
its not about an sx lites title, thats a long shot even after just 2 rounds...it about exposure for the bike and gettin the kid more experience
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1/19/2011 12:14pm
Mstock wrote:
Excellent marketing by KTM. More people will be exposed to KTM during the "little lites sx" than the entire GP series. Especially when you add in...
Excellent marketing by KTM. More people will be exposed to KTM during the "little lites sx" than the entire GP series. Especially when you add in all the magazine/website/interviews Ken is doing.
flarider wrote:
Exposed in what light?
Positive or negative?

What looks better...a cartwheeling and wadded KTM or one on the top of the box?
My opinion is "Positive"

Supercross isn't easy to adapt to, for most anyone. There is always a learning curve, and it has to begin at some point..We are only two races in, why people are jumping to conclusions about him probably heading back home just kind of shocks me......I mean, did people really think he was going to come and clean house in his first year in supercross? why would anyone expect that? I dont get it sometimes..
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1/19/2011 12:27pm Edited Date/Time 1/19/2011 3:55pm
PressPassP wrote:
I'm gonna disagree with you there as I have Paulin down as next in line if Roczen doesn't pull it offWhistling
I gotta go with Arnaud Tonus for the title...



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1/19/2011 12:41pm
SethGator wrote:
anybody have an entry list of riders/teams for MX1/MX2 or a link with the entry list... [img]http://www.dirtbikerider.co.uk/cms_media/images/teamgermany.jpg[/img]
anybody have an entry list of riders/teams for MX1/MX2 or a link with the entry list...

Ken and his holidays! lol
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1/19/2011 12:47pm
SethGator wrote:
anybody have an entry list of riders/teams for MX1/MX2 or a link with the entry list... [img]http://www.dirtbikerider.co.uk/cms_media/images/teamgermany.jpg[/img]
anybody have an entry list of riders/teams for MX1/MX2 or a link with the entry list...

Karma wrote:
Looks like RC in the middle!
But it is Max Nagl.

edub
1/19/2011 1:00pm Edited Date/Time 1/19/2011 1:00pm
Sunhouse wrote:
I can´t believe they want to risk an MX2 World title to a dumb ass SX LITES championship. It´s half a championship for Christ´s sake!
Sunhouse!! You probably know by now I'm a huge GP fan but lets get real. 1st off the SX series is , even though I like MX more ,, the most prestigious dirt bike series in the world. Not to mention gigantic for KTM in showing their bikes to the American public. KTM is well established in Europe as a dominant bike but still hasn't broken through in America as a viable option for the top level national pros.



On top of all that like kenny said last week. When he was a kid he didn't dream of being GP champ. He dreamed of being the sx champ. The kid IMO is the most talented teenager in the world and I say let the kid do his thing.
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1/19/2011 1:20pm Edited Date/Time 1/19/2011 1:22pm
adamdf wrote:
My opinion is "Positive" Supercross isn't easy to adapt to, for most anyone. There is always a learning curve, and it has to begin at some...
My opinion is "Positive"

Supercross isn't easy to adapt to, for most anyone. There is always a learning curve, and it has to begin at some point..We are only two races in, why people are jumping to conclusions about him probably heading back home just kind of shocks me......I mean, did people really think he was going to come and clean house in his first year in supercross? why would anyone expect that? I dont get it sometimes..
Then you have not been paying attention



His and KTM's primary objective for 2011 is and has always been winning the MX2 World GP Title.

Correct?



If he gets hurt in AMA SX, the likelihood of his achieving that goal diminishes, correct?



He has had a few bad crashes and looked very beat up and could barely walk after Phoenix, correct?



Therefore, it is not a big stretch to question the wisdom of sacrificing the long term goal for a short term satisfaction, is it not?

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1/19/2011 2:07pm
Ken just needs to relax, if he gets a start he'll be fine. When he's in the back of the pack he starts making frantic passes and then makes mistakes. Calm down and he'll win.
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1/19/2011 2:19pm Edited Date/Time 1/19/2011 2:21pm
adamdf wrote:
My opinion is "Positive" Supercross isn't easy to adapt to, for most anyone. There is always a learning curve, and it has to begin at some...
My opinion is "Positive"

Supercross isn't easy to adapt to, for most anyone. There is always a learning curve, and it has to begin at some point..We are only two races in, why people are jumping to conclusions about him probably heading back home just kind of shocks me......I mean, did people really think he was going to come and clean house in his first year in supercross? why would anyone expect that? I dont get it sometimes..
flarider wrote:
Then you have not been paying attention His and KTM's primary objective for 2011 is and has always been winning the MX2 World GP Title. Correct...
Then you have not been paying attention



His and KTM's primary objective for 2011 is and has always been winning the MX2 World GP Title.

Correct?



If he gets hurt in AMA SX, the likelihood of his achieving that goal diminishes, correct?



He has had a few bad crashes and looked very beat up and could barely walk after Phoenix, correct?



Therefore, it is not a big stretch to question the wisdom of sacrificing the long term goal for a short term satisfaction, is it not?

The long term goal is also for Ken to win in Supercross.... racing the next four rounds will help him and KTM for next season. KTM want the exposure in the USA for their 250f bike. Ken is the only ride to give them that right now ( and he is fast enough to podium or win) , on the other hand KTM have two top riders in the GP team to fight for the GP title if Ken gets hurt,

You can't wrap him in cotton wool... Paulin rode Sx last year and didn't get hurt... but got hurt practicing for the GPs one week before it started.

Ken is smart enough to learn fast... he has no more chance of getting hurt in supercross than anyone else. And the risk isn't any greater now than it was for KTM or Ken when they originally decided to race the first 6 West supercross races.
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1/19/2011 2:32pm Edited Date/Time 1/19/2011 2:32pm
adamdf wrote:
My opinion is "Positive" Supercross isn't easy to adapt to, for most anyone. There is always a learning curve, and it has to begin at some...
My opinion is "Positive"

Supercross isn't easy to adapt to, for most anyone. There is always a learning curve, and it has to begin at some point..We are only two races in, why people are jumping to conclusions about him probably heading back home just kind of shocks me......I mean, did people really think he was going to come and clean house in his first year in supercross? why would anyone expect that? I dont get it sometimes..
flarider wrote:
Then you have not been paying attention His and KTM's primary objective for 2011 is and has always been winning the MX2 World GP Title. Correct...
Then you have not been paying attention



His and KTM's primary objective for 2011 is and has always been winning the MX2 World GP Title.

Correct?



If he gets hurt in AMA SX, the likelihood of his achieving that goal diminishes, correct?



He has had a few bad crashes and looked very beat up and could barely walk after Phoenix, correct?



Therefore, it is not a big stretch to question the wisdom of sacrificing the long term goal for a short term satisfaction, is it not?

Thats a big assumption that he is doing these SX races for short term satisfaction. My guess is his long term plan is to move here permantly and be a player here. That means Supercross.
His initiation has just started, why quit now? Once he settles down he will be a SX champ, not this year, but for many years to come in the future. Like they say, its easier to calm down a wildman than teach a mellow guy to go faster!
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1/19/2011 3:11pm
Mstock wrote:
Excellent marketing by KTM. More people will be exposed to KTM during the "little lites sx" than the entire GP series. Especially when you add in...
Excellent marketing by KTM. More people will be exposed to KTM during the "little lites sx" than the entire GP series. Especially when you add in all the magazine/website/interviews Ken is doing.
flarider wrote:
Exposed in what light?
Positive or negative?

What looks better...a cartwheeling and wadded KTM or one on the top of the box?
adamdf wrote:
My opinion is "Positive" Supercross isn't easy to adapt to, for most anyone. There is always a learning curve, and it has to begin at some...
My opinion is "Positive"

Supercross isn't easy to adapt to, for most anyone. There is always a learning curve, and it has to begin at some point..We are only two races in, why people are jumping to conclusions about him probably heading back home just kind of shocks me......I mean, did people really think he was going to come and clean house in his first year in supercross? why would anyone expect that? I dont get it sometimes..
he set fastest lap time in qualifying at the very 1st sx he entered...i'd say the learning curve has been ironed out
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1/19/2011 3:17pm
Herlings was riding close to my home, in Lleida, and he was ABSOLUTELY flying. I mean, the only's who have something for Herlings are Simpson, Paulin (if he races MX2) and Roczen.
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1/19/2011 3:23pm
Aren't you the americans who have a rule which says which amount of bikes a brand has to sell to race on the AMA championships? I think TM, a Aprilia and especially GasGas are faaar from that amount.
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1/19/2011 3:37pm
Roczen has LONG term goal in SX in my opinion. Short term isn't even in the equation.
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1/19/2011 4:33pm
How is his ankle?
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1/19/2011 4:58pm
pmcc wrote:
http://www.mxlarge.com/interview/4605-stefan-everts-a-quick-chat Everts says roczen will stay in america and race sx until the gps, and that they don't like to change the plan. So the next...
http://www.mxlarge.com/interview/4605-stefan-everts-a-quick-chat

Everts says roczen will stay in america and race sx until the gps, and that they don't like to change the plan.

So the next few SX lites sould be as exciting as ever with him in, lets see if he can get it figured out!

The real question here is.. How the hell do you deal with your brother??
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1/19/2011 5:26pm
Looking forward to seeing more of this in LA!!

1/19/2011 6:02pm
I for one am glad he's staying. I'm a big fan now.
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1/19/2011 6:06pm
THAT PICTURE IS SWEEEET!
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1/19/2011 10:11pm
Sunhouse wrote:
I can´t believe they want to risk an MX2 World title to a dumb ass SX LITES championship. It´s half a championship for Christ´s sake!
Agreed. I get that if he plans on racing here in the future that he will need to know Supercross, but he is well on his way to an injury.
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1/19/2011 10:15pm
Ick888 wrote:
How is his ankle?
That's what I would like to know. I think that he will do fine if he just takes his time a little more. He still has a lot to learn when it comes to SX, but it seems that he's to excited to show what he has. He has speed, but his timing...............


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