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whats more "fucking pathetic"? someone on the internet who in your opinion is making up some bullshit, or, the reality that your boy was caught red handed sabotaging a race course to cause direct damage to his competitors race vehicles that could potentially hurt or kill someone??? Fricken pull your head out of the sand mate! geez, it happened, not fiction, your boy is wacked and should be banned from all motorsports and most likely will.
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Wow man. You would think the last person in the world that would do that is a moto guy who is the most vulnerable to booby traps. And then on top of that a champion.
On camera he always came off as such a good dude.
Dude makes up a story about tampering with Brabek's bike that no one has ever heard, just because Americans love to pile on any time there's a hint of a foreigner doing wrong. Again, looking for proof and evidence.
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Got a problem with Australia, champ?
Throw the book at him and the whole team, and I'd feel the same for any participant caught doing the same thing.
I mean you are doing a pretty good job in proving his point…
I have zero proof that Price was the one that messed with Brabec's suspension settings a few years back in Dakar, but that did actually happen. The foreigners remark is funny...this whole situation has nothing to do with Toby being an Aussie, and it makes me think you haven't interacted with too many Americans. We're generally not like that....
I agree that SCORE and SLR should provide solid evidence, and just because they DQ'd him doesn't necessarily make him guilty. However....you have to admit that it doesn't look good. His weird IG post talked about evidence and proof being lacking, but said nothing about his own innocence. It's just weird, that's all.
Toby why don’t you give us your side of the story. Do you have a witness that can collaborate your whereabouts that night??
You're right, the situation does not look good, but no one (in particular anyone on this forum) knows what happened, especially with a lack of evidence. Yet the court of public opinion has already handed down it's judgement. The insinuation that he also had something to do with another incident because he may or may not have been involved with a current incident? Come on now.
And I was too quick to generalize you so for that I apologise. For the record I have been living in Canada for the past decade close to the border and have traveled extensively the states and have a lot of American friends. But it's been a trend in these forums for years from some users that whenever a foreigner may have done something wrong, the pitchforks come out along with the discrimination. Buddy calling me out for being another country and having the nerve to even push back on some of the BS in this thread is a prime example
SLR Honda caught him in the act… Score wouldn’t have DQ’ed him unless they had solid evidence. He even admitted his actions to Score. Stay off the drugs dude go relax or something
Nah, you don’t get to re-write the narrative as xenophobia. That’s weak sauce, Toby—try again.
2019 Dakar, Stage 6. Marathon stage so it's self supported. Meaning you don't have your team at the bivouac for the night and only riders are allowed to work on the bikes. Ricky Brabec's fork clickers got turned all the way in on one side and all the way out on the other, then rounded off. Obviously never got caught, but word around the bivouac was Price did it.
Ricky himself posted on it, but later edited the caption. You can still read the comments which give some context. There's also threads all over the race-deZert forums if you care to look
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsllmSxDb7y
Anyone that has followed Dakar at all knows the story of Brabec's bike getting jacked with.
It was at the remote bivouac for the marathon stage. No team members, no pits. Just a spot for them all to sleep, a few officials to watch over, and that's it. All the bikes parked outside under the stars in the sand in one big group.
It is known FACT that someone jacked with Brabec's suspension. Therefore it had to be either another rider or a race official. No one else was there. It couldn't be proven who did it, but only one rider would benefit from the result and that was Toby. So if it wasn't Toby it was another KTM rider (which admittedly doesnt narrow it down much!). In the end it didn't make a difference in the overall because Ricky's engine grenaded and Toby won without issue.
Now, do I think Toby was personally stacking the rocks? No. I think Brent was. But that doesn't matter. Toby is (was) the Driver of Record and therefore he has to take the punishment for what ANYONE on his team does. That's how it works. Someone on his team accosts a SCORE official during the day while Toby is on course a hundred miles away? Toby gets the DQ at the end of the race. As DoR YOU are personally responsible for every single member of your team. Every single one of them, no matter how small or insignificant their role may be. Like it or not, those are the rules and I'm glad they are being enforced even if the outcome bums me out as a long time Toby fan.
THIS!
Exactly! Spot on, appreciate everyone that remembers this.
Blaming his navigator, lol. What a dbag
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stole this from the racedez forum, fuckin hilarious
also, what a fucking loser twat. i have no sympathy for not only a fucking cheat but a booby-trapper.
That overly long instagram post reads like "please please let me race again someday"
I do. These colors don't run, and the the only thing Haiden drops on the race course is his competition, not boulders.
Those colors don't run....
Right up until it is time to show out against the best the world has at Nations.
Then they run as far away as they can.
Fact.
SLR? This was a “4 Wheel Course” violation.
This is also the guy who stayed with the body of Paulo Gonçalves, who had a deadly crash in Dakar, till he was evacuated and then resumed his race.
He is (probably) an accomplish to this, and it is a dirtbag move, but lets not forget that he showed humanity in the past too.
I was under the impression the SLR pit crew discovered them, but I could be wrong. Mark Samuels seems pretty fired up about it.
It's still terrible, but it would've been 10x worse if it was on part of the motorcycle course....
The whole thing is really sad....
Fake News.
He seems like a badass. Sure hope it is not true, but everything sure points to him being involved.
A potentially innocent person — ‘I didn’t do it, I can’t be bothered fighting it but I must reiterate I did not do it, I had no knowledge of it and whoever did it should face the full extent of not just race adjudication but law enforcement.’
A definitely guilty Toby Price — ‘like OMG, they didn’t even have evidence to the level that I would deem appropriate when punishing me for my actions. It’s been supes tough for me guys’
As a fellow Finke Desert Race competitor, he was apparently known around Alice Springs to use pre running to create cheater lines… while not at the level of this it says a lot about his character
Did Price also throw some sand pass airfilter at same time to make his engine die?
Ok, got it.
I thought it was Morgan in a SxS or 4x4 that stumbled on to them doing their Rock-Trick…all the while I thought Morgan was racing an SxS at the 250…? Or maybe he was heading out set-up a remote pit for SLR…?
Anyways…still…this whole thing is a real bummer.
On Friday night, at the Riders/Drivers meeting…the obvious assumption was “spectators” just being crazy…but, the next day…it was a stunner.
There’s no reasonable explanation.
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