Anyone else thinks Deegan beats Jett first round?

Johnny Ringo wrote:

You really think Malcom will be fighting Deegs at Pala? Are you high

APLMAN99 wrote:

I think you may have missed some important context in my post…

Johnny Ringo wrote:

No, I intentionally ignored it to support my argument 

Kenny Banyan wrote:

Danger will need some good starts, if he does, he has a better chance to beat Jett than anyone else IMO. Realistically I see him with...

Danger will need some good starts, if he does, he has a better chance to beat Jett than anyone else IMO. Realistically I see him with an overall podium at first national. I do believe he will win an overall and some moto’s. 

The real Sasquatch wrote:

I know Supercross is very different and Deegan was coming through the pack. But if you took His average lap time in the main and assume...

I know Supercross is very different and Deegan was coming through the pack. But if you took His average lap time in the main and assume he would keep that same average in the longer main.  He finishes 3rd about 15 seconds behind Rockzen but Infront of Tomac by about the same. 

That ride was a good one by Deegan but I really don't see what everybody is so impressed about.  

 

If Jett is able to ride at 80% or better, Jett wins. I have doubts that Jett will be 100%, but I still have him as my favorite to win. With that said, I don't doubt that Deegan will be a podium guy with a good start and or some luck. I also think that Deegan learns very quickly and if Jett comes out and beats him by a minute in the first round, Deegan will find speed and  be up there by the end of the season.

 

I don't see Deegan wining in a straight up race with Jett at 100% at Pala.  Who knows what will happen, I just hope that they ALL ride clean and we  get a close battle  from the start to finish. No matter who the winner is. Not just a wham bam take out of anybody. In the most recent Deegan Youtube video he was pointing out how he rode a clean race and didn't take anybody out. I hope he wants to keep riding that way and let his speed determine his results and not who takes who out. 

 

 No matter what happens, I'm excited to watch it and see how things happen. My prediction for Deegan is a 3-4    at Pala for his first 450 race,                                                                                                                                                        

Kenny Banyan wrote:

Danger will need some good starts, if he does, he has a better chance to beat Jett than anyone else IMO. Realistically I see him with...

Danger will need some good starts, if he does, he has a better chance to beat Jett than anyone else IMO. Realistically I see him with an overall podium at first national. I do believe he will win an overall and some moto’s. 

RDnutz wrote:

do you know what realistically means?

The real Sasquatch wrote:

I know Supercross is very different and Deegan was coming through the pack. But if you took His average lap time in the main and assume...

I know Supercross is very different and Deegan was coming through the pack. But if you took His average lap time in the main and assume he would keep that same average in the longer main.  He finishes 3rd about 15 seconds behind Rockzen but Infront of Tomac by about the same. 

That ride was a good one by Deegan but I really don't see what everybody is so impressed about.  

 

If Jett is able to ride at 80% or better, Jett wins. I have doubts that Jett will be 100%, but I still have him as my favorite to win. With that said, I don't doubt that Deegan will be a podium guy with a good start and or some luck. I also think that Deegan learns very quickly and if Jett comes out and beats him by a minute in the first round, Deegan will find speed and  be up there by the end of the season.

 

I don't see Deegan wining in a straight up race with Jett at 100% at Pala.  Who knows what will happen, I just hope that they ALL ride clean and we  get a close battle  from the start to finish. No matter who the winner is. Not just a wham bam take out of anybody. In the most recent Deegan Youtube video he was pointing out how he rode a clean race and didn't take anybody out. I hope he wants to keep riding that way and let his speed determine his results and not who takes who out. 

 

 No matter what happens, I'm excited to watch it and see how things happen. My prediction for Deegan is a 3-4    at Pala for his first 450 race,                                                                                                                                                        

dog_lover_136 wrote:

Everyone is so impressed because we may have just seen his best race of his 250 sx career.

The real Sasquatch wrote:

It was a good ride, and he's an amazing rider.  Maybe if Hunter and Roczen didn't do what they did I would have been more impressed...

It was a good ride, and he's an amazing rider.  Maybe if Hunter and Roczen didn't do what they did I would have been more impressed. Kenny came from  16th  through the pack and kept making up a little time each  lap for most of the time behind Hunter. Hunter managed the gap well .

 

I'll have to rewatch the 250 main and see what I missed the first time I watched. I think it was a great ride, but I feel like its not something other 250 guys haven't done before.   First and second  almost lapping  7th place and gapping 3rd Eli Tomac by over 30 seconds without 3rd place having any issues and being the race wining level rider that Eli is, impressed me and was an all time great kind of 450 ride by Hunter and Kenny. Maybe if they had not done what they did it would impress me more. But  in a way it helps make what Deegan did impressive too with him cutting through similar to Kenny on a technical track.

washingtonstate80-125cc wrote:

Yes. And the cope here is comical. This forum has been writing Deegs off to the point of absurdity for his entire career, and the dude...

Yes. And the cope here is comical. This forum has been writing Deegs off to the point of absurdity for his entire career, and the dude is literally about to wrap up a 250 career that is superior to Jett’s. Guys here are in for a really rude awakening. I would suggest accepting at least the smallest dose of reality so that your minds don’t melt when Deegs does defeat Jett and looks good doing it. At least admit that he is very likely to give Jett a challenge this summer. For God’s sake.

Spike33 wrote:

Deegs is more worried about beating Hunter. Jett isn’t even the fastest Lawrence. 

kylemenz1 wrote:

Pala is probably the best track for Deegan. So there’s a chance. 

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Nah, Hangtown. Deegs rolls there and JL hasn’t been as lights out there. Stamp it

Jett at Pala is like RC at millville. Good luck. 

AH387 wrote:

Pretty sure Pala is statistically Jett's best track. I wouldn't bet on Deegs beating him there in his first 450 race. If so, then all credit...

Pretty sure Pala is statistically Jett's best track. I wouldn't bet on Deegs beating him there in his first 450 race. If so, then all credit to him though.

Ob917 wrote:

Jett is super good at Pala obviously. But Deegs grew up there, every week doing laps. He could have a chance 🤷🏻‍♂️Only cause Jett’s not been...

Jett is super good at Pala obviously. But Deegs grew up there, every week doing laps. He could have a chance 🤷🏻‍♂️Only cause Jett’s not been racing. 

The real Sasquatch wrote:

I know Supercross is very different and Deegan was coming through the pack. But if you took His average lap time in the main and assume...

I know Supercross is very different and Deegan was coming through the pack. But if you took His average lap time in the main and assume he would keep that same average in the longer main.  He finishes 3rd about 15 seconds behind Rockzen but Infront of Tomac by about the same. 

That ride was a good one by Deegan but I really don't see what everybody is so impressed about.  

 

If Jett is able to ride at 80% or better, Jett wins. I have doubts that Jett will be 100%, but I still have him as my favorite to win. With that said, I don't doubt that Deegan will be a podium guy with a good start and or some luck. I also think that Deegan learns very quickly and if Jett comes out and beats him by a minute in the first round, Deegan will find speed and  be up there by the end of the season.

 

I don't see Deegan wining in a straight up race with Jett at 100% at Pala.  Who knows what will happen, I just hope that they ALL ride clean and we  get a close battle  from the start to finish. No matter who the winner is. Not just a wham bam take out of anybody. In the most recent Deegan Youtube video he was pointing out how he rode a clean race and didn't take anybody out. I hope he wants to keep riding that way and let his speed determine his results and not who takes who out. 

 

 No matter what happens, I'm excited to watch it and see how things happen. My prediction for Deegan is a 3-4    at Pala for his first 450 race,                                                                                                                                                        

AH387 wrote:

Pretty sure Pala is statistically Jett's best track. I wouldn't bet on Deegs beating him there in his first 450 race. If so, then all credit...

Pretty sure Pala is statistically Jett's best track. I wouldn't bet on Deegs beating him there in his first 450 race. If so, then all credit to him though.

Ob917 wrote:

Jett is super good at Pala obviously. But Deegs grew up there, every week doing laps. He could have a chance 🤷🏻‍♂️Only cause Jett’s not been...

Jett is super good at Pala obviously. But Deegs grew up there, every week doing laps. He could have a chance 🤷🏻‍♂️Only cause Jett’s not been racing. 

DonJulio wrote:

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Mavetism wrote:

It is crazy to me that some people only talk about Jett vs Deegan and assume Deegan will just move up and blow by guys like...

It is crazy to me that some people only talk about Jett vs Deegan and assume Deegan will just move up and blow by guys like Hunter, Tomac or Prado. I didn't list Chase cause who knows at this point with him and Kawi.

Many people always compare their 250 careers since they're very similar and dominant. But people forget Jett became a complete different alien once he got on the 450, you think Deegan makes the same big step and becomes even better on the 450?

Johnny Ringo wrote:

You guys just have to look at history. What other 250 rider with Deegan’s (likely 4) championships moved up and DIDN’T win/succeed? Is Deegan going to...

You guys just have to look at history. What other 250 rider with Deegan’s (likely 4) championships moved up and DIDN’T win/succeed? Is Deegan going to be the first? (The list of 4 250 titles is RV, RC, Stew, Jett)

Now ask yourself which is more likely. That Deegan will win much to the chagrin of this forum, or that he breaks 50 years of stats and falls on his face?

To quote J-Bone in The Great Outdoors “I just want to see a battle”

Mavetism wrote:

It is crazy to me that some people only talk about Jett vs Deegan and assume Deegan will just move up and blow by guys like...

It is crazy to me that some people only talk about Jett vs Deegan and assume Deegan will just move up and blow by guys like Hunter, Tomac or Prado. I didn't list Chase cause who knows at this point with him and Kawi.

Many people always compare their 250 careers since they're very similar and dominant. But people forget Jett became a complete different alien once he got on the 450, you think Deegan makes the same big step and becomes even better on the 450?

Johnny Ringo wrote:

You guys just have to look at history. What other 250 rider with Deegan’s (likely 4) championships moved up and DIDN’T win/succeed? Is Deegan going to...

You guys just have to look at history. What other 250 rider with Deegan’s (likely 4) championships moved up and DIDN’T win/succeed? Is Deegan going to be the first? (The list of 4 250 titles is RV, RC, Stew, Jett)

Now ask yourself which is more likely. That Deegan will win much to the chagrin of this forum, or that he breaks 50 years of stats and falls on his face?

To quote J-Bone in The Great Outdoors “I just want to see a battle”

Mavetism wrote:

Well

Johnny Ringo wrote:

You guys just have to look at history. What other 250 rider with Deegan’s (likely 4) championships moved up and DIDN’T win/succeed? Is Deegan going to...

You guys just have to look at history. What other 250 rider with Deegan’s (likely 4) championships moved up and DIDN’T win/succeed? Is Deegan going to be the first? (The list of 4 250 titles is RV, RC, Stew, Jett)

Now ask yourself which is more likely. That Deegan will win much to the chagrin of this forum, or that he breaks 50 years of stats and falls on his face?

To quote J-Bone in The Great Outdoors “I just want to see a battle”

Mavetism wrote:

Well

decano51 wrote:

brutal

Sandusky26 wrote:

Yes, this place has gone to shit. Im embarrassed for some of these guys.

 

Sandusky26 wrote:

Yes, this place has gone to shit. Im embarrassed for some of these guys.

 

gt80rider wrote:

🤣🤣

That's what internet forums are for... to have fun talkn chit... this ain't rocket surgery 

Sandusky26 wrote:

Yes, this place has gone to shit. Im embarrassed for some of these guys.

 

gt80rider wrote:

🤣🤣

That's what internet forums are for... to have fun talkn chit... this ain't rocket surgery 

DonJulio wrote:

Some people can’t handle it

gt80rider wrote:

🤣🤣

That's what internet forums are for... to have fun talkn chit... this ain't rocket surgery 

DonJulio wrote:

Some people can’t handle it

Sandusky26 wrote:

I agree, 3 usernames in 3 months is a good sign of somebody who is fucked in the head.

DonJulio wrote:

Some people can’t handle it

Sandusky26 wrote:

I agree, 3 usernames in 3 months is a good sign of somebody who is fucked in the head.

DonJulio wrote:

Whatever you have to tell yourself buddy. 0-16