Anyone else thinks Deegan beats Jett first round?

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Fair point...easy is a relative term. I think he can beat Jett...Eli can beat Jett, Hunter can beat Jett. I'm not so sure Jett will be the same guy we have become used to seeing. Injuries happen and can effect people in different ways. Like...not wanting to get hurt again. This can make a person not push as in the past. or take that risk as easily. I'll be curious how Jett does racing. 

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The only one that has beat Jett consistently is Jett himself…I do think that this year is going to be harder for him coming off a serious ankle/foot injury with Eli and Hunter stepping it up, Deegan coming in and a renewed Prado will make it tough for him.  

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Does anyone know how his times are at the Star outdoor test track compared to Webb and Cooper (or Tomac from last year)?  I am 100%...

Does anyone know how his times are at the Star outdoor test track compared to Webb and Cooper (or Tomac from last year)?  I am 100% confidents Deegs will have something for Jett and the 450 field in outdoors.  Winning round one?  Well that is a stretch, but not an impossibility.  Deegs is a freaking Dawg and has the mentality to send it outdoors.  His 250 career is better than Jetts by far.  He smoked the 250 field (and Davies whom was suppose to have something for Deegs and got his man card ripped from him).  I am a Tomac fan and want nothing more than #3 to smash the field outdoors, but reality is these young guns are gonna be HARD to beat this summer.  

Mavetism wrote:

"His 250 career is better than Jetts by far.

You really wrote that down and thought "yeah that sounds about right" while they have similar stats, huh? 

 

Not by far, but just take a look at the stats, Haiden is better than jett in 250 mx in most categories, idk about sx.

Stats are one metric but not the most important one in this case.

Have you seen Jett Lawrence ride? 

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tcalzone wrote:
Does anyone know how his times are at the Star outdoor test track compared to Webb and Cooper (or Tomac from last year)?  I am 100%...

Does anyone know how his times are at the Star outdoor test track compared to Webb and Cooper (or Tomac from last year)?  I am 100% confidents Deegs will have something for Jett and the 450 field in outdoors.  Winning round one?  Well that is a stretch, but not an impossibility.  Deegs is a freaking Dawg and has the mentality to send it outdoors.  His 250 career is better than Jetts by far.  He smoked the 250 field (and Davies whom was suppose to have something for Deegs and got his man card ripped from him).  I am a Tomac fan and want nothing more than #3 to smash the field outdoors, but reality is these young guns are gonna be HARD to beat this summer.  

Mavetism wrote:

"His 250 career is better than Jetts by far.

You really wrote that down and thought "yeah that sounds about right" while they have similar stats, huh? 

 

Not by far, but just take a look at the stats, Haiden is better than jett in 250 mx in most categories, idk about sx.

Yeah but stats don't tell the whole story.. Who was Jett racing? Are the guys that Haiden is racing gonna end up being better than the guys Jett was racing? Like you could say Haiden was better cause he's got more SMX 250 titles.. And if ya gonna take stats as a metric unless Deegan goes 22 (well 24) -0 Jett will always be 'better' 

I just think it's a bit silly to compare two different seasons

Another Edit haha I'm also not suggesting that Jett's career is more or less impressive than Deegan's either

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Mavetism wrote:

"His 250 career is better than Jetts by far.

You really wrote that down and thought "yeah that sounds about right" while they have similar stats, huh? 

 

Not by far, but just take a look at the stats, Haiden is better than jett in 250 mx in most categories, idk about sx.

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Yeah but stats don't tell the whole story.. Who was Jett racing? Are the guys that Haiden is racing gonna end up being better than the...

Yeah but stats don't tell the whole story.. Who was Jett racing? Are the guys that Haiden is racing gonna end up being better than the guys Jett was racing? Like you could say Haiden was better cause he's got more SMX 250 titles.. And if ya gonna take stats as a metric unless Deegan goes 22 (well 24) -0 Jett will always be 'better' 

I just think it's a bit silly to compare two different seasons

Another Edit haha I'm also not suggesting that Jett's career is more or less impressive than Deegan's either

Then why do most Jett fans compare Jett to MC and RV? Who they race at the time doesn’t matter until that groups career is over…and you do realize they have raced for the most part the same competition…

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jemcee wrote:
Yeah but stats don't tell the whole story.. Who was Jett racing? Are the guys that Haiden is racing gonna end up being better than the...

Yeah but stats don't tell the whole story.. Who was Jett racing? Are the guys that Haiden is racing gonna end up being better than the guys Jett was racing? Like you could say Haiden was better cause he's got more SMX 250 titles.. And if ya gonna take stats as a metric unless Deegan goes 22 (well 24) -0 Jett will always be 'better' 

I just think it's a bit silly to compare two different seasons

Another Edit haha I'm also not suggesting that Jett's career is more or less impressive than Deegan's either

I was gonna reply to you, but DonM basically said what I was gonna say. Kinda the same competition , etc.

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Not by far, but just take a look at the stats, Haiden is better than jett in 250 mx in most categories, idk about sx.

jemcee wrote:
Yeah but stats don't tell the whole story.. Who was Jett racing? Are the guys that Haiden is racing gonna end up being better than the...

Yeah but stats don't tell the whole story.. Who was Jett racing? Are the guys that Haiden is racing gonna end up being better than the guys Jett was racing? Like you could say Haiden was better cause he's got more SMX 250 titles.. And if ya gonna take stats as a metric unless Deegan goes 22 (well 24) -0 Jett will always be 'better' 

I just think it's a bit silly to compare two different seasons

Another Edit haha I'm also not suggesting that Jett's career is more or less impressive than Deegan's either

DonM wrote:
Then why do most Jett fans compare Jett to MC and RV? Who they race at the time doesn’t matter until that groups career is over…and...

Then why do most Jett fans compare Jett to MC and RV? Who they race at the time doesn’t matter until that groups career is over…and you do realize they have raced for the most part the same competition…

Yeah I don't know why haha I mean there's certain stats that stand out and mean more.. And yes ya right Who they race at the time doesn't matter until that groups career is over, sooo we agree?

I mean sure this year Deegan is dominant but how did he go against RJ, Hunter, Craig, Smith, Nichols?

Deegan's closest challengers are Kitchen Shimoda and Davies.. Jett raced Shimoda but Shimoda wasn't the guy he is now.. or is he? 

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Stats are one metric but not the most important one in this case.

Have you seen Jett Lawrence ride? 

I think most people will agree with me when I say that had Jett and Deegan raced the 250 outdoor together, Jett would have 2 less 250 outdoor titles. 

 

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jemcee wrote:
Yeah but stats don't tell the whole story.. Who was Jett racing? Are the guys that Haiden is racing gonna end up being better than the...

Yeah but stats don't tell the whole story.. Who was Jett racing? Are the guys that Haiden is racing gonna end up being better than the guys Jett was racing? Like you could say Haiden was better cause he's got more SMX 250 titles.. And if ya gonna take stats as a metric unless Deegan goes 22 (well 24) -0 Jett will always be 'better' 

I just think it's a bit silly to compare two different seasons

Another Edit haha I'm also not suggesting that Jett's career is more or less impressive than Deegan's either

I was gonna reply to you, but DonM basically said what I was gonna say. Kinda the same competition , etc.

I'll also add could be same comp sure but who was or wasn't injured/coming off injury? Who was or wasn't struggling with their bike, new team? All that shit.. Not saying they don't matter at all but I've seen people say that it means that Deegan is better than Jett haha. Compares to? Absolutely

Also I know I've quoted you a few times lately I hope you don't feel like I'm attacking ya haha

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Stats are one metric but not the most important one in this case.

Have you seen Jett Lawrence ride? 

I think most people will agree with me when I say that had Jett and Deegan raced the 250 outdoor together, Jett would have 2 less...

I think most people will agree with me when I say that had Jett and Deegan raced the 250 outdoor together, Jett would have 2 less 250 outdoor titles. 

 

hahahahahahahahah!
 

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Stats are one metric but not the most important one in this case.

Have you seen Jett Lawrence ride? 

I think most people will agree with me when I say that had Jett and Deegan raced the 250 outdoor together, Jett would have 2 less...

I think most people will agree with me when I say that had Jett and Deegan raced the 250 outdoor together, Jett would have 2 less 250 outdoor titles. 

 

They did, go look at the 2022 season. Also, Hunter raced him in 2023. 

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Stats are one metric but not the most important one in this case.

Have you seen Jett Lawrence ride? 

I think most people will agree with me when I say that had Jett and Deegan raced the 250 outdoor together, Jett would have 2 less...

I think most people will agree with me when I say that had Jett and Deegan raced the 250 outdoor together, Jett would have 2 less 250 outdoor titles. 

 

I think your hand agrees with that...

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Mavetism wrote:
It is crazy to me that some people only talk about Jett vs Deegan and assume Deegan will just move up and blow by guys like...

It is crazy to me that some people only talk about Jett vs Deegan and assume Deegan will just move up and blow by guys like Hunter, Tomac or Prado. I didn't list Chase cause who knows at this point with him and Kawi.

Many people always compare their 250 careers since they're very similar and dominant. But people forget Jett became a complete different alien once he got on the 450, you think Deegan makes the same big step and becomes even better on the 450?

He's already been on the 450 in WSX. Good start, but every moment Jett was on a 450 up to his 22-0 (MXDN before 450 MX) he was an alien.

I think Deegan will be competitive in 450MX, but the 450 field is/has been littered with 250MX champs that are good not great. Webb, J-Mart, Adam C, Aaron Plessinger, Blake Baggett, Dean Wilson, Trey Canard.

Friggin Trey Canard took down Ryan Villopoto in Supercross - literally - those are some bad dudes that were 250MX champs and good not great in 450. 

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Mavetism wrote:
It is crazy to me that some people only talk about Jett vs Deegan and assume Deegan will just move up and blow by guys like...

It is crazy to me that some people only talk about Jett vs Deegan and assume Deegan will just move up and blow by guys like Hunter, Tomac or Prado. I didn't list Chase cause who knows at this point with him and Kawi.

Many people always compare their 250 careers since they're very similar and dominant. But people forget Jett became a complete different alien once he got on the 450, you think Deegan makes the same big step and becomes even better on the 450?

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He's already been on the 450 in WSX. Good start, but every moment Jett was on a 450 up to his 22-0 (MXDN before 450 MX)...

He's already been on the 450 in WSX. Good start, but every moment Jett was on a 450 up to his 22-0 (MXDN before 450 MX) he was an alien.

I think Deegan will be competitive in 450MX, but the 450 field is/has been littered with 250MX champs that are good not great. Webb, J-Mart, Adam C, Aaron Plessinger, Blake Baggett, Dean Wilson, Trey Canard.

Friggin Trey Canard took down Ryan Villopoto in Supercross - literally - those are some bad dudes that were 250MX champs and good not great in 450. 

 Volume, though. 4 titles, some of those names only have 1. It makes a difference 

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Pretty sure Pala is statistically Jett's best track. I wouldn't bet on Deegs beating him there in his first 450 race. If so, then all credit...

Pretty sure Pala is statistically Jett's best track. I wouldn't bet on Deegs beating him there in his first 450 race. If so, then all credit to him though.

Jett is super good at Pala obviously. But Deegs grew up there, every week doing laps. He could have a chance 🤷🏻‍♂️Only cause Jett’s not been racing. 

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DerickYZ wrote:

Deegan isn’t beating Jett unless Jett crashes, gets hurt, DNF/DNS. 

Unless Deegan goes 22-0 his rookie year, he’ll forever be under Jett

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Just facts, and I’m not Lawrence fan. 

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3/25/2026 12:08pm Edited Date/Time 3/25/2026 3:43pm

Not going to rule it out,   haiden has accomplished everything Jett has on the 250 and Jett hasn't even been on his bike yet.     Tall order? Obviously but people also said Jett would struggle with chase and Eli and here we are. 

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Stats are one metric but not the most important one in this case.

Have you seen Jett Lawrence ride? 

I think most people will agree with me when I say that had Jett and Deegan raced the 250 outdoor together, Jett would have 2 less...

I think most people will agree with me when I say that had Jett and Deegan raced the 250 outdoor together, Jett would have 2 less 250 outdoor titles. 

 

Hasletjoe wrote:

They did, go look at the 2022 season. Also, Hunter raced him in 2023. 

Jett raced Deegan for two Nationals when Deegan was still a pro/am, and Hunter beat a rookie Deegan.  I'm comparing both Jett's and Haiden's title winning seasons.  Any fair-minded, objective person would say Deegan would win, and if they say otherwise, they are a lying dog faced pony soldier.

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DonM wrote:

You Euros sure aren’t shy regarding your biased opinions….

Eh I dont watch MXGP as think AMA is better quality - tracks & riders (apart from Lommel as love watching the struggle).

Nobody knows how he is going to do, no point guessing unless you are based at Star Facility.  He might need a reality check BUT he has got time on hi8s side due to age.  Will be interesting to see what the nut huggers do if hes not easily winning.  

And just in case your wondering I am not a Jett nuthugger and turn volume down when they start with what I say is over exposure.  Am interested to see how Hunta goes this year with the needed improvement to be team leader in SX this year.

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Jett rides sections skipping & jumping ovr obstacles. It’s like he races the track with 1/2 the obstacles. Deegan is pinned everywhere & hits 100% of the obstacles.  Until he mimics Jett,s style , he will not  beat him.  

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Depending on who actually is healthy and/or lines up at Pala, I think that Deegan will likely have one moto finish of 5-7, and one moto finish of 3-4. 

Jett’s injury is a little bit of a wild card, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him come out and win both motos going away, either, especially with the other top tier guys still tired from Supercross. 

If Sexton is physically/mentally healthy, it’s going to be tough to fight for wins against Jett, Eli, Hunter, Chase, JCoop, and maybe Roczen if he races Pala. Throw in a couple other wild cards like Malcolm, Ferrandis, Plesinger, and maybe Anderson and even if they don’t beat Deegan at the end of a moto, they can probably put up more of a fight than most 250SX fields do if he starts behind them. 

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APLMAN99 wrote:
Depending on who actually is healthy and/or lines up at Pala, I think that Deegan will likely have one moto finish of 5-7, and one moto...

Depending on who actually is healthy and/or lines up at Pala, I think that Deegan will likely have one moto finish of 5-7, and one moto finish of 3-4. 

Jett’s injury is a little bit of a wild card, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him come out and win both motos going away, either, especially with the other top tier guys still tired from Supercross. 

If Sexton is physically/mentally healthy, it’s going to be tough to fight for wins against Jett, Eli, Hunter, Chase, JCoop, and maybe Roczen if he races Pala. Throw in a couple other wild cards like Malcolm, Ferrandis, Plesinger, and maybe Anderson and even if they don’t beat Deegan at the end of a moto, they can probably put up more of a fight than most 250SX fields do if he starts behind them. 

You really think Malcom will be fighting Deegs at Pala? Are you high

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APLMAN99 wrote:
Depending on who actually is healthy and/or lines up at Pala, I think that Deegan will likely have one moto finish of 5-7, and one moto...

Depending on who actually is healthy and/or lines up at Pala, I think that Deegan will likely have one moto finish of 5-7, and one moto finish of 3-4. 

Jett’s injury is a little bit of a wild card, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him come out and win both motos going away, either, especially with the other top tier guys still tired from Supercross. 

If Sexton is physically/mentally healthy, it’s going to be tough to fight for wins against Jett, Eli, Hunter, Chase, JCoop, and maybe Roczen if he races Pala. Throw in a couple other wild cards like Malcolm, Ferrandis, Plesinger, and maybe Anderson and even if they don’t beat Deegan at the end of a moto, they can probably put up more of a fight than most 250SX fields do if he starts behind them. 

You really think Malcom will be fighting Deegs at Pala? Are you high

I think you may have missed some important context in my post…

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APLMAN99 wrote:
Depending on who actually is healthy and/or lines up at Pala, I think that Deegan will likely have one moto finish of 5-7, and one moto...

Depending on who actually is healthy and/or lines up at Pala, I think that Deegan will likely have one moto finish of 5-7, and one moto finish of 3-4. 

Jett’s injury is a little bit of a wild card, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him come out and win both motos going away, either, especially with the other top tier guys still tired from Supercross. 

If Sexton is physically/mentally healthy, it’s going to be tough to fight for wins against Jett, Eli, Hunter, Chase, JCoop, and maybe Roczen if he races Pala. Throw in a couple other wild cards like Malcolm, Ferrandis, Plesinger, and maybe Anderson and even if they don’t beat Deegan at the end of a moto, they can probably put up more of a fight than most 250SX fields do if he starts behind them. 

You really think Malcom will be fighting Deegs at Pala? Are you high

APLMAN99 wrote:

I think you may have missed some important context in my post…

No, I intentionally ignored it to support my argument 

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APLMAN99 wrote:
Depending on who actually is healthy and/or lines up at Pala, I think that Deegan will likely have one moto finish of 5-7, and one moto...

Depending on who actually is healthy and/or lines up at Pala, I think that Deegan will likely have one moto finish of 5-7, and one moto finish of 3-4. 

Jett’s injury is a little bit of a wild card, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him come out and win both motos going away, either, especially with the other top tier guys still tired from Supercross. 

If Sexton is physically/mentally healthy, it’s going to be tough to fight for wins against Jett, Eli, Hunter, Chase, JCoop, and maybe Roczen if he races Pala. Throw in a couple other wild cards like Malcolm, Ferrandis, Plesinger, and maybe Anderson and even if they don’t beat Deegan at the end of a moto, they can probably put up more of a fight than most 250SX fields do if he starts behind them. 

It’s really only Jett, Hunter, Chase racing for the top 3. Add Eli, JCoop at a couple races.  So Deegan has a shot at top 3,s.  The rest of the gate is milking a contract, don’t hv the speed or too old.  I wish I had it that easy , gates of 25-29 . The top 12 in 125 class can win in D16.  50+ top 8 at most tracks.  

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No, I intentionally ignored it to support my argument 

That's funny

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You really think Malcom will be fighting Deegs at Pala? Are you high

APLMAN99 wrote:

I think you may have missed some important context in my post…

No, I intentionally ignored it to support my argument 

What's your argument?

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Danger will need some good starts, if he does, he has a better chance to beat Jett than anyone else IMO. Realistically I see him with an overall podium at first national. I do believe he will win an overall and some moto’s. 

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