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Rotator cuff injury had it repaired and injured again. put off treatment and used other arm to compensate. Stopped working out and about a year later my good arm wouldn't raise above my waist. Had EMG test and severe nerve damage, MRI revealed Brachial Plexus injury. Neurologist said its rare and was his 1st patient. Referred me to a neurosurgeon, Anyone have this type of injury? what was the repair ? looked it up and its a radical procedure? Thanks
I had the 2 nerves injected numerous times. It blows up the ligaments elbow to fingers. Makes my arm pump up on the 2nd lap , fingers & hand go numb too. Dr said it’s from ovr working it the 20-40 hr days injuries look like there permanent. There’s a few tore muscles shoulder blade to arm pit too.deep aching pain all the time. Medical people here r real bad .
A friend of mine had similar symptoms and it turned out to be Frozen Shoulder. Might want to investigate with another Dr opinion before surgery.
Frozen shoulder - Symptoms and causes - Mayo Clinic
I had an axillary nerve stretch injury from a crash related dislocation. Essentially my front deltoid was paralyzed. Had a tricep nerve grafted to my axillary nerve and recovered most of my deltoid function. Very different from your mechanism of injury though.
Dr. Amy Moore as Ohio State University did the procedure. She was phenomenal.
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Yeah 2-3 14 hr shifts in a row 7 days a week ave 4 1/2 months straight. Double stacked liquid tots 7,800 lbs with a 1/2 missing wheel on the pallet jack & 2 million lbs of odd freight hand unloaded, contributed also.
I just worked a 40 hr day.
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Who’s old mx track right off the 23 state highway in. Brighton Michigan ?
Just saw it as I drove by the jumps all have trees growing up out of them
Always makes me feel sad thinking of kids riding and training on these old homemade tracks and their dads building them and then life moves on…..
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My injury might not have been as severe as yours, but I damaged nerves that controlled the muscles in my shoulders that lift my arm. My arm was laying by my side for the first 6 months or more, but 3 years down the road, I’m almost back to normal. I learned that unless the nerves are severed, they will repair themselves at some point. The doctor told me that nerves are some of the slowest healing body tissues. As I recall, I think the rate of repair was about 1mm a month.
I had Ulnar nerve surgery last October was riding again on week 4 with the kids but not recommended. I’m still gaining strength but not 100%. Started getting tingling and grip strength loss Dr sent me to a neurologist and that’s what it was. Anyways surgery and recovery wasn’t to bad but I’ve still got numbness and some minor side affects. Overall it was worth it.
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@DirtRoadmx47 when I read that sounds like we are in the 1%. Background I am 62 years young and last June I crashed on my mountain bike. Suffering from 8 broken ribs, punctured lung, dislocated collarbone and a few other injuries. I had a Flail chest so they put titanium plates in/on my ribs to stabilize them. I had lost feeling in my hand and now my entire right arm has no feeling. Had the EMG nerve conduction test done and I have Brachial Plexus so my neurosurgeon has referred me to a vascular neurosurgeon if they can even put back together. I’ve had two shoulder operations on previously. I am having a MRI contrast and CT scan without contrast in the next couple weeks and then I’ll see the vascular neurosurgeon to figure out what we’re gonna do. So I feel your pain if you message I’ll give you my phone number. I’m in Florida.
MX546 Sorry to hear. I also had a fall and broke ribs but at that time no nerve damage or lack of arm use appeared. My right shoulder was injured and when working out it aggravated it so I stopped to see if it would improve. Then i couldnt raise my injured arm. then about a year later out of the blue with no injury my uninjured arm wouldnt raise. I have an appointment next week with a neurosurgeon. Good luck.
are you guys getting Orthopedic consults before seeing Neurologists?
I had a Brachial Plexus injury 15+ years ago after a nasty wreck. Was able to move my fingers in my right arm with no problem, but no other muscles in that same arm would move or fire.
The doctor described the nerves as cooked spaghetti noodles wrapped in saran wrap. When stretched too far, the spaghetti noodles tear. When it's just the spaghetti noodles, they can repair themselves slowly over time (the slowest healing part of the body). However if the saran wrap tears, then there is no coming back and you have no nerve function in wherever that never is (arm, legs, below neck, etc). Just the torn noodles is what Brachial Plexus is.
I went through an orthopedic surgeon he’s the one that finally recommended going to a neurologist. Once he saw the findings from the neurologist, my surgery was scheduled within two weeks.
wishing you best of luck in your recovery!
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My orthopedic doctor told wasn’t a darn thing he could do for this that I needed a neurologist to try to regain use of my hand
First Dr I went to was an orthopedic surgeon. He said I don't think I can help you??? I mentioned to a retired surgeon that a weird thing happened in winter, felt like my shoulders had sunburn and he instantly said see a neurologist. I YouTubed some Brachial plexus injury treatments and one patient had muscle removed from his leg and transplanted in his arm. Good luck RDnutz with your hand.
let's both wish MX546 best of luck on fixing his hand. I'm not considering surgery on either of mine at this time 😉
Ortho Drs, 2nd opinions, Neurologists... reason I brought this up earlier is from decades of personal HMO style health care- both with work coverage and buying insurance on my own (Obamacare, etc.)
I'm 67 and always abused my body since pre-teens and my joints, discs and skeleton have suffered for it. Got to add in age, injury, and inevitable Arthritis playing hard into my 50s. I got lucky to find a Sports medicine guy for my Primary care Dr back in 1995 when I was facing brain surgery. He enlightened me on importance of 2nd opinions when things are really serious or seeming hopeless. Even guided me through going around the Head of Orthopedics within the department at UCSD because he wouldn't help fix my blown-up right shoulder for ridiculous reasons in 2009. I found the exact right guy there, got fixed and not a single problem since - even with riding. Used him again for both Carpal tunnel fixes.
I also had a Neurology consult for constant neck pain with imaging showing disc problems back in early 2000s. The Dr. immediately said I needed fusion of 3 vertebrae and answers to my questions about lifestyle going forward scared the crap out of me (like what happened with brain surgery) so I asked if there was something less invasive to try 1st. He said, "we could try PT, but you'll be back in 6 months for the surgery". Turns out PT was the answer- got rid of my pain and stiffness and tingling in my fingers in 6 visits and hooked me up with home devices to treat at home whenever I needed it. I never got surgery and continue to treat at home as needed to this day. I have other similar stories with other health issues.
Moral of my story is I learned Surgeons always recommend surgery- because that's what they do- surgery. It may not work for everyone, but in my case digging a little deeper after that 1st opinion and researching my conditions and alternative treatments has helped me avoid unnecessary life altering surgeries multiple times now and we have to be our own best advocates for our care and with internet access to the best information from reputable organizations like Mayo, John's Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic, etc. takes a lot of fear and guess work out of navigating through even complex health diagnosis to understand what is truly going on and make my smartest informed decisions. This may not work for everyone in every situation, but it guided me well in decision making in some really stressful situations when it seemed confusing and depressing at 1st.
Good luck to all and stay strong 💪
That’s painting with broad brush. In my last two experiences it’s the exact opposite, surgeons tried everything they could before recommending surgery. In the case of the nerve damage surgery I just had it was a multi year process before surgery was recommended and only after the neurologist said it was the only way to fix the problem. I’ve still got foot problems from when I broke it 20 years ago all my Doctors since then have said the bones could be fused together but only if the pain from the arthritis becomes completely unbearable. They all say it would affect the way I walk and could lead to bigger problems with hips and knees. So far none of the Doctors or surgeons have said get surgery for it.
that's awesome you are getting the proper care you need and deserve! Mine wasn't the best stuck in Kaiser Permanente and Sharp Rees Stealy HMOs but I never knew any different until landing with that Sports Medicine specialist for my Primary Care Dr. in UCSD system. Stayed with him from 1995 until we relocated to SW CO in 2017. Experiences seem to vary widely from person to person.
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