Intercoms in the helmets is a bad idea

I'm not sure how this is even a talking point it's a dumb idea. The amount of time I feel that people have put into thinking about this is embarrassing that they think it will work. 100% guarantee Vince or someone would just ignore the warning that they are getting lapped. 

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3/13/2026 12:16pm

We definitely needed another thread on this 

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Sweet. I like the color blue.

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Dang, I can’t believe no one has talked about this before. Great idea for a thread OP!

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Here we go again…..this shit of being too lazy to look and see if there is another thread(s) on the same fucking subject….come on man….

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'100% guarantee Vince or someone would just ignore the warning that they are getting lapped. ' How is this even a counterargument against intercoms? They could ignore any warning it doesn’t matter what you use. That doesnt have to do with the system being used at all lol

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It would be annoying to have someone talking to me while I'm in flow state.

It would be like a musician being talked to while laying down a sweet guitar solo.

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3/13/2026 1:09pm
aeffertz wrote:

Dang, I can’t believe no one has talked about this before. Great idea for a thread OP!

No way I can't believe that no one beating a dead hose brought about this post about how it's a stupid idea and people should stop bringing it up ironic I know

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if you're going to start a new thread, at least make an actual argument. 

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Echoing Tyler, do you have any reasoning, logic or thoughts on this topic? Or do you just want people to agree with you, because you said it? 

Try much harder..

 

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3/13/2026 1:40pm
Gravel wrote:
Echoing Tyler, do you have any reasoning, logic or thoughts on this topic? Or do you just want people to agree with you, because you said...

Echoing Tyler, do you have any reasoning, logic or thoughts on this topic? Or do you just want people to agree with you, because you said it? 

Try much harder..

 

It's called creating rage engagement. I have a lot of thoughts on this topic ask away,but the only argument I have seen for them is to help the guys know what's coming they are professional they know how to look ahead 

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matze wrote:
'100% guarantee Vince or someone would just ignore the warning that they are getting lapped. ' How is this even a counterargument against intercoms? They could ignore...

'100% guarantee Vince or someone would just ignore the warning that they are getting lapped. ' How is this even a counterargument against intercoms? They could ignore any warning it doesn’t matter what you use. That doesnt have to do with the system being used at all lol

If abusers are going to ignore flags or ignore when they're being told to move over on comms, why spend a bunch of money and time on setting up comms only to be ignored? 

The true answer is...AMA needs to step up and actually enforce the blue flag rules and bust the abusers instead of continuously doing nothing. 

They've hired Jbone, Yogi and Willy Browing (maybe Willy's just amat, not sure?) to get their act together but seems to be the same old - same old and lately it's been even worse than usual. 

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matze wrote:
'100% guarantee Vince or someone would just ignore the warning that they are getting lapped. ' How is this even a counterargument against intercoms? They could ignore...

'100% guarantee Vince or someone would just ignore the warning that they are getting lapped. ' How is this even a counterargument against intercoms? They could ignore any warning it doesn’t matter what you use. That doesnt have to do with the system being used at all lol

mooch wrote:
If abusers are going to ignore flags or ignore when they're being told to move over on comms, why spend a bunch of money and time...

If abusers are going to ignore flags or ignore when they're being told to move over on comms, why spend a bunch of money and time on setting up comms only to be ignored? 

The true answer is...AMA needs to step up and actually enforce the blue flag rules and bust the abusers instead of continuously doing nothing. 

They've hired Jbone, Yogi and Willy Browing (maybe Willy's just amat, not sure?) to get their act together but seems to be the same old - same old and lately it's been even worse than usual. 

Yes 100% agree. If riders aren’t punished for ignoring blue flags, comms, or whatever system is being used, then the system itself is irrelevant. You need to make sure this is enforced first THEN you can think about how to make the warning clearer for the rider, beyond just a blue flag.

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matze wrote:
'100% guarantee Vince or someone would just ignore the warning that they are getting lapped. ' How is this even a counterargument against intercoms? They could ignore...

'100% guarantee Vince or someone would just ignore the warning that they are getting lapped. ' How is this even a counterargument against intercoms? They could ignore any warning it doesn’t matter what you use. That doesnt have to do with the system being used at all lol

mooch wrote:
If abusers are going to ignore flags or ignore when they're being told to move over on comms, why spend a bunch of money and time...

If abusers are going to ignore flags or ignore when they're being told to move over on comms, why spend a bunch of money and time on setting up comms only to be ignored? 

The true answer is...AMA needs to step up and actually enforce the blue flag rules and bust the abusers instead of continuously doing nothing. 

They've hired Jbone, Yogi and Willy Browing (maybe Willy's just amat, not sure?) to get their act together but seems to be the same old - same old and lately it's been even worse than usual. 

matze wrote:
Yes 100% agree. If riders aren’t punished for ignoring blue flags, comms, or whatever system is being used, then the system itself is irrelevant. You need...

Yes 100% agree. If riders aren’t punished for ignoring blue flags, comms, or whatever system is being used, then the system itself is irrelevant. You need to make sure this is enforced first THEN you can think about how to make the warning clearer for the rider, beyond just a blue flag.

That's my whole point this whole topic should be dead but for some reason some people continue to think it will fix something. Most of the guys would tune it out and if a malfunction were to happen where they can't hear anything and get penalized because of it what's the solution then it just creates more problems than the minor ones it possibly might fix I see no pros to having them. I think they would get some good content with the mic in some guys helmet but feld isn't that creative with what they do.

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3/13/2026 2:26pm
DonM wrote:

Here we go again…..this shit of being too lazy to look and see if there is another thread(s) on the same fucking subject….come on man….

Maybe Vital members should have comms to talk to each other about these duplicate threads so we don't start extras. OR you could just pay attention and see the extra threads so we don't need comms. Just like how the riders should be paying attention to the red cross flag, the caution lights, and the BLUE FLAGS WAVING VINCE FREEZER...

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That's my whole point this whole topic should be dead but for some reason some people continue to think it will fix something. Most of the...

That's my whole point this whole topic should be dead but for some reason some people continue to think it will fix something. Most of the guys would tune it out and if a malfunction were to happen where they can't hear anything and get penalized because of it what's the solution then it just creates more problems than the minor ones it possibly might fix I see no pros to having them. I think they would get some good content with the mic in some guys helmet but feld isn't that creative with what they do.

‘Intercoms is a bad idea…’
‘I see no problem in having them’
Huh?

I’m not for them necessarily, and definitely wouldn’t be for them being used for race strategy at all. But riders wouldn’t really have any recourse if they were told through a radio to get out of the way. 

The blue flag system is broken, the flaggers aren’t aware of what/when to flag so the riders largely ignore them. Just last week the flag was being waved as the leaders went by with no lappers in sight.  I don’t think anyone considers that it might be difficult for some flaggers to see the track well depending where they are stationed so following leaders as they move through lappers might be challenging and I doubt they are well compensated so the dedication might not be as serious as we wish. 

The system should be electronic imo. We are using lights on the track in place of flaggers, imo this could be further developed to include blue lights for lappers and a light on the handlebars or front fender. 

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3/13/2026 4:57pm
That's my whole point this whole topic should be dead but for some reason some people continue to think it will fix something. Most of the...

That's my whole point this whole topic should be dead but for some reason some people continue to think it will fix something. Most of the guys would tune it out and if a malfunction were to happen where they can't hear anything and get penalized because of it what's the solution then it just creates more problems than the minor ones it possibly might fix I see no pros to having them. I think they would get some good content with the mic in some guys helmet but feld isn't that creative with what they do.

soggy wrote:
‘Intercoms is a bad idea…’‘I see no problem in having them’Huh?I’m not for them necessarily, and definitely wouldn’t be for them being used for race strategy...

‘Intercoms is a bad idea…’
‘I see no problem in having them’
Huh?

I’m not for them necessarily, and definitely wouldn’t be for them being used for race strategy at all. But riders wouldn’t really have any recourse if they were told through a radio to get out of the way. 

The blue flag system is broken, the flaggers aren’t aware of what/when to flag so the riders largely ignore them. Just last week the flag was being waved as the leaders went by with no lappers in sight.  I don’t think anyone considers that it might be difficult for some flaggers to see the track well depending where they are stationed so following leaders as they move through lappers might be challenging and I doubt they are well compensated so the dedication might not be as serious as we wish. 

The system should be electronic imo. We are using lights on the track in place of flaggers, imo this could be further developed to include blue lights for lappers and a light on the handlebars or front fender. 

I think it would only hurt because it would just distract not give insight. The guys being lapped I am sure already know they are being lapped they just don't care to move the coms wouldn't fix anything only add more problems

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That's my whole point this whole topic should be dead but for some reason some people continue to think it will fix something. Most of the...

That's my whole point this whole topic should be dead but for some reason some people continue to think it will fix something. Most of the guys would tune it out and if a malfunction were to happen where they can't hear anything and get penalized because of it what's the solution then it just creates more problems than the minor ones it possibly might fix I see no pros to having them. I think they would get some good content with the mic in some guys helmet but feld isn't that creative with what they do.

soggy wrote:
‘Intercoms is a bad idea…’‘I see no problem in having them’Huh?I’m not for them necessarily, and definitely wouldn’t be for them being used for race strategy...

‘Intercoms is a bad idea…’
‘I see no problem in having them’
Huh?

I’m not for them necessarily, and definitely wouldn’t be for them being used for race strategy at all. But riders wouldn’t really have any recourse if they were told through a radio to get out of the way. 

The blue flag system is broken, the flaggers aren’t aware of what/when to flag so the riders largely ignore them. Just last week the flag was being waved as the leaders went by with no lappers in sight.  I don’t think anyone considers that it might be difficult for some flaggers to see the track well depending where they are stationed so following leaders as they move through lappers might be challenging and I doubt they are well compensated so the dedication might not be as serious as we wish. 

The system should be electronic imo. We are using lights on the track in place of flaggers, imo this could be further developed to include blue lights for lappers and a light on the handlebars or front fender. 

I think it would only hurt because it would just distract not give insight. The guys being lapped I am sure already know they are being...

I think it would only hurt because it would just distract not give insight. The guys being lapped I am sure already know they are being lapped they just don't care to move the coms wouldn't fix anything only add more problems

You’re off to a great start here….

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soggy wrote:
‘Intercoms is a bad idea…’‘I see no problem in having them’Huh?I’m not for them necessarily, and definitely wouldn’t be for them being used for race strategy...

‘Intercoms is a bad idea…’
‘I see no problem in having them’
Huh?

I’m not for them necessarily, and definitely wouldn’t be for them being used for race strategy at all. But riders wouldn’t really have any recourse if they were told through a radio to get out of the way. 

The blue flag system is broken, the flaggers aren’t aware of what/when to flag so the riders largely ignore them. Just last week the flag was being waved as the leaders went by with no lappers in sight.  I don’t think anyone considers that it might be difficult for some flaggers to see the track well depending where they are stationed so following leaders as they move through lappers might be challenging and I doubt they are well compensated so the dedication might not be as serious as we wish. 

The system should be electronic imo. We are using lights on the track in place of flaggers, imo this could be further developed to include blue lights for lappers and a light on the handlebars or front fender. 

I think it would only hurt because it would just distract not give insight. The guys being lapped I am sure already know they are being...

I think it would only hurt because it would just distract not give insight. The guys being lapped I am sure already know they are being lapped they just don't care to move the coms wouldn't fix anything only add more problems

DonM wrote:

You’re off to a great start here….

Great insight you must be the smartest person on vital 

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I think it would only hurt because it would just distract not give insight. The guys being lapped I am sure already know they are being...

I think it would only hurt because it would just distract not give insight. The guys being lapped I am sure already know they are being lapped they just don't care to move the coms wouldn't fix anything only add more problems

DonM wrote:

You’re off to a great start here….

Great insight you must be the smartest person on vital 

One only has to read the reply’s, responses and downvotes to your posts to see what kind of start you have had on here….it’s not rocket surgery…Moran…

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Oh Amherst

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Oh Amherst

100% downvote ratio is hilarious and impressive. Vital hasn’t had this kind of consensus since dinosaurs roamed the earth. 

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3/14/2026 11:45am
DonM wrote:

You’re off to a great start here….

Great insight you must be the smartest person on vital 

DonM wrote:
One only has to read the reply’s, responses and downvotes to your posts to see what kind of start you have had on here….it’s not rocket...

One only has to read the reply’s, responses and downvotes to your posts to see what kind of start you have had on here….it’s not rocket surgery…Moran…

You're the most miserable person I have ever seen on here that's kinda impressive actually 

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3/14/2026 11:47am
disbanded wrote:

Oh Amherst

soggy wrote:

100% downvote ratio is hilarious and impressive. Vital hasn’t had this kind of consensus since dinosaurs roamed the earth. 

Not here for votes m just glad I could bring you all together for the dumbest suggestion I have ever seen for this sport 

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Great insight you must be the smartest person on vital 

DonM wrote:
One only has to read the reply’s, responses and downvotes to your posts to see what kind of start you have had on here….it’s not rocket...

One only has to read the reply’s, responses and downvotes to your posts to see what kind of start you have had on here….it’s not rocket surgery…Moran…

You're the most miserable person I have ever seen on here that's kinda impressive actually 

     LOL!!….your mirror is broken princess…seriously man you’ve got issues…not sure how you came to that conclusion but whatever…100% downvotes and you still don’t seem to get it…

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Maybe we should just stop posting in this thread and let it fade into Bolivian..  become ancient water under the fridge.. 

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Seems like it could be distracting.

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3/19/2026 2:02pm Edited Date/Time 3/19/2026 2:03pm

The AMA should increase the volume by 5db for every second that the lapper doesn't give way.    

The SMX license points should go to increasing the rider's speaker volume,  for every license point your speaker starts 5db higher.

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