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Edited Date/Time 2/8/2026 8:03am

I think they should go to a 3 row start.

First row 6 riders

Second 2 rows 8 riders


Fastest in qualifying gets rewarded with a good gate 

Top 3 in each heat would get front row gate picks for the mains


Other benefits

Reduced first turn wrecks , reduced early lap massive wrecks over rhythms by sorting by speed and spreading out the field a touch

Would gain an entire extra lane in sx leading to longer and better tracks with less wear and would reduced the lappers by having 15% longer lap times.


Better racing by getting the top 6 out front safely together more often. Instead of 1-2 top riders nailing the start and the next 2-5 contenders being buried, or seasons ruined by a lapper who holds it wfo and folds the front…


It would actually make gate pick and qualifying matter. They try to convince us all night how much gate picks matter and time and time again it’s proven to just not matter.


So many benefits.

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idk man id much rather have 1st gate pick then last. It definitely matters...

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Nah…its good as is

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Time % for qualifying. No spodes!

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2/8/2026 9:22am Edited Date/Time 2/8/2026 9:22am

I don't like that squid dejour gets to line up next to a winner and effect their start.  I'd love to see a 10 or 12 man main.  I know there is not enough time for a B main, but that's what I'd like.  

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No.

Remove starting devices and grates though.

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adastramx wrote:
I don't like that squid dejour gets to line up next to a winner and effect their start.  I'd love to see a 10 or 12...

I don't like that squid dejour gets to line up next to a winner and effect their start.  I'd love to see a 10 or 12 man main.  I know there is not enough time for a B main, but that's what I'd like.  

Bingo lappers time after time fuck the entire race before the second corner…

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loftyair wrote:

Time % for qualifying. No spodes!

I agree.   Timed qualifying blows the way it is now.   The track breaks down as the day goes on and laps tend to get slower.   Then they prep it right before 'B' or 'C' qualifying and somebody slower gets into the night show and bumps a faster guy out.   Even if they prep it before 'A' qualifying, then the 'B' and 'C' riders have absolutely no chance.

OR go back to qualifying races.

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loftyair wrote:

Time % for qualifying. No spodes!

mxrose3 wrote:
I agree.   Timed qualifying blows the way it is now.   The track breaks down as the day goes on and laps tend to get...

I agree.   Timed qualifying blows the way it is now.   The track breaks down as the day goes on and laps tend to get slower.   Then they prep it right before 'B' or 'C' qualifying and somebody slower gets into the night show and bumps a faster guy out.   Even if they prep it before 'A' qualifying, then the 'B' and 'C' riders have absolutely no chance.

OR go back to qualifying races.

When did they change it where it’s prepped before b and c riders? Or are you speaking how they do it after every rotation? 450 c is the hardest to qualify from as the track is smoked. 

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30minmotos wrote:
I think they should go to a 3 row start.First row 6 ridersSecond 2 rows 8 ridersFastest in qualifying gets rewarded with a good gate Top 3...

I think they should go to a 3 row start.

First row 6 riders

Second 2 rows 8 riders


Fastest in qualifying gets rewarded with a good gate 

Top 3 in each heat would get front row gate picks for the mains


Other benefits

Reduced first turn wrecks , reduced early lap massive wrecks over rhythms by sorting by speed and spreading out the field a touch

Would gain an entire extra lane in sx leading to longer and better tracks with less wear and would reduced the lappers by having 15% longer lap times.


Better racing by getting the top 6 out front safely together more often. Instead of 1-2 top riders nailing the start and the next 2-5 contenders being buried, or seasons ruined by a lapper who holds it wfo and folds the front…


It would actually make gate pick and qualifying matter. They try to convince us all night how much gate picks matter and time and time again it’s proven to just not matter.


So many benefits.

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They need smaller main gates, cut the amount of riders down.

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30minmotos wrote:
I think they should go to a 3 row start.First row 6 ridersSecond 2 rows 8 ridersFastest in qualifying gets rewarded with a good gate Top 3...

I think they should go to a 3 row start.

First row 6 riders

Second 2 rows 8 riders


Fastest in qualifying gets rewarded with a good gate 

Top 3 in each heat would get front row gate picks for the mains


Other benefits

Reduced first turn wrecks , reduced early lap massive wrecks over rhythms by sorting by speed and spreading out the field a touch

Would gain an entire extra lane in sx leading to longer and better tracks with less wear and would reduced the lappers by having 15% longer lap times.


Better racing by getting the top 6 out front safely together more often. Instead of 1-2 top riders nailing the start and the next 2-5 contenders being buried, or seasons ruined by a lapper who holds it wfo and folds the front…


It would actually make gate pick and qualifying matter. They try to convince us all night how much gate picks matter and time and time again it’s proven to just not matter.


So many benefits.

Cool Idea.

But I think the fair method would be half a bike lenght staggered start.

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We do Grid starts in Supermoto and its dangerous as fuck with wide bars on , 12 rows of 4 tearing down into turn 1, no room for error, everyone at the back is trying to get into and thorough the row in front, even on really short starts , and its a recipe for disaster. 

It isnt broken, its the sport. Leave it alone. 

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Why is it that we always get a few rounds into the SX season, and without fail we get a rash of threads like this. . .

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I would absolutely hate to see your version of supercross

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30minmotos wrote:
I think they should go to a 3 row start.First row 6 ridersSecond 2 rows 8 ridersFastest in qualifying gets rewarded with a good gate Top 3...

I think they should go to a 3 row start.

First row 6 riders

Second 2 rows 8 riders


Fastest in qualifying gets rewarded with a good gate 

Top 3 in each heat would get front row gate picks for the mains


Other benefits

Reduced first turn wrecks , reduced early lap massive wrecks over rhythms by sorting by speed and spreading out the field a touch

Would gain an entire extra lane in sx leading to longer and better tracks with less wear and would reduced the lappers by having 15% longer lap times.


Better racing by getting the top 6 out front safely together more often. Instead of 1-2 top riders nailing the start and the next 2-5 contenders being buried, or seasons ruined by a lapper who holds it wfo and folds the front…


It would actually make gate pick and qualifying matter. They try to convince us all night how much gate picks matter and time and time again it’s proven to just not matter.


So many benefits.

Aquafresh wrote:

Cool Idea.

But I think the fair method would be half a bike lenght staggered start.

Down with that too. Getting an extra lane of race track would be cool tho so that’s where the 2-3 row grid would come in.

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I would absolutely hate to see your version of supercross

Yeah 40 second lap times are way cooler…

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JM485 wrote:
Why is it that we always get a few rounds into the SX season, and without fail we get a rash of threads like this....

Why is it that we always get a few rounds into the SX season, and without fail we get a rash of threads like this. . .

Pretty sure it has to do with how their hero is doing at that point....but trying to turn SX into arenacross is not an answer...

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JM485 wrote:
Why is it that we always get a few rounds into the SX season, and without fail we get a rash of threads like this....

Why is it that we always get a few rounds into the SX season, and without fail we get a rash of threads like this. . .

DonM wrote:

Pretty sure it has to do with how their hero is doing at that point....but trying to turn SX into arenacross is not an answer...

i guess you prefer demolition derby to racing…

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JM485 wrote:
Why is it that we always get a few rounds into the SX season, and without fail we get a rash of threads like this....

Why is it that we always get a few rounds into the SX season, and without fail we get a rash of threads like this. . .

DonM wrote:

Pretty sure it has to do with how their hero is doing at that point....but trying to turn SX into arenacross is not an answer...

30minmotos wrote:

i guess you prefer demolition derby to racing…

No I prefer real racing with full gates ....and three riders going down in the first turn isn't a demolition derby...your idea is as dumb as 15-20 rider gates in MXGP...

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DonM wrote:

Pretty sure it has to do with how their hero is doing at that point....but trying to turn SX into arenacross is not an answer...

30minmotos wrote:

i guess you prefer demolition derby to racing…

DonM wrote:
No I prefer real racing with full gates ....and three riders going down in the first turn isn't a demolition derby...your idea is as dumb as...

No I prefer real racing with full gates ....and three riders going down in the first turn isn't a demolition derby...your idea is as dumb as 15-20 rider gates in MXGP...

15-20 top guys in mxgp doesn’t take a single thing away compared to ama with 25-30 lappers…

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30minmotos wrote:

i guess you prefer demolition derby to racing…

DonM wrote:
No I prefer real racing with full gates ....and three riders going down in the first turn isn't a demolition derby...your idea is as dumb as...

No I prefer real racing with full gates ....and three riders going down in the first turn isn't a demolition derby...your idea is as dumb as 15-20 rider gates in MXGP...

30minmotos wrote:

15-20 top guys in mxgp doesn’t take a single thing away compared to ama with 25-30 lappers…

Yeah coming back from a bad start or 1st lap crash/mistake is so much more difficult and challenging coming through a pack of 15 compared to a full gate of 40.....Agree to disagree have a nice day....

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DonM wrote:
No I prefer real racing with full gates ....and three riders going down in the first turn isn't a demolition derby...your idea is as dumb as...

No I prefer real racing with full gates ....and three riders going down in the first turn isn't a demolition derby...your idea is as dumb as 15-20 rider gates in MXGP...

30minmotos wrote:

15-20 top guys in mxgp doesn’t take a single thing away compared to ama with 25-30 lappers…

DonM wrote:
Yeah coming back from a bad start or 1st lap crash/mistake is so much more difficult and challenging coming through a pack of 15 compared to...

Yeah coming back from a bad start or 1st lap crash/mistake is so much more difficult and challenging coming through a pack of 15 compared to a full gate of 40.....Agree to disagree have a nice day....

So what the final 25-30 ama riders provide is road block? That’s a fascinating addition.

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30minmotos wrote:

15-20 top guys in mxgp doesn’t take a single thing away compared to ama with 25-30 lappers…

DonM wrote:
Yeah coming back from a bad start or 1st lap crash/mistake is so much more difficult and challenging coming through a pack of 15 compared to...

Yeah coming back from a bad start or 1st lap crash/mistake is so much more difficult and challenging coming through a pack of 15 compared to a full gate of 40.....Agree to disagree have a nice day....

30minmotos wrote:

So what the final 25-30 ama riders provide is road block? That’s a fascinating addition.

I suggest if you don't like it don't watch it....

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2/8/2026 12:37pm Edited Date/Time 2/8/2026 2:10pm
loftyair wrote:

Time % for qualifying. No spodes!

mxrose3 wrote:
I agree.   Timed qualifying blows the way it is now.   The track breaks down as the day goes on and laps tend to get...

I agree.   Timed qualifying blows the way it is now.   The track breaks down as the day goes on and laps tend to get slower.   Then they prep it right before 'B' or 'C' qualifying and somebody slower gets into the night show and bumps a faster guy out.   Even if they prep it before 'A' qualifying, then the 'B' and 'C' riders have absolutely no chance.

OR go back to qualifying races.

jmo443 wrote:
When did they change it where it’s prepped before b and c riders? Or are you speaking how they do it after every rotation? 450 c...

When did they change it where it’s prepped before b and c riders? Or are you speaking how they do it after every rotation? 450 c is the hardest to qualify from as the track is smoked. 

I've seen them prep the track before 250 B or C before.   Between timed qualifying session rotations.

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30minmotos wrote:
I think they should go to a 3 row start.First row 6 ridersSecond 2 rows 8 ridersFastest in qualifying gets rewarded with a good gate Top 3...

I think they should go to a 3 row start.

First row 6 riders

Second 2 rows 8 riders


Fastest in qualifying gets rewarded with a good gate 

Top 3 in each heat would get front row gate picks for the mains


Other benefits

Reduced first turn wrecks , reduced early lap massive wrecks over rhythms by sorting by speed and spreading out the field a touch

Would gain an entire extra lane in sx leading to longer and better tracks with less wear and would reduced the lappers by having 15% longer lap times.


Better racing by getting the top 6 out front safely together more often. Instead of 1-2 top riders nailing the start and the next 2-5 contenders being buried, or seasons ruined by a lapper who holds it wfo and folds the front…


It would actually make gate pick and qualifying matter. They try to convince us all night how much gate picks matter and time and time again it’s proven to just not matter.


So many benefits.

I would consider the idea of a 2 row (10 gate) start, but 3 rows is a bit excessive IMO.   I don't want it to be nascar.

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Let’s add a loop-de-loop that the leader has to do while we’re at it 

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I don't mind the idea of a 2 row start 🤷 It would make the heats actually fucking matter for once. Not saying let's immediately set it in stone, but it would eliminate a lot of snoozer mains and the stakes are higher in the heats, and the tracks would be better not having to have that much wasted space.

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2/8/2026 10:27pm

To lessen first turn pileups, we need fewer riders to reach the first turn at the same time.

The way to do this is simple. 3 rules.

1. No grates. Dirt only.

2. No holeshot devices, even if embedded within the forks.

3. Riders can use only one ECU map per race.  You can't have a starting map, and a racing map, or change the map at all within the race. You have to choose one.

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