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Great point early, I think no country does better. I believe this is a great nation, made of great people. But I also believe the citizens of this country value perceived safety and fairness far more than opportunity and freedom, quite unlike their ancestors. I think the laws and regulations people support demonstrate this. Covid shut this nation down, people stayed home, most agreed with this policy. The Spanish flu of 1918, equally if not more dangerous, did not shut us down in a similar fashion. Just one example of course. People want equality of outcome not equality of opportunity.
Certainly. That's why I'm for less government, not more, and why you have to think of it in terms of what is the least bad option? Neither party in this country has shown any restraint on size or scope of government since Reagan was in office. I wish both sides could agree to peel back some of government's reach but instead it's just turned into each side grabbing as much power and reach as they can for their side when they have the chance.
That's also why you have to think about government in terms of 'what is the least bad option?' I think it's clear that democracy and capitalism are the least bad option despite their flaws and limitations. Pointing out that there are losers in this system doesn't change the fact that those losers have zero desire to go give it a try under a different system and the losers in the other systems are desperate to get here to give it a try. A lot of immigration history would say that our system is the least bad option.
I think most people want a smaller government, but on the other hand everybody wants somebody to do something about every little concern.
I see where we disagree,
I think there's too much government / industry partnership for us to consider the US a capitalist economy at the moment.
Can you think of an example of any exchange of goods or services that doesn't involve the government?
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I'm in healthcare I promise you we agree on this one. There's not much deregulation I wouldn't support. Would also support most anything that prevents politicians from getting rich trading stocks or serving on boards or regulating fields they will go back to work in after their term. If you want to be a public servant you should be fairly compensated for it but it shouldn't be an easy path to becoming a millionaire. It's a mess but we're still a capitalistic economy more than anything else though.
So much (unintended ) humor in this thread, thank you one & all !
As to the question ; examples to the contrary are virtually limitless - when was the last time anyone collected sales tax on the sale of say .. a used motocross bike ?
Virtually all private sales are just that ; private.
It's only when a dealer or intermediary ( Amazon, eBay, et, al ) gets involved, or when the item is intended to be road registered that the premise holds up.
Unless I'm missing something ?
If this is becoming a thread on the black market economy, that is something else altogether. Some estimate it is 20 - 25% of our nations economy. Not to mention socialist, or communist countries. Again, a sign of too big of government?
Now there’s someone that needs to get a job
Lots of things have been tried before, some work, some don't. It's worth looking at how these kind of fundamental issues are dealt with geographically and historically, they aren't problems unique to the US.
Man, If it is a tradition they have I won’t knock it. I still check my 22yo son over on the line if we aren’t racing at the same time.
What kind of questions are you asking that you find out that people are living with their parents? I’ve conducted literally thousands of interviews over my career and I don’t ever recall anything like that being discussed, but you’re hearing it all the time?
Thanks for playing along.
Someone had to pay sales tax on the motocross bike when it was new.
Someone would have been able to buy more motocross bikes if their income wasn't taxed.
The manufacturing/assembly plant had to pay tax on their employees and property.
Throw in subsides, tariffs, and govt contracts...........and I don't think any exchange of goods is untouched.
Even illegal transactions incur a hidden tax because the risk is factored in to the final cost.
Now THATS an extrapolative perspective !
Such a level of abstract thinking not only serves as a distinguishing factor, it also makes one uniquely qualified for a career as a .. ( you're gonna love this ) .. Bureaucrat.
What if a bird shits a seed in my yard and it grows into a tomato plant and I sell some of the tomatoes to my neighbor for a $10 bill that he found on the sidewalk, good? lol
You realize that the bird at some point sat in a tree that was located on land that owed property tax ...
The seller of the $10 tomato would be sued for stealing the GMO seed which is the intellectual property of a seed company.
Though the bird actually stole and shit the seed out on the mans land he is held responsible for harboring an environment that welcomes the bird and or not doing due diligence on the origin of the tomato plant.
Next thing you know the seller of the stolen seed technology will be selling defense secrets. Its a pretty clear path.
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Unless it was a bioengineered tomato seed, most of them are,.
Agri-businesses receive billions annually of our tax money, they call it success when they create and propagate food crops that still look edible after: growing them in poisons, picking ripe, shipped and stored for weeks to months, and coating with petroleum and antibiotics (to inhibit mold).
If you're lucky enough to score a natural tomato seed/plant, your neighbor committed tax fraud because he's supposed to report any found money as taxable income.
🤣 nailed it
Well son of a bitch
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Indeed, the takeaway here after ten pages ; Birds are unworthy of our trust.
How many bird shit seed tomatoes can you sell before you have to report the income?
"You mean we're smoking dogshit, man?"
The guy has a job .
He fixes lawn mowers , machines, power engines and other small motors that most “ working “ Americans are too lazy and ignorant to drain the fuel out of . They must be tired from working and paying so many taxes .
I mentioned them because of the Geo metro - but way to be a dick .
I don’t have any respect for a guy that puts his son in danger like he does. That whole setup is a rolling death trap.
And judging from the condition of the kids equipment, I wouldn’t let him touch my wheel barrow.
Leave it to Vital to create a new variety of tomatoes from a thread about a kid who doesn't buckle his own helmet....
But I have to admit, "bird shit seed tomatoes" does have a catchy marketing name.
So your driving a convertible geo metro?
Wait so what this have to do with a helmet buckle? Who buckles yours each morning before you get out of bed? Is it lined in tinfoil?
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