So who is the AM that doesn’t buckle their own helmet?

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LOL...Like I said, everything is sooo fkng tough today. Ever live on $5/hr? I worked full time fixing sewing machines and vacuums as a kid and...

LOL...Like I said, everything is sooo fkng tough today. Ever live on $5/hr? I worked full time fixing sewing machines and vacuums as a kid and through college as a FT off campus student. My GF/wife also contributed, but we lived lean...REALLY lean, just to only hopefully end up broke each month. $500 car (we had one car worth $500), $400/mo rent (I think). We didn't have a cel phone, big TV, cable/satellite service or $10 coffees. We weremt fkng stupid with money. People claim to have it tough and yet they spend $500/mo on their TV and cel phone alone. Plus they want a $50k car. I had No motorcycle...nothing at the time. My first job out of college was as a fed aufitor at $19k a year. We bought a $60k house a year later (3x my salary). Now, people make 3-4 times what I started at. Plus, we moved to where the money was several times so I could make more at CPA firms. We didn't sit on our ass and complain and look for mommy and daddy hand outs.

Spoonguy wrote:

If Ford sold Raptors 35 years ago nobody would've bought them.

MOTO13 wrote:
Exactly. Excellent point. I never even considered a new vehicle. A Raptor BITD would have been laughable to even build, nobody would be dumb enough to...

Exactly. Excellent point. I never even considered a new vehicle. A Raptor BITD would have been laughable to even build, nobody would be dumb enough to buy it. People were smarter with money then it seems and looked long term. Nobody carried debt. Even as a kiid, I never knew my parents to be in debt for anything. I hate debt. To this day, I have a 2014 Chevy Cruze diesel and a 2008 Chevy Silverado. 

Yeah, bottled water, Starbucks..   

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1/22/2026 7:51am

So who’s the rider that can’t buckle there helmet 

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Buying a house a year out of college is wild. How did you get approved for that loan?  You probably needed like $10k for down payment...

Buying a house a year out of college is wild. How did you get approved for that loan?  You probably needed like $10k for down payment and closing costs?   

Spoonguy wrote:
My kids worked full time through college, it was hard, but they bought a house out of college. It can be done, but it is hard...

My kids worked full time through college, it was hard, but they bought a house out of college. It can be done, but it is hard. It can not be done if you are dumb though, which many people who are have a hard time admitting that they are.

Lentz197 wrote:

timing is everything with buying a house too though. right now the timing is terrible even if you do have the money. 

Suppose you are right. Where we live we do not have big fluctuations in home values.

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Money wrote:

So who’s the rider that can’t buckle there helmet 

Kris Keefer

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"Healthy work - life balance" is one of those new phrases we have been privy to isn't it. Much like the phrases "gaming" or "triggering" or...

"Healthy work - life balance" is one of those new phrases we have been privy to isn't it. Much like the phrases "gaming" or "triggering" or "safe space". Probably in the last 20 years or so. I really don't recall any grown man giving a shit about that until recently. My kids are predators of the sect that needs " healthy work - life balance" scooping up hours the like can' t handle and banking the overtime. Of course Grandma always had a day to get her hair done back in the day, so there is that. So I get some need "me time" for mental health, kind of like emotional support dogs - another new thing.

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Sounds like your view of the world is shaped by influencers,   I can't read your comments without hearing Bill Oreilly's voice.Good luck with all your...

Sounds like your view of the world is shaped by influencers,   I can't read your comments without hearing Bill Oreilly's voice.

Good luck with all your facebook arguments this week! I hope your other retired friends finally give up and join your political media team.

Spoonguy wrote:

Yeah, no. I don't even know what an "influencer" does, and Oreilly is a windbag. People do develop opinions based on obvious observations.

If I had the opportunity to buy a Ford Super Duty for 23K and a 2000 sg ft house for 73K, I wouldn't act the way you guys act. 

 

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Sounds like your view of the world is shaped by influencers,   I can't read your comments without hearing Bill Oreilly's voice.Good luck with all your...

Sounds like your view of the world is shaped by influencers,   I can't read your comments without hearing Bill Oreilly's voice.

Good luck with all your facebook arguments this week! I hope your other retired friends finally give up and join your political media team.

Spoonguy wrote:

Yeah, no. I don't even know what an "influencer" does, and Oreilly is a windbag. People do develop opinions based on obvious observations.

Sandusky26 wrote:
If I had the opportunity to buy a Ford Super Duty for 23K and a 2000 sg ft house for 73K, I wouldn't act the way...

If I had the opportunity to buy a Ford Super Duty for 23K and a 2000 sg ft house for 73K, I wouldn't act the way you guys act. 

 

If you want a truck with 1990 capability you can find it for much less than 20k and here's a house for you. That life you long for is there for the taking! 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1313-Proctor-St-Rocky-Mount-NC-27801…

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Spoonguy wrote:

Yeah, no. I don't even know what an "influencer" does, and Oreilly is a windbag. People do develop opinions based on obvious observations.

Sandusky26 wrote:
If I had the opportunity to buy a Ford Super Duty for 23K and a 2000 sg ft house for 73K, I wouldn't act the way...

If I had the opportunity to buy a Ford Super Duty for 23K and a 2000 sg ft house for 73K, I wouldn't act the way you guys act. 

 

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If you want a truck with 1990 capability you can find it for much less than 20k and here's a house for you. That life you...

If you want a truck with 1990 capability you can find it for much less than 20k and here's a house for you. That life you long for is there for the taking! 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1313-Proctor-St-Rocky-Mount-NC-27801…

Hell yeah tell your father in-law to hook me up the same as you and I'm down.

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Spoonguy wrote:

Suppose you are right. Where we live we do not have big fluctuations in home values.

Even modest houses have significantly increased in price. Here's a house in Erie, sold in 2021 for $65k, now 5 years later they are asking over $150k for it with no significant improvements. Are people making 2x what they were making 5 years ago? Sure this is a relatively cheap house but the trend stands for all houses.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2716-Raspberry-St-Erie-PA-16508/52586070_zpid/?utm_campaign=androidappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

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Went to Vital to figure out who can't buckle their helmet, getting career and home-buying advice instead. 

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KurtJ99 wrote:

Went to Vital to figure out who can't buckle their helmet, getting career and home-buying advice instead. 

Some guys take major offense when we discuss houses, dirt bikes, and truck were cheaper back in the day.

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1/22/2026 9:57am
Spoonguy wrote:

Suppose you are right. Where we live we do not have big fluctuations in home values.

early wrote:
Even modest houses have significantly increased in price. Here's a house in Erie, sold in 2021 for $65k, now 5 years later they are asking over...

Even modest houses have significantly increased in price. Here's a house in Erie, sold in 2021 for $65k, now 5 years later they are asking over $150k for it with no significant improvements. Are people making 2x what they were making 5 years ago? Sure this is a relatively cheap house but the trend stands for all houses.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2716-Raspberry-St-Erie-PA-16508/52586070_zpid/?utm_campaign=androidappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

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Truck will be here soon with a link.

Buying a 150k house in 2026 is easier than buying a 65k house in 2023 if I understand his logic correctly.

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Sandusky26 wrote:
Truck will be here soon with a link.Buying a 150k house in 2026 is easier than buying a 65k house in 2023 if I understand his...

Truck will be here soon with a link.

Buying a 150k house in 2026 is easier than buying a 65k house in 2023 if I understand his logic correctly.

Put the iPad down and pull up the bootstraps LIBRUL

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1/22/2026 10:02am
Spoonguy wrote:

Suppose you are right. Where we live we do not have big fluctuations in home values.

early wrote:
Even modest houses have significantly increased in price. Here's a house in Erie, sold in 2021 for $65k, now 5 years later they are asking over...

Even modest houses have significantly increased in price. Here's a house in Erie, sold in 2021 for $65k, now 5 years later they are asking over $150k for it with no significant improvements. Are people making 2x what they were making 5 years ago? Sure this is a relatively cheap house but the trend stands for all houses.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2716-Raspberry-St-Erie-PA-16508/52586070_zpid/?utm_campaign=androidappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

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Yeah it’s nuts , in 98 I looked at a cute doll house with a 1 car garage separated with a 1+ acer backyard on the bay with  your own beach. House sold in 24 for 200k. I was paid .85 a week for working 7 days a week on a dairy farm in 76.  2 yrs later 85.00 a week, I bailed hay for a few farmers 60 bucks a day.  Bought my own cow at 12 yrs old for 400 bucks. Had the cash to buy a new RM80 at 12. My mom wouldn’t let me buy it. And I buckle my own helmet . I started working 7 days a week at 3 yrs old on the farm.  

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This thread sucks

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Don't buy that house, it is in the hood.

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KurtJ99 wrote:

Went to Vital to figure out who can't buckle their helmet, getting career and home-buying advice instead. 

Not so much advice as basically being told unless you're sacrificing every waking moment of your life to work and hustle you are a loser. The "I had to suffer, so you have to suffer too" mentality is pretty strong in here. There is nothing wrong with living with your family at any age/stage of your life. If you have a great relationship with your family, are contributing to the household, and its mutually beneficial then who cares? In every other part of the world kids stay in the house until they are married or they have multigenerational households where everyone takes care of each other. I'll never be a dick head who shames people for their living situation. 

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KurtJ99 wrote:

Went to Vital to figure out who can't buckle their helmet, getting career and home-buying advice instead. 

Sandusky26 wrote:

Some guys take major offense when we discuss houses, dirt bikes, and truck were cheaper back in the day.

Some guys take major offense when they find out owning a home and a nice vehicle isn't an entitlement and it isn't owed to anybody. It is reserved for the ambitious and intelligent.

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Sandusky26 wrote:
Truck will be here soon with a link.Buying a 150k house in 2026 is easier than buying a 65k house in 2023 if I understand his...

Truck will be here soon with a link.

Buying a 150k house in 2026 is easier than buying a 65k house in 2023 if I understand his logic correctly.

Put the iPad down and pull up the bootstraps LIBRUL

Probably waiting for his Dave Ramsey rice and beans to finish cooking. Or maybe its beans and rice day today instead of rice and beans? 

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Don't buy that house, it is in the hood.

Yeah it looks like it, any house under $200k today has something wrong with it. Here's a possibly non-ghetto example $170k in 2020, $290k now. Could you imagine paying $300k to come home to a house this ugly?!

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4911-Amy-Ave-Erie-PA-16504/9502937_zpid/?utm_campaign=androidappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

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was talking about this yesterday w/ the wife. We're new "empty-nesters" in our late 40s. We both were working like crazy at 18, moved out, sought...

was talking about this yesterday w/ the wife. We're new "empty-nesters" in our late 40s. We both were working like crazy at 18, moved out, sought independence, wanted nothing from our parents, etc. 

Now we have kids that are 19,20...and these kids are sitting around playing video games, no real interest in moving forward in life, and are wasting some of the best/most productive years of their lives despite she and I constantly hammering them with suggestions on moving forward. I told my mom yesterday "I guess it's our generation's fault, but I don't understand it."

My only conclusion is that they've been told their whole lives that they can make $1m making IG clips or something. I truly don't understand it.

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It's effing crazy. My oldest daughter got 5 distinctions when she finished high school. That is a monumental feat to pull off. Long story short, her...

It's effing crazy. My oldest daughter got 5 distinctions when she finished high school. That is a monumental feat to pull off. Long story short, her Aunty is a GP, a normal doctor and her Uncle is an Anaesthetist, they live in Sydney Australia. My daughter whilst in school always wanted to become a Veterinarian. Well, Aunty and Uncle offered (two years ago) for her to come live with them in Sydney and that they would pay for her to go to Varsity.

My daughter at the time was all keen and exited but said that she wanted to take a "gap year" to explore life and just to unwind, well, that was two years ago and now she has been through 3 different jobs and is now working as a receptionist for a hair salon. Her and her boyfriend Game at night and watch movies till well past midnight. She currently starts work at 9am.

My damn hair stands up when I think of the golden opportunity that she could lose if she doesn't wake up. 

Whenever I try to talk to her about it, my wife included, it doesn't turn out well. it is so frustrating.....ya know, you can take a horse to water but you can't make the bastard drink.

The youth of today are just different, social media, gaming, all about image..it is a effing crazy stupid world we live in now.

I do not have any answers.......

I wasn’t a good student by any stretch and I barely graduated high school on time. My family is all blue collar and nobody had a degree or was helping pay for anything. I was to concerned with chasing tail, riding moto and drinking beer in my twenties. I did concrete and raced as much as possible. I got offered a good job with good insurance and went after it to support racing. After a while I began to realize I fell into a good job through racing. When my back couldn’t handle it anymore and I was always an asshole. I decided to go back to school and got a mechanical engineering degree in the evenings. I worked full time and did school at night. My wife and I had two kids and school took my 8 years since I was part time. ( just graduated at 40). I’ve owned multiple homes including a rental which was my first home. Just wanted to point out a hobby you love will push you to greener pastures and make you realize things are good. There is still time to kick some ass in life and just because they are enjoying themselves now doesn’t mean they won’t figure it out when the time comes. 

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1/22/2026 10:31am
Spoonguy wrote:

Suppose you are right. Where we live we do not have big fluctuations in home values.

early wrote:
Even modest houses have significantly increased in price. Here's a house in Erie, sold in 2021 for $65k, now 5 years later they are asking over...

Even modest houses have significantly increased in price. Here's a house in Erie, sold in 2021 for $65k, now 5 years later they are asking over $150k for it with no significant improvements. Are people making 2x what they were making 5 years ago? Sure this is a relatively cheap house but the trend stands for all houses.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2716-Raspberry-St-Erie-PA-16508/52586070_zpid/?utm_campaign=androidappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

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Yeah it’s nuts , in 98 I looked at a cute doll house with a 1 car garage separated with a 1+ acer backyard on the...

Yeah it’s nuts , in 98 I looked at a cute doll house with a 1 car garage separated with a 1+ acer backyard on the bay with  your own beach. House sold in 24 for 200k. I was paid .85 a week for working 7 days a week on a dairy farm in 76.  2 yrs later 85.00 a week, I bailed hay for a few farmers 60 bucks a day.  Bought my own cow at 12 yrs old for 400 bucks. Had the cash to buy a new RM80 at 12. My mom wouldn’t let me buy it. And I buckle my own helmet . I started working 7 days a week at 3 yrs old on the farm.  

In 98 that doll house was 35k.  

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On that subject… Keefer mentioned a factory rider from Spain a few weeks ago that sat on his bike over 5 mins waiting for mechanic to...

On that subject… Keefer mentioned a factory rider from Spain a few weeks ago that sat on his bike over 5 mins waiting for mechanic to arrive.  Wonder who that was 😂

So he can blame the mechanic when it goes wrong...

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I'm not telling anyone what they should do, what they should value, where they should live, or anything of the sort. Do what you want to do, but don't bitch about not being able to afford things when your life is full of "necessities" and conveniences that didn't even exist in the time you point to as it being so easy, and stop comparing apples to whatever imported organic designer fruit you're having door dash bring you today. Plenty of people still "get it" and manage to find a way and they don't waste much energy blaming everyone else along the way. The reason many of you are bothered by this discussion is because you know damn well that I'm right but you also don't want to sacrifice. So yeah..... not going to get much sympathy from those who have in order to get the things they set out to get. 

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1/22/2026 10:43am

I guess E-start has eliminated the whole, " if you can't start it, you can't ride it" thing.

"If you cant fasten your helmet, you can't ride".

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We're here wasting a work day online, talking about how other people should be working harder to match our achievements.   
Round of applause for everyone involved

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It sometimes makes me cringe when I see on this site people taking out a loan for a new bike. I don't even know if a...

It sometimes makes me cringe when I see on this site people taking out a loan for a new bike. I don't even know if a bank would have approved a loan on an MX bike 20 or 30 years ago. But, bikes weren't $12,000 BITD also. My philosphy has always been, I have never been pissed off I didn't spend money in my life. That being said, I am also the financial genius with $50k in mountain bikes...so I've had my turn at financial idiocy as well. 

I took my first loan on a bike in 2004, when used wisely borrowing money is a great way to get big purchase items. Really if you have the money to pay cash you're an idiot for spending it instead of investing in the market. 

FYI, I've said it before but adjusted for inflation modern 450's are within a few hundred dollars of a top 250 2 stroke going back to the 70's. Bikes haven't gotten more expensive, it's all the other shit like trucks, trailers, rv's, phones...

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1/22/2026 11:08am

Holy shit. Boomer central in here. Yall checking out the white New Balances and C5 too? Only 40 make in green, manual and white interior, young guns.

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KurtJ99 wrote:

Went to Vital to figure out who can't buckle their helmet, getting career and home-buying advice instead. 

Sandusky26 wrote:

Some guys take major offense when we discuss houses, dirt bikes, and truck were cheaper back in the day.

Spoonguy wrote:
Some guys take major offense when they find out owning a home and a nice vehicle isn't an entitlement and it isn't owed to anybody. It...

Some guys take major offense when they find out owning a home and a nice vehicle isn't an entitlement and it isn't owed to anybody. It is reserved for the ambitious and intelligent.

I understand the down votes. Younger fellas need it easier than they have it now, it is just to hard now, right? Shame. The dudes that fought Vietnam and Desert storm have no idea how easy they had it.

 

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Holy shit. Boomer central in here. Yall checking out the white New Balances and C5 too? Only 40 make in green, manual and white interior, young...

Holy shit. Boomer central in here. Yall checking out the white New Balances and C5 too? Only 40 make in green, manual and white interior, young guns.

lol...maybe. I never liked the C5. I dig the C7 ZO6...wish I never would have sold mine. The new C8 ZO6 is sweetness though. 

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1/22/2026 11:31am

Screw the Mathess/Keefer life swap....Kris needs to do a life swap with the father of the kid who cant buckle his own helmet.

I bet Heather would straighten that guy out also.

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