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Prado took 7 races to podium in 450 SX , having never raced a 250.
Tomac took 9 , having had a full 250 career first.
Prado has won 28.5% of his heat races.
And something i didnt realise, was that Roczen won his first ever Supercross on a 450, at A1.
And the Kickstart on Kenny's 450 is probably the same one that was on the bike when it 'Daybooood' at A1 in 2005. But who was on it. ?
And while Tomac has become the second rider to win on 4 brands, the KTM win is his first time winning in his First AMA SX on the bike.
Max Anstie now has 4 250 Main wins against Deegan's 7. I would never have thought there was only 3 wins between them, and Deegan has never won A1.
Dude..you still have time to delete this nonsense.
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Facts hurt your feelings dude. ?
What bothers you so much?
Bingo.
Always forget about him on a Suzuki, same as Vuillemin on one.
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The general rule for human beings is that they really show who they are when conditions are the worst. And last year, Prado showed EXACTLY who he really is...and it ain't pretty.
According to me he won that supercross on a kawasaki
Listened to the pc podcast with Mitch in the background and it was nice to hear Mitch was pissed at prado.
But when those conditions are not of your making, what then?
Sexton already said there had been no development on the bike... yet Kawasaki said they did everything possible for Prado , and it wasnt enough , then apparently they found something big. Not all of these things can be true.
What a strange way of thinking. First of all, those conditions WERE of his making. He CHOOSE to go to Kawasaki. Secondly, adverse conditions reveal who a person is, whether those conditions were of their own making or were imposed by others or nature. It actually makes Prado look WORSE that Anderson and Tomac also rode for Kawasaki and DID THE BEST THEY COULD despite feeling their concerns were not being addressed. What they DID NOT do was act like whining, crying, spoiled little babies and roll around the track getting passed by privateers on lesser machinery.
Who cares. He took a job and hated it.
Job conditions sucked so he quit.
Keep it simple.
Appreciate the perspective. I also wonder what Kenny could have achieved had he not gotten hurt.
Start cross. what happens when he gets a bad start? does he muscle through it like the Dawg? we will C
Definitely not a podium with a bad start.
But he was last going into the first turn on the first start and was 12th 3/4 into the first lap when the red flag came out. Probably safe to say he would have gotten up to 6-8
Luckily for you he’s one of the best starters of all time, so you’ll get to see him up front a lot.
He did choose to go to Kawasaki ,because after 10 seasons with KTM, he wanted to go do something they didnt want him to do.
At that point, he would have had no inkling that there would be people in a team that would rather lose than win with something that isnt their idea.
Tomac left for that reason , Weimer's struggles are well documented , if the team do not , or will not do what it takes to make the rider happy, irrespective of what their own opinion is, then it is doomed to fail.
Adverse conditions that are manufactured by an unwillingness to change, are not the same as adverse conditions that nobody can fix, despite trying anything.
So when you ask for something that will improve your ability to deliver , and it doesnt happen , at what point do you keep risking your life in the face of that.
What you need to understand, is how bad do you think it would have had to be to , to get to that level.
Since we all know what OP is trying to do here I’ll add some food for thought; it took Tomac four races to get his first 450 MX overall. The four time world champ couldn’t even land on the podium in 11 races.
Kenny actually did four or five 450 SX races on a 350 between 2011 and 2013 before he moved up full time in 2014.
Fun fact: He almost won the 2012 450 Seattle SX on a 350 when he was still 17 years old, got 2nd behind Andrew Short.
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Yes, i know, but the first time he actually raced a 450, he won, which is why i worded it how i did.
And yes i remember that race, so close at such a young age.
Facts hurt your feelings dude?
Kinda sounding like Prado. Excuse after excuse after excuse. lol. Lot of assumptions in that response.
Facts:
Prado is an MXGP champ and CAN ride a dirtbike fast AF.
Prado is a picky rider and not very pliable when it comes to setup and his bike.
Prado is a whiner and airs his laundry out in public.
Kawasaki gave Prado a chance to race in the US.
Prado took Kawasaki's offer after riding the bike and said it was better than his KTM.
If things aren't right for Prado, he will ask for release and then stop trying.
Prado says Kawasaki did nothing to help him.
Kawasaki said they did everything they could to help him.
Kawasaki and Monster both thought it was worth more effort to keep trying.
Prado did not want to keep trying.
If you don't release him out of the contract he signed the public will come after you for not doing the right thing for Prado's career.
Do you guys think it was the KTM or that he finally ditched the scoop tire that resulted it ET3s win?
I could agree with you , but there is no point in us both being wrong.
Max has 40 races in 250sx, dating back to 2010. Haiden has 30, dating back to 2023.
Deegan was 4 years old in 2010 when Max was racing the 250 sx class.
So prado is going to end his career with stats greater than ELI? Got it.
Prado on the podium after 7 races and Marchbanks not qualified for the race!Prado is in the head of a lot of you guys,it’s hilarious.😂🤣
Jett was 10 years old when Tomac raced in the 450 class. Nobody cares
Just let it go. You are choosing one side. We know it. No one needs to hear it anymore.
The what class?
Could you imagine if Deegan was in the 250 class 15 years from now?
I bet you'd have an opinion then.
Yeah because he's dominating. If mcadoo is in the 250 class in 2040 I don't think anybody cares unless he wins some titles until then
Even if Kawi might be abit strict about changes to the bike RV, Tomac, Ando all continued to win. They overcame any hurdles with their attitudes and still performed really well.
Prado didn't. He gave up.
He's a different dude on the KTM which is good. Doesn't change what he did last season though.
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