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Your following your teams narrative and not thinking for yourself on this Matt.
I challenge you to go watch all his videos and come back with one example of hateful speech.
You made a bold claim sir so back it up
Really?
Show us.
Oh, by the way…in its actual context, too,
Israel did 9/11
Like what?
Surely you have examples with context.
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I have been busy and may have missed it, but did Trump say he was glad Mr and Mrs Reiner were killed, or that they deserved it?
I personally think what he said was horrible, but it was his opinion of Reiner.
Myself, I obviously didn’t know him, but think Reiner was a pretty good guy, but I didn’t agree with anything he said politically.
He was pretty vocal with his disdain for President Trump, and Trump would have been served better to keep quiet, but It for sure does not make me wish we had Biden, or even worse Kamala in his place.
Consider what Kirk said about Black women leaders and affirmative action. Assailing affirmative action “picks” Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Ketanji Brown Jackson, and Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, Kirk said, sickeningly, “you do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken seriously” without affirmative action. “You had to steal a white person’s slot.”
Kirk was an equal opportunity hater who called Martin Luther King, Jr.“awful,” and “not a good person,” whileinsisting, “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.”
If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, ‘Boy, I hope he’s qualified.’” That is some deeply racist garbage.
Kirk called gay and transgender people “groomers” who are “destructive,” opposed gay marriage, and campaigned against gender-affirming care for transgender people, insisting, “We must ban trans-affirming care—the entire country.
When Zohran Mamdani shocked the nation by winning the New York CityDemocratic primary, Kirk vented, hideously, “Twenty-four years ago a group of Muslims killed 2,753 people on 9/11…Now a Muslim Socialist is on pace to run New York City.” Kirk peddled in paranoid, racist, and Islamophobic right-wing nonsense. He called Islam“the sword the Left is using to slit the throat of America.” How profoundly rotten and hateful can one be?
here’s a few of the things. Should I continue?
Here you go Sog.... I voted for Trump and continue to support most of his policies. However, that being said, I do not condone nor approve of the social media post he did. Rob said awful, vile things about Republicans/MAGA/Conservitives. But I would never say that about a person being murdered. Like my Mom used to tell me, "if you don't have anything nice to say, then just don't say anything".
It was not hate speech. They hated what Charlie said and how he said it.
I hate a lot of things leftist (jasmine crocket, chuck schumer, and aoc for examples) say, but I don’t label it as hate speech.
It’s just an easy way out for leftists, like calling conservatives nazis or racists.
It seems very suspicious to me that the girl assassinated at Brown University was also an outspoken conservative.
What is “hate”? Serious question. I cannot think of a single person or thing I hate. I don’t care for radicals on either end of the spectrum, but I certainly don’t hate them. And while I find some politicians continuously failing to meet basic standards of human decency, it’s much more disappointment than hate.
Hate is a powerful word indicative of strong emotions. The world has so many things to be grateful for (apologies to Falcon for the grammar). Why waste time hating?
I hate to say it, because I was relatively uneducated on Charlie Kirk’s body of work before his really unfortunate demise but you’re lying to yourself if you think some of his statements didn’t have undertones of racism or sexism, for example, saying African Americans are largely unqualified for a multitude of jobs that require cognition. Of course, hate that I even have to say this but this man in no way deserved any pain for voicing his opinion, but let’s not act like he wasn’t (possibly purposefully for shock value) pushing certain buttons
I would guess everything you heard or read was out of context.
If you’re interested I would encourage you to do some research, I’ve only listened to one of his episodes, the one with Dr. Taylor Marshall, but in that one episode alone he let out some controversial racial statements. Again, his larger message of wanting to spread freedom and have citizens understand how much freedom they truly have was something this country truly needed, he just wasn’t as pristine as people make him out to be
I don't want to seem to be victim-blaming, but I have this hunch that Reiner's ultra-liberal outlook might have affected his tolerance for his son's crazy behavior in a way that his son was so coddled and privileged that he became a monster. I just saw a clip where the son said "you don't want to set me off," basically saying "I'm a psycho." His Dad laughed at that (like he's okay with a semi-menacing statement like that) then the next question was if the Dad ever worried his son would affect his career. Rob Reiner's response was "he's more important than anything that could happen to me." That kind of probably sums up his son's orientation, as if his son took him to his word on that. What a sick mf'er that kid is.
It kind of gets to a tenet I observe in the liberal world: that there is no such thing as bad people, just misunderstood people.
There are plenty of parents on both sides of the spectrum that tolerate their children’s behavior. Not sure being a liberal had much to do with it.
Quite the opposite actually, Mr. Reiner was all about the "tough Love" approach to his kids addictions (rehabs routinely push this approach as it keeps the addict in a place of not feeling loved which continues the circle of in and out of rehab = $$$$), to the point it was breaking him. When he figured out that wasn't working he sought out much less confrontational approaches and by all accounts they were in a pretty good place. Something changed in the week leading up to their deaths and here we are.
EDIT: Nick Reiner made a movie about his heroin addiction and being homeless, it's called "Being Charlie". It's actually a pretty decent film.
Back on the discussion track we should be on…
Something I find sad…and just wrong…crazy…
There are people in the media, talking heads, introducing the idea of a defense based on…”he was on drugs”…and talking about some sort of lack of full responsibility due to that…like the defense of the “pit of your mind”/temp-insanity immediacy of a crime of passion and him not being of sound mind…yada, yada, yada…
He stabbed his parents to death. Nick did. Period. Done. Life Without Parole…never getting out FUCKING EVER…At the very least. PERIOD.
i for one am shocked to see the usual cultists in here sealioning again about.. charlie kirk? in a thread about Rob Reiner.. while their savior proved (yet again) last night in a national address the he doesn’t understand how percentages work. this is the dumbest fucking timeline.
we are the laughing stock of the world because of idiots like you. and if this offends you - the answer is yes, i am talking specifically about you.
Pit Row
Thanks, now I want a few Snickers...
Disgusting
Didn’t Reiner claim Donald Trump was the most dangerous person in the world? Looks like that was not the case…
A lecture on intelligence by someone who can't manage capitalization or grammar.
Well done.
Rob Reiner would’ve laughed…he was a very funny man…and in all this darkness…a little laughter is good for the soul.
I find myself awfully damn angry about all the speculation of a “temporary insanity” or “under the influence” defense for the murderer. I need to get over that and have a little faith…
But, damn, it ain’t easy.
If anyone followed Reiner on X, you will understand totally where the Trump post came from.
He was the epitome of TDS,
And while its easy to say 'stay classy', treating others as they treat you also has its justification.
The fact that he was killed by the hand of his own making maybe tells us more than a little about how the man was wired up.
I am pretty certain that as more news comes out, there will be a point that this all makes sense, i know where my money is at.
Ya f dat pedo pos... sadly he didn't end via a wood chipper ride....
I'd heard they were going to seek the death penalty for Nick. Temp insanity or under the influence would more than likely take that off the table, so that's my guess as to why they're trying to go that route.
Here’s the rub…especially for those that think they’ve got some of us “figured out”…😎
I’m not necessarily on-board with the death penalty in this case. Look, LWOP (Life W/Out Parole) is the obvious minimum requirement here; but, the intent/premeditation and other legal hurdles for the death penalty need to be met to “go there”.
The whole thing is just so fucked up.
Here’s the most fucked up part: we’ve got a family that’s just been robbed of its mother and father; and, now…we’re talking about taking one of their siblings away, too. YES! I get it. He’s the fucking murderer. All the while…it doesn’t change that “most fucked up part”…not one bit.
Actions have consequences.
Here’s a harsh reality…
When you’re the fucking President, you take the high road. Especially while the bodies are still warm.
I’m thinking that’s where most folks are coming from.
After ALL that the Left has said, done and attempted to do to Trump, it is not a stretch to see why he does not GAF about taking the high road with a group of people who have literally tried to get his brain splattered on national TV. And many literally lamented, publicly, that they were bummed the bullet missed. That shit will change you.
Whether people like Trumps reaction/retort at least hes being genuine and not being a two face hypocrite. Ive always said, if you hate my guts, hate my guts all the time. Dont be two faced about it. I used to get a kick outta people in my area who talk shit about someone all week long, and then smile and shake their hand at church on Sunday like they are best buds. Fuck that. If you cant stand me, be a man and own it in public.
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