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Falcon
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PRM31 wrote:
Engine oil: Motorex. I keep considering others but it shifts and functions perfectly so I shouldn’t change.Filter oil: Bel Ray. Haven’t changed. I try to avoid Break...

Engine oil: Motorex. I keep considering others but it shifts and functions perfectly so I shouldn’t change.

Filter oil: Bel Ray. Haven’t changed. 

I try to avoid Break Fluids. 

mxracer666 wrote:

I never had so many various motorcycle problems as I did when I used break fluids!  ;-) 

Yeah, it's like everything you spray it on starts to fail! 😄

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I've used all kinds of oil in my 2 stroke gear boxes and in my 4 strokes, 5w-30 to 20w50. Automotive, motorcycle, & HD diesel. I can honestly say, I never feel a difference in clutch or shifting action. I do notice when it's hot outside my 450fx seems to have more engine noise unless I use a 5,10, or 20W50 oil. I would run 20w50 all the time, but under 30 degrees the engine cranks a little slow, and below 20 degrees it won't start. 

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mxaniac
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Personal opinion is most any quality synthetics are fine if you change it frequently. For 2T I look for a group V ester based with a reasonable flash point. Many of the 2T oils we used to buy are no longer available like Mobil 1 MX2T or Castrol TTS. Currently I buy the Honda HP2 because it's readily available in cases at a lower price.

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12/6/2025 12:52pm

been in the sport since 1986 and i’ve tried them all and i gone back to where i started and run Maxima for everything except for my two stroke transmission i still use Honda gear oil. Its regularly the most economical high quality option for everything I use both four and two stroke! 

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12/6/2025 1:33pm Edited Date/Time 12/6/2025 1:38pm
mxaniac wrote:
Personal opinion is most any quality synthetics are fine if you change it frequently. For 2T I look for a group V ester based with a...

Personal opinion is most any quality synthetics are fine if you change it frequently. For 2T I look for a group V ester based with a reasonable flash point. Many of the 2T oils we used to buy are no longer available like Mobil 1 MX2T or Castrol TTS. Currently I buy the Honda HP2 because it's readily available in cases at a lower price.

TTS is now labelled as Castrol Power 1

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mxaniac
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mxaniac wrote:
Personal opinion is most any quality synthetics are fine if you change it frequently. For 2T I look for a group V ester based with a...

Personal opinion is most any quality synthetics are fine if you change it frequently. For 2T I look for a group V ester based with a reasonable flash point. Many of the 2T oils we used to buy are no longer available like Mobil 1 MX2T or Castrol TTS. Currently I buy the Honda HP2 because it's readily available in cases at a lower price.

TTS is now labelled as Castrol Power 1

TTS is now labelled as Castrol Power 1

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Awesome thanks for the heads up.

For those that don't know, local oil distributors can often sell you oil at great prices when you buy it by the case, but that's major retail brands like Mobil or Castrol.

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Rotella of course, I started in 2012 I think…. A buddy was telling me it’s the best. Then at High Point pro national I found some empty bottles behind 2 factory semis and a bunch of empty bottles in the privateer pits and that’s the day I switched 

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12/7/2025 6:41am

Engine Oils: Motul

 

Gearbox Oils: Bel-Ray 

 

2 Stroke oil: HP-2 Honda Oil

 

Break Fluids: Motul

 

Filter Oils: Maxima

 

Grease: Bel-Ray

 

Gas / fuel additives: Pump / C-10 VP

 

Wash: Simple Green

 

Shine:  SC1

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12/7/2025 7:46am Edited Date/Time 12/7/2025 7:46am

I smoke full synthetic Mystic JT4 Snowmobile.

I grind Rotella T4.

Tuzzo123
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12/7/2025 9:50am
zeke458 wrote:
Rotella of course, I started in 2012 I think…. A buddy was telling me it’s the best. Then at High Point pro national I found some...

Rotella of course, I started in 2012 I think…. A buddy was telling me it’s the best. Then at High Point pro national I found some empty bottles behind 2 factory semis and a bunch of empty bottles in the privateer pits and that’s the day I switched 

They were probably putting in the trucks like its supposed to be used......

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One of the guys I raced with was an engineer in the petroleum industry. He told me to just run Rotella, keep it changed, and don't worry about it.

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zeke458 wrote:
Rotella of course, I started in 2012 I think…. A buddy was telling me it’s the best. Then at High Point pro national I found some...

Rotella of course, I started in 2012 I think…. A buddy was telling me it’s the best. Then at High Point pro national I found some empty bottles behind 2 factory semis and a bunch of empty bottles in the privateer pits and that’s the day I switched 

Tuzzo123 wrote:

They were probably putting in the trucks like its supposed to be used......

Changing truck oil at the races 😂. It's a know fact many teams at least used to use rotella in the bikes. I bet some still do, but with so many camera phones and social media posts they'll be better about not leaving the evidence laying around. 

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One of the guys I raced with was an engineer in the petroleum industry. He told me to just run Rotella, keep it changed, and don't...

One of the guys I raced with was an engineer in the petroleum industry. He told me to just run Rotella, keep it changed, and don't worry about it.

Even with the new formula? Some guys that are very knowledgeable are above being updated. Just sayin'

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12/7/2025 11:29am
mxaniac wrote:
One of the guys I raced with was an engineer in the petroleum industry. He told me to just run Rotella, keep it changed, and don't...

One of the guys I raced with was an engineer in the petroleum industry. He told me to just run Rotella, keep it changed, and don't worry about it.

TDC wrote:

Even with the new formula? Some guys that are very knowledgeable are above being updated. Just sayin'

This was quite some time ago. I haven't talked oils with him in over a decade. So yes, the whole ZDDP change changes everything.

12/7/2025 12:52pm Edited Date/Time 12/7/2025 12:54pm

Anyone tried this stuff?

Don't know of the picture has uploaded but its Amsoil MUDLSINGER

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mxaniac wrote:
One of the guys I raced with was an engineer in the petroleum industry. He told me to just run Rotella, keep it changed, and don't...

One of the guys I raced with was an engineer in the petroleum industry. He told me to just run Rotella, keep it changed, and don't worry about it.

TDC wrote:

Even with the new formula? Some guys that are very knowledgeable are above being updated. Just sayin'

mxaniac wrote:

This was quite some time ago. I haven't talked oils with him in over a decade. So yes, the whole ZDDP change changes everything.

What's wrong with the new formula? It's still got more ZDDP in it that JASO 1 and 2 call for, iirc it's got 1200 ppm, and still meets or exceeds the rest of the requirements. Personally I think it's a bit overpriced now, but it will be fine in any motorcycle. 

 

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TDC wrote:

Even with the new formula? Some guys that are very knowledgeable are above being updated. Just sayin'

mxaniac wrote:

This was quite some time ago. I haven't talked oils with him in over a decade. So yes, the whole ZDDP change changes everything.

Timo wrote:
What's wrong with the new formula? It's still got more ZDDP in it that JASO 1 and 2 call for, iirc it's got 1200 ppm, and...

What's wrong with the new formula? It's still got more ZDDP in it that JASO 1 and 2 call for, iirc it's got 1200 ppm, and still meets or exceeds the rest of the requirements. Personally I think it's a bit overpriced now, but it will be fine in any motorcycle. 

 

I still use it for things. The low sulfur is a benefit in some cases, like keeping the oil ring gland drain holes from clogging. Nothing wrong with it, but it does get outperformed by others in the tappet test.

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12/8/2025 9:09am

Rotella since 2001 and my first mx stroker. Changed every 3-4 hours and filter changes every other. No failures ever.

 

Rotella T6 15w40 in my XR650L, it's air cooled, runs hot as hell, gets ridden like a choir boy at a catnolic school, and never fails me. I change it often every 1000-1500 miles.

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I am surprised to see other answers than shell rotella... lol

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