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Probably just bought a out-of-jail ticket from Trump.
And in the ultimate plot twist they blow up the boat he sails home in.
I’m pretty sure that ticket home has already been purchased…..
It does seem odd that we’re talking about the illegal drug trade being a nearly existential crisis to the point that we are (probably) committing war crimes by killing the initial survivors of the attacks, but we are pardoning those that employ those people and proft the most off the illegal drug trade.
Can anyone explain the logic to this that doesn’t point to a likely financial benefit for the person issuing the pardon?
Seems like Trump likes headlines and money. Sometimes I wonder how much he is doing just to try and bring attention away from a subject he dislikes or thinks is bad for him.
If the strikes really are to stop the flow of drugs into the US. I struggle to think of why You would Pardon one of the people who is responsible for being in charge of the shipments. Perhaps if that person flipped and was an informant and told you all of the secret ways that drugs flow into the us. The tunnels, and who knows what else that have never been seen before. I bet that many of the shipments that get stopped could be decoy's , letting people think that they are doing the job of really stopping the flow.
The pharmaceutical industry is the biggest drug dealer of all. They invented Fentanyl and 100's of other strong pain meds that people are hooked on and that are more dangerous than previous street drugs.
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He was convicted of smuggling 450 TONS of Cocaine and weapons. Sentenced to 45 years in prison. Full pardon and paid transportation home. Nothing to see here.
Yeah but some people told Trump that the guy was badly mistreated. We can't have that. Never mind that suspected drug runners are murdered but convicted ones should get a break if they are badly mistreated.
You guys are all smart, most of you anyway. Trump does whatever gets him paid. Any idiot can see that.
What’s odd is, dealers usually get released to catch bigger fish ie, their connections. Who’s the bigger fish in this case? It doesn’t make sense.
He said he was sorry
I really, really hope that the idiot fucking president of ours is just wagging his dick around as usual and that he really does not intend to take any military action. Is there a goddam adult anywhere in this administration?
I know, Hegseth will bring Trump to his senses. No, Rubio will.
I did not imagine that shit would get this stupid.
Gone way past simple clown show now...
This thread is pure comedy. Lmao 🤣
Supposedly there's a connection between this guy hernandez and peter thiel
Low IQ response, typical.
I was really hoping this wasn’t true. Still hoping. But it seems to be gaining traction, and if true, remember that lawful order / non lawful order convo….
Loyalty-Based Worldview Trump’s governing style has been widely
described by insiders as loyalty‑based:
- Loyal → rewarded or protected
- Useful → promoted
- Critical or disloyal → attacked
- Powerless groups → used as scapegoats
Messaging vs. Actions Pardoning someone involved with serious drug
crimes while simultaneously using drug fears to target immigrants
seems contradictory logically, but politically it serves different goals
Well that’s what the coast guard does so they can infiltrate these cartels. Then you can decapitate it. The coast guard captures these boats and 80% of the time it’s not drug related. So I would image it’s the same with these boats there blowing up. But there just killing supposed low level guys with no proof.
They flipped the script, pardon the head of the cartel and let him free and blow up the lower level guys or fishermen , whoever is unlucky enough to have been in those boats.
Big hypothetical , what would the Pro blowing up boat people think if they started to target boats with people being smuggled instead of drugs? What would You think if info came out that said that the drug boats really were transporting people, still smuggling . But people instead of drugs.
Pit Row
Rubio is the biggest driver of this regime change war, so no help from him.
With the so-called “cartel of the suns” being designated a terrorist organization (which doesn’t actually exist btw, it’s a fictional organization meant to be a catch-all for Venezuelan drug traffickers), it’s only a matter of time before the State Department uses this as pretext for a justified regime change war. A war in Venezuela is extremely unpopular with the American public so expect some kind of false flag or propaganda campaign to come soon to try to sell it to the idiots who will buy in.
So in your mind killing 3 drug smugglers and vaporizing a bunch of cocaine is the same as killing a few human smugglers and their victims??
Wow.
Is there any proof they were drug smugglers and there was drugs on those ships. So far the Trump administration has given zero. Or is that Biden fault too. 😂
It was a question to see if the people that thought it was a good idea thought it was the same, or justifiable. I am one of the people that do not think they should have blown up the boats in the first place. In my opinion the death penalty is too strong to be used for anybody that is just a suspected smuggler.
When was the law put in place that importing drugs to the US was punishable by death ? I've heard people that know about the drug cartels say that often the people driving the boats are regular people who's family has been kidnapped and they tell them to drive the boats or we kill Your family. In that case You are not doing much to stop the cartels , You are making more of an incentive for them to grab more families and use them instead of cartel members being at the helm of the boats.
Is it safe to say that You draw the line at suspected drug smugglers being blown up? What about if a boat was filled with the " gang members" that Trump claims many illegal immigrants are a part of? Would that be ok to blow them up since they are suspected gang members? My point being that there is no law that says its OK to do what they are doing, so what is to stop them from doing something similar for other things they dislike?
For me there are a few issues . The first being that there is no proof that the boats had drugs. There have been survivors after at least a couple of the strikes, so that would make me think that they could have easily found proof that drugs were on the boats. And one of the other issues I see, is that there is no law that allows for drug smugglers to be killed. Innocent until proven guilty right? . At what point do other suspected criminals get the same punishment? How can anybody think that there is no chance that if they get public approval of these strikes, that they do not escalate to punishing people without a trial or proof of a crime? Its not that I don't think that they should stop drugs from being brought in. Its so funny how many people trust the Trump admin, that do not trust the "governments " word otherwise.
If a democrat, independent or Taylor Swift did something similar than I would feel the same. Its not who is doing it, its what is being done and the precedent it sets. If people have a problem with Biden or Obama, or another Democrat's admin doing a similar thing, shouldn't You also be upset that Trump's people are doing it too? How do you defend one and the other is OK?
Please tell me we don’t have a bunch of Biden-Harris folks in here running their mouths about “Pardons”?!
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Where were y'all when Obama was dispatching predator strikes every hour?
Since politics weren't allowed in non-moto at the time, those of us that were critical of the Obama admin and it's policies had no soap box to shout from, but sure keep trolling as if this is an apples to apples comparison.
EDIT: Isn't this the very definition of "whataboutism" that Manny and others decried when people brought up the dumb shit Trump did in his first term? Or does this no longer apply since using Biden is so easy to try and deflect from the dumb shit he is doing now?
Seriously, if You guys hated it when Biden or Obama did it, why do You go to the ends of the earth defending somebody from doing " the same thing" ? Personally I will be happy when Trump does something I approve of, and mad when he does something I do not. Same with every other president no matter the party.
Why would I vote for somebody else who's doing all the same shit that has pissed me off when somebody else did it? Why do people think its OK for one and not the other. Do You see how ironic and hypocritical it is?
I don't think its the Pardon alone that's the problem. Its the going after low level people with 0 evidence to show, putting them to death and then letting one of the people out of jail that has been convicted for doing the same thing they are putting people to death for. That went through a trial and had evidence that proved their guilt.
No matter if I agree or disagree with who gets a pardon or not. I do not think they should be allowed to be reversed like Trump is talking of doing. It sets a bad precedent for whoever comes next to just undo Trumps pardons too.
OK, "politics weren't allowed", fair answer. However, I'd hardly call it trolling as I believe it is the same thing. We were bombing the shit out of people that were responsible for killing our fellow Americans with bullets, IDEs, ... and now we are blowing the shit out of the supply chain (including the boat crew at times) that are trafficking a different lethal product designed to kill our fellow Americans. And make a shit ton of $$s in the process of killing our fellow Americans. I personally see it as the same thing and am 100% in support of it. I 100% believe we have intel people on the ground that are giving feed back where and when to strike. Also these are not recreational vessels. Many of these vessels are task specific designed and built. The vessels are given the opportunity to stop an be boarded prior to elimination. Given the fact that they don't do that is quite telling. I fully support this. And for the crowd that complains the supply is driven by the demand. When you're a parent and you have a 3 year old that has a stack of cookies in front of them on a table, you don't lecture them about how eating cookies is bad for them, you take away the f#@%ing cookies. You can teach them later. but you don't do it while they are eating an unlimited supply of cookies. And as far as the pardon goes, I don't know enough about it to understand it. But the fact that one thing happened does not mean stopping the flow of drugs is a bad thing.
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" Seriously, if You guys hated it when Biden or Obama did it, why do You go to the ends of the earth defending somebody from doing " the same thing" ? Personally I will be happy when Trump does something I approve of, and mad when he does something I do not. Same with every other president no matter the party. "
Did I say I hated it when Obama did it? Nope, I think it was a viable tool to protect our people. Was it abused? Were there some mistakes? Probably, but it was still the right thig to do. I also believe (without any real info) the people on those boats would get killed by the cartel people if they stopped and gave up their drugs and ended up in the jail system. The cartel is based on people that are willing to give their life to carry out the task assigned to them. The people in the boat are much more afraid of the cartel then anything we can and will do to them.
TM
Should we apply the same to Americans suspected of transporting drugs? No apprehension, no trial. Just take them out because it looks like they’re “in the act”. A few innocent people might get caught in the frag pattern, but that’s the cost of doing business, right? I mean, it’s the exact logic being used off the Venezuelan coast today for the purpose of shutting down supply.
fwiw, Caroline Leavitt just said in todays press briefing that the Honduran people told Trump the former head of Honduras was set up. She also said that the US has the right to take out Venezuelan drug boats because drug smugglers are considered terrorists.
PB going on right now if you want to listen, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwgDZhS289M
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