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I'm not an expert by any means. I feel we can always keep learning. It's a lot of work to make a track right and keep it going.
I work mine with a small new holland 30 hp tractor with a 10 tine cultivator to rip deep then i use a modified landscape rake to groom it to ride. Keeps it a nice 6 to 8 inches deep. A nice mix of sandstone and clay keeps the big clods from forming.
Guys, does anyone have experience with this attachment below fixing REALLY hard pack track. Would it be even possible to brake the soil with the mini rippers i see..
What size tractor? its all going to depend on weight (and HP to pull it)
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A chisel plow to loosen up the dirt and then a tiller after to break up the big dirt clods. Really depends on soil though. If you use a box blade or straight blade to fill in the ruts they will just return very quickly.
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I use a smaller, 5 tine version of that. Mine has wider spacing on the tines and they are depth-adjustable. Even w/4WD and a 40HP Kubota it is hard work to rip true hard pack. Often it will hang up and I have to reverse to try again. Big chunks of hardpack will flip up and I have to break them up sometimes. I would think with all those tines you would need a LOT of HP to pull it through.
Usually I have to wait until there is decent moisture well down into the soil to make real headway. It surprising how little penetration you get from rainfall on top of clay/topsoil hardpack. Even heavy rain for a few days only gets 4-6" down and under that it's bone dry. Once I can get it ripped, I add sawdust and rip it more, then till it as deep as I can drive my tiller. If I had a real watering system I could keep it like that all summer.
There's fancy attachments out there that do work great but it can be done on a smaller budget. I use a 72" 7 tine chisel plow and a 72" tiller with my 80hp tractor. As long as its not going to excessively rain I re-rip everything after riding to keep the ground soft for the next prep. For the next ride I water everything heavily the night before. The next day i'll rip again to gauge the moisture levels and touch up water as needed. Then I run my tiller. We get incredible conditions. It can be done with pretty simple attachments. Most just don't go deep enough or add enough water.
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I have cat 247b
Not sure if you have any elevation, but I learned after about a year of using a 14’ disc that it caused too much soil erosion after big rains. Not that I was worried about that but in some spots had a 2-3’ ledge from where the track was before. Plus once it dried the dirt would almost be like powder and riding in a dust bowl. I stopped using the disc and started using a 6’ rotary tiller in the corners along with a box blade/grader to level out the dirt. The other sections I would just back drag with skid steer.
No , I have no elevations, track is in flat surface, and rains are super rare..only in the winter..
That's exactly how I prep mine. I do add fresh fir sawdust 2x a year which really improves water retention and traction. Plus it smells good for the first day or 2!
If you don't get any rain I would think the land plane with scarifiers you posted would be the only implement worth trying with a tractor less than about 75hp if you are mainly looking to knock down the ruts. Is it a quad track you are trying to smooth out or a moto track you are trying to soften up to create better ruts?
It is mixed track, we all ride together but at some point it needs to be fixed one time after races and another time during the training period...Basically there are not ruts but rather too much braking bumps similar on the corner exits...and not only but ..
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Is a box blade with rippers any good or is a regular old back blade the way to go? 25 hp new kubota. Just want something to keep the kids turn track in decent shape. It’s clay soil so not sure if the rippers would even do anything besides skip across the top?
From the pictures it looks like a front mounted attachment (only way to mount anything on a 247). You neck is going to get pretty sore in about 5 minutes going backwards.
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What's a good attachment for dealing with rocks? Our local track has gotten better but sometimes it can be a rock garden or pull out boulders the size of my boots and head.
Do-All type culitvators will turn the rocks back under to a point.
Honest answer. Walk around every time you can with wheelbarrow or tractor bucket or whatever, and pull what you see, make a pile somewhere.
It's not a one day thing but over time makes a big difference.
Right there with you. We do aged horse manure spring and late summer. It doesn't smell and amends the soil perfectly.![]()
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Box blade with L series Kubota works for me. Scarifiers all the way down, blade just skimming the surface. Clay soil, I try to run back and forth in both directions once a week after rain.
if you don't disc the track there won't be any ruts to groom... just saying.
Yes, absolutely
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