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Wow, just when you think they couldn't go any lower... Telling the military to not follow "unlawful" orders. 🙄
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Iux161DZAA
PS. No mention of which orders are supposedly "Unlawful".
Bombing civilian vessels in international waters, when your country is not at war with that country, is illegal under international law.
Stopping and searching vessels for contraband in international waters is not illegal.
So you're saying unlawful orders should be followed?
I believe that it was reported, at least at first, that they tried to intercept the boats to search them and they would not stop.
I assume that is still the case. Could be wrong, though.
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This boat was stationary when bombed...
Trump takes charge he doesn’t give a shit about people that think we should be pussys I hope they blow all these scumbag motherfuckers up and all the cartels also, why would you be against keeping this shit off our streets too many people are so fucked up from these cartels pushing drugs you should look at what this has done to society come on, also it’s great that we are rounding up all these scumbags that the fucking left let in our country, look how many idiots or protesting keeping criminals in there cities just fucking stupid.
So you are OK for Russia or China or any other country to started blowing up US civilian boats in international waters?
Ever heard of the war on drugs??
That's absolutely incorrect, these guys have been blowing boats out of the water with absolutely no evidence to back up that they're even carrying drugs, let alone attempting to engage them beforehand. Not only is it illegal, but there have been survivors that were not even from Venezuela, which leads me to believe they have no idea who they're even blowing up.
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§2383. Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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It’s easy to blow up your chest from behind a keyboard and shout “USA!” Not so easy if you’re the guy or gal picked to carry out a mission with no clearly defined purpose or outcome. There’s no solid evidence that the boats are transporting drugs, and if they were, the destination isn’t the US. This is little more than a propaganda campaign aimed at Trump’s core supporters.
I supported Trump’s “hands off” approach to international conflict escalations. This Venezuelan activity counters that philosophy and has yet to yield tangible results.
If they're us boats carrying drugs and guns yep.
I assume you have evidence to back up your claim that they had no evidence?
Blast those drug running scum into shark chum. Hell I will send a donation to help fund the ordinance.
All this blather about "no evidence", you clowns have zero clue what evidence they do, or do not have. Youre just a peon like I am with absolutely no legit insight other than what the stupid talking heads in media lie about. From both sides.
What I DO know, is Im seeing video of stripped down cigarette boats full of barrels of dope getting decimated. And I smile ear to ear seeing the carnage.
Its not a partisan thing, Id be this happy if Biden was doing it also.
From a prior maintainer to a pilot...I will tell you that when the Chief tore the Red X page out the forms and told me to "release that fucker"...it's about the most helpless I've ever felt.
The plane got released but I always made sure the pilot knew the true condition of his jet. He stood a lot better chance of surviving a fight with the Chief than I did.
Was his order illegal...hell yes.
So what was wrong with the old system of dealing with these boats? Marksmen firing from helicopters disabling the engines then doing actual investigative work, collecting evidence, interrogating suspects. Why change to indiscriminate killing? All the "evidence" conveniently ends up on the bottom of the ocean, leaving no way to confirm that they were in fact carrying drugs.
Seems like they took a system that worked without violating international law and replaced it with one that does.
Is there really a defensible explanation for this?
A drone can loiter for hours in an airspace with little risk of damage and no risk to crews.
Having a helicopter within mission range is lucky at best. If the smugglers start getting their hands on shoulder fired AAC weapons, that becomes a problem.
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Two reasons:
1) There’s almost zero value or intel obtained by destroying the boats
2) The action, by many definitions, is unlawful.
A senior admiral already resigned due to this activity. Deployed personnel are primarily concerned about not f’ing up the mission, but they are putting themselves at risk for a charade.
Non-Moto has often been a sounding board for guys whose family members have been besieged by drugs. The logic above would have US forces indiscriminately wiping out those individuals as well.
Have you ever actually posted a single original thought? All I've ever seen from you are Karoline Leavitt quotes and weird memes.
A lot of Americans dying from fentanyl under the old system.
This administration ran on, and overwhelmingly won a mandate election on an aggressive approach to fentanyl trafficking and border control.
International law does not dictate our actions around homeland security, nor is it enforceable in the way that Moron Zamboni and others like to assert.
Same question I asked Manny in another thread, why aren't we blowing up cartel manufacturing locations in Mexico if International law be damned at this point?
99% of the drugs in this country come from there and we have definitive proof of that. It would certainly make a bigger dent than a handful of boats in international waters.
The boats are fair game when they are in International water
Said every Somali pirate ever.
Same reason we don't just nuke the continent. There is in fact a strategy here and consideration for lives, even if many people don't agree or want to believe it.
Naw, that's different because it's against a US flagged vessel.
That's a copout if the directive is to save American lives from drugs. Precedent has been established...
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