Prado drama continuing?

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Why would race results determine your value as a person?  Those seem like 2 different things.
 

keinz wrote:
Go cry in a pillow club somewhere. We're talking about racing here. If people started ranking people on the star line, why would there be racing...

Go cry in a pillow club somewhere. We're talking about racing here. If people started ranking people on the star line, why would there be racing at all? I'd give the trophy to the most normal person right away.

TalinH112 wrote:

Sorry your dad beat you, don’t take it out on everyone. 

He didn't beat me. He was jus plain and simple just drunk

 

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You think him riding around with 1 hand or qualifying out of the top 40 was him riding on the edge of injury? Carson brown would...

You think him riding around with 1 hand or qualifying out of the top 40 was him riding on the edge of injury? Carson brown would have waxed him on an 85. If that was as fast as he could have gone without injury, it probably would have been wise to keep both hands on the bars and stand up... Come on man, the bike does not make that kind of a difference. I can setup any bike for myself with no experience or team to be able to ride at 95%... He didn't try. He gave up. He's spoiled. He is arrogant. He passes blame to everyone else but him. Not a fan of that type of human. If you want to be a fan, you are welcome too. Just trying to point out that most people here that are no longer fans of his are not complaining about his riding, they have an issue with his character. 

3strokemx wrote:
I'm not a George fan, I thought he was over hyped and wouldn't be a top 5 guy.It's hilarious to me that people listen to a...

I'm not a George fan, I thought he was over hyped and wouldn't be a top 5 guy.

It's hilarious to me that people listen to a rider interview and then decide, nope, he's full of shit, I know the real story.   Then get worked up when information and reasoning contradict the story they fabricated in their own mind.   

 

Jkawi wrote:
Are you serious? don't gaslight me. I saw what he did, and I have heard a bunch of statements from a number of people that explain...

Are you serious? don't gaslight me. I saw what he did, and I have heard a bunch of statements from a number of people that explain the situation pretty well. Well, good enough for me (and others with a mild level of intelligence) to connect the dots. This is a case of he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, etc. At some point you have to look at the probability of 1 person being right or a hundred people being wrong. I am sorry you still can't figure it out. Just because you want to ignore all of the information out there and put your tinfoil hat on doesn't mean that others are the ones being ignorant and jumping to conclusions. All you are doing is proving that you are incredibly stupid.

By the way, you didn't answer my question. Was he trying as hard or going as fast as he could without risking injury with one hand on the bars or not? 

"At some point you have to look at the probability of 1 person being right or a hundred people being wrong."
There are plenty of examples in history of the majority being wrong.  But in this case it's still only 2 parties, Rider Vs. Team.  

Was he trying as hard as he could? 
Probably not. 

Regardless of whether he had the tools to do so, why does it bother you that Jorge didn't give max effort?  How does that impact your life?

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Jkawi wrote:
Dude, stop trying to find other excuses for his actions. The reasons are right in front of you. Maybe he is just a crybaby/ quitter/ 14...

Dude, stop trying to find other excuses for his actions. The reasons are right in front of you. Maybe he is just a crybaby/ quitter/ 14 yr old. He can still be an excellent MX rider. Those things are mutually exclusive of each other.

3strokemx wrote:

Maybe Prado will send you a nice apology letter for the emotional distress he caused to you this year.

Jkawi wrote:
Good one dipshit. I bet you wouldn't talk to me like that in person. You are a 14 y/o girl, just like Jorge. He isn't causing...

Good one dipshit. I bet you wouldn't talk to me like that in person. You are a 14 y/o girl, just like Jorge. He isn't causing me any emotional distress, you are by not understanding what is going on and talking to me and others like we are the ones who don't get what your noble mind is laying down. You keep bringing up his results. "I actually thought he wasn't going to be a top 5 guy". Who cares? He acted like a child, just like you are. I can't be a fan of that.

I don't have any dislike for Jorge. I'm just not a fan of his character. You are falling into that category as well. Believe me, I won't let it bother me. Just on here saying what comes to my mind and my observations. Just like everyone else. 

Cheers.

LOL I would 100% speak the same IRL, no worries about that.
I brought up the no top 5's post because it debunks your claim that I am blinded by Prado fandom.

How can you like Jorge but dislike his character?  Isn't character a primary part of a person?
That's like saying you like ice cream but dislike eating cold food. 

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keinz wrote:
Go cry in a pillow club somewhere. We're talking about racing here. If people started ranking people on the star line, why would there be racing...

Go cry in a pillow club somewhere. We're talking about racing here. If people started ranking people on the star line, why would there be racing at all? I'd give the trophy to the most normal person right away.

TalinH112 wrote:

Sorry your dad beat you, don’t take it out on everyone. 

keinz wrote:

He didn't beat me. He was jus plain and simple just drunk

 

Been there brother. 🤣

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It's not that he did not give max effort , it's the fact there was none. Was the bike that bad at the practice track a few days before? Why not stop in mid race ( or 3 laps in ) to the pits to tweak what ever is making him feel like doing parade laps after lap 3 of the race..

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3strokemx wrote:

Maybe Prado will send you a nice apology letter for the emotional distress he caused to you this year.

Jkawi wrote:
Good one dipshit. I bet you wouldn't talk to me like that in person. You are a 14 y/o girl, just like Jorge. He isn't causing...

Good one dipshit. I bet you wouldn't talk to me like that in person. You are a 14 y/o girl, just like Jorge. He isn't causing me any emotional distress, you are by not understanding what is going on and talking to me and others like we are the ones who don't get what your noble mind is laying down. You keep bringing up his results. "I actually thought he wasn't going to be a top 5 guy". Who cares? He acted like a child, just like you are. I can't be a fan of that.

I don't have any dislike for Jorge. I'm just not a fan of his character. You are falling into that category as well. Believe me, I won't let it bother me. Just on here saying what comes to my mind and my observations. Just like everyone else. 

Cheers.

3strokemx wrote:
LOL I would 100% speak the same IRL, no worries about that.I brought up the no top 5's post because it debunks your claim that I...

LOL I would 100% speak the same IRL, no worries about that.
I brought up the no top 5's post because it debunks your claim that I am blinded by Prado fandom.

How can you like Jorge but dislike his character?  Isn't character a primary part of a person?
That's like saying you like ice cream but dislike eating cold food. 

Quit putting words in my mouth. I said I don't have any dislike for him. I simply don't care. Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines?

Anyways, i'm done. Not worth it. You can't win arguing with stupid people. You can feel and think what you want, and I can do the same.

cheers

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10/23/2025 7:40am Edited Date/Time 10/23/2025 7:58am
beamer wrote:

MC didn’t have much good to say on the Jaxxon podcast that’s for sure . 

mxxxeR1 wrote:

 MC did the same with ktm when he didn't  like that bike....so he better keep his mouth shut....

MC didn’t roll around all year collecting a check. He retired after the bike tried to kill him all off season. 

And by kill him, I don’t mean “the chassis was uncomfortable”. The bike was bogging in the transitions. 

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Jkawi wrote:
Quit putting words in my mouth. I said I don't have any dislike for him. I simply don't care. Why do you need to try and...

Quit putting words in my mouth. I said I don't have any dislike for him. I simply don't care. Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines?

Anyways, i'm done. Not worth it. You can't win arguing with stupid people. You can feel and think what you want, and I can do the same.

cheers

Prado said the bike was the issue, so "Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines? "
 

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Lol, guy with Kawi in his name saying others are blinded by fandom 

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beamer wrote:

MC didn’t have much good to say on the Jaxxon podcast that’s for sure . 

mxxxeR1 wrote:

 MC did the same with ktm when he didn't  like that bike....so he better keep his mouth shut....

MC didn’t roll around all year collecting a check. He retired after the bike tried to kill him all off season. And by kill him, I don’t...

MC didn’t roll around all year collecting a check. He retired after the bike tried to kill him all off season. 

And by kill him, I don’t mean “the chassis was uncomfortable”. The bike was bogging in the transitions. 

Hey MC did hit a hot lap at every sx race in ‘03 for his retirement tour, so maybe he did get collect a check to? 😂😂 but seriously, I was at one of the Anaheims in ‘03 that MC was doing his hot lap at, and there was a huge whoop section before the triple, and boy did that look scary for MC hitting those whoops lol he pulled a boner air off the triple after those 😂😂😂

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USA wrote:

Lol, guy with Kawi in his name saying others are blinded by fandom 

Haven't owned one in 15 years, but cool observation.

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Jkawi wrote:
Quit putting words in my mouth. I said I don't have any dislike for him. I simply don't care. Why do you need to try and...

Quit putting words in my mouth. I said I don't have any dislike for him. I simply don't care. Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines?

Anyways, i'm done. Not worth it. You can't win arguing with stupid people. You can feel and think what you want, and I can do the same.

cheers

3strokemx wrote:
Prado said the bike was the issue, so "Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines...

Prado said the bike was the issue, so "Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines? "
 

And Kawasaki said they were trying very hard to make the bike fit Jorge, but he was impossible to work with... As I said - he said, she said, she said, she said... One took the high road, one took the low road. I really don't care enough to argue about this with you guys anymore. I can think what I want based on the info out there, and so can you. Who really cares. You can be right if you want.

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Jkawi wrote:
Quit putting words in my mouth. I said I don't have any dislike for him. I simply don't care. Why do you need to try and...

Quit putting words in my mouth. I said I don't have any dislike for him. I simply don't care. Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines?

Anyways, i'm done. Not worth it. You can't win arguing with stupid people. You can feel and think what you want, and I can do the same.

cheers

3strokemx wrote:
Prado said the bike was the issue, so "Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines...

Prado said the bike was the issue, so "Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines? "
 

Jkawi wrote:
And Kawasaki said they were trying very hard to make the bike fit Jorge, but he was impossible to work with... As I said - he...

And Kawasaki said they were trying very hard to make the bike fit Jorge, but he was impossible to work with... As I said - he said, she said, she said, she said... One took the high road, one took the low road. I really don't care enough to argue about this with you guys anymore. I can think what I want based on the info out there, and so can you. Who really cares. You can be right if you want.

Ahh you have chosen the road less traveled around here, the high one. 

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USA wrote:

Lol, guy with Kawi in his name saying others are blinded by fandom 

Jkawi wrote:

Haven't owned one in 15 years, but cool observation.

Haven't owned one in 15 years but included Kawi in your user name 10 years ago.  
Really weird behavior for someone that's not a Kawi fan.

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beamer wrote:

MC didn’t have much good to say on the Jaxxon podcast that’s for sure . 

mxxxeR1 wrote:

 MC did the same with ktm when he didn't  like that bike....so he better keep his mouth shut....

I'm not sure how in the heck this got a bunch of likes.  Some short memories out there.

 

First off, MC has earned the right to say anything he likes,  and the sport is better for it.  Secondly, he did make a mistake signing with ktm for 03, when he had other options on the table, so that part is on him.  The bike though was nowhere near ready, and never became sx ready at all.  A bog off a jump dislocated MC's hip.  It was also two long years for GL trying to ride that thing, and his stock took a hit those couple seasons until a PC resurgence. 

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USA wrote:

Lol, guy with Kawi in his name saying others are blinded by fandom 

Jkawi wrote:

Haven't owned one in 15 years, but cool observation.

3strokemx wrote:
Haven't owned one in 15 years but included Kawi in your user name 10 years ago.  Really weird behavior for someone that's not a Kawi fan.The...

Haven't owned one in 15 years but included Kawi in your user name 10 years ago.  
Really weird behavior for someone that's not a Kawi fan.

The digital forensics of VitalMX, brought to you by Kawasaki.

Good reach. That seems like a typical thing to do for you. Got me. Everything I have ever done must be a farce.

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3strokemx wrote:
Prado said the bike was the issue, so "Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines...

Prado said the bike was the issue, so "Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines? "
 

Jkawi wrote:
And Kawasaki said they were trying very hard to make the bike fit Jorge, but he was impossible to work with... As I said - he...

And Kawasaki said they were trying very hard to make the bike fit Jorge, but he was impossible to work with... As I said - he said, she said, she said, she said... One took the high road, one took the low road. I really don't care enough to argue about this with you guys anymore. I can think what I want based on the info out there, and so can you. Who really cares. You can be right if you want.

TalinH112 wrote:

Ahh you have chosen the road less traveled around here, the high one. 

Oh no, I'd say plenty of the posts on Vital have been on the "high" road

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Jkawi wrote:
And Kawasaki said they were trying very hard to make the bike fit Jorge, but he was impossible to work with... As I said - he...

And Kawasaki said they were trying very hard to make the bike fit Jorge, but he was impossible to work with... As I said - he said, she said, she said, she said... One took the high road, one took the low road. I really don't care enough to argue about this with you guys anymore. I can think what I want based on the info out there, and so can you. Who really cares. You can be right if you want.

TalinH112 wrote:

Ahh you have chosen the road less traveled around here, the high one. 

SlackBoy wrote:

Oh no, I'd say plenty of the posts on Vital have been on the "high" road

Haha Touché good sir. 🤣

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10/23/2025 3:11pm Edited Date/Time 10/24/2025 7:27am
Jkawi wrote:
Quit putting words in my mouth. I said I don't have any dislike for him. I simply don't care. Why do you need to try and...

Quit putting words in my mouth. I said I don't have any dislike for him. I simply don't care. Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines?

Anyways, i'm done. Not worth it. You can't win arguing with stupid people. You can feel and think what you want, and I can do the same.

cheers

3strokemx wrote:
Prado said the bike was the issue, so "Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines...

Prado said the bike was the issue, so "Why do you need to try and theorize everything as conspiracies and make assumptions reading between the lines? "
 

Jkawi wrote:
And Kawasaki said they were trying very hard to make the bike fit Jorge, but he was impossible to work with... As I said - he...

And Kawasaki said they were trying very hard to make the bike fit Jorge, but he was impossible to work with... As I said - he said, she said, she said, she said... One took the high road, one took the low road. I really don't care enough to argue about this with you guys anymore. I can think what I want based on the info out there, and so can you. Who really cares. You can be right if you want.

Refusing to discuss early exit is not high road.

Prado tried not to qualify, because Monster refused to discuss an early break up. Only after that attempt, was that discussion able to get going. Kawi claim they where ok with it, but who knows. Easy to put all the blame on Monster in that situation.

Please suggest the correct way if you dont agree with what Prado did, knowing the circumstances. And staying for 3 years riding it out, ain't it.

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@Mavetism you started this long winded shit show. Same things being said on page 26 as page 1, with no new facts in between, impressive! 😂

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@Mavetism you started this long winded shit show. Same things being said on page 26 as page 1, with no new facts in between, impressive! 😂

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TalinH112 wrote:

Ahh you have chosen the road less traveled around here, the high one. 

Calling someone stupid is taking the high road? 🤔 only on vital is that the “high road”…

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TalinH112 wrote:

Ahh you have chosen the road less traveled around here, the high one. 

Calling someone stupid is taking the high road? 🤔 only on vital is that the “high road”…

@Jimmy from NJ  not a single time in the post I quoted did @Jkawi call anyone stupid. So…. 🤷🏻

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Jkawi wrote:
You think him riding around with 1 hand or qualifying out of the top 40 was him riding on the edge of injury? Carson brown would...

You think him riding around with 1 hand or qualifying out of the top 40 was him riding on the edge of injury? Carson brown would have waxed him on an 85. If that was as fast as he could have gone without injury, it probably would have been wise to keep both hands on the bars and stand up... Come on man, the bike does not make that kind of a difference. I can setup any bike for myself with no experience or team to be able to ride at 95%... He didn't try. He gave up. He's spoiled. He is arrogant. He passes blame to everyone else but him. Not a fan of that type of human. If you want to be a fan, you are welcome too. Just trying to point out that most people here that are no longer fans of his are not complaining about his riding, they have an issue with his character. 

3strokemx wrote:
I'm not a George fan, I thought he was over hyped and wouldn't be a top 5 guy.It's hilarious to me that people listen to a...

I'm not a George fan, I thought he was over hyped and wouldn't be a top 5 guy.

It's hilarious to me that people listen to a rider interview and then decide, nope, he's full of shit, I know the real story.   Then get worked up when information and reasoning contradict the story they fabricated in their own mind.   

 

Jkawi wrote:
Are you serious? don't gaslight me. I saw what he did, and I have heard a bunch of statements from a number of people that explain...

Are you serious? don't gaslight me. I saw what he did, and I have heard a bunch of statements from a number of people that explain the situation pretty well. Well, good enough for me (and others with a mild level of intelligence) to connect the dots. This is a case of he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, etc. At some point you have to look at the probability of 1 person being right or a hundred people being wrong. I am sorry you still can't figure it out. Just because you want to ignore all of the information out there and put your tinfoil hat on doesn't mean that others are the ones being ignorant and jumping to conclusions. All you are doing is proving that you are incredibly stupid.

By the way, you didn't answer my question. Was he trying as hard or going as fast as he could without risking injury with one hand on the bars or not? 

That’s a reasonable take but there could be other possibilities.  

What if all the effort we saw from Kawi was only at the absolute insistence by Prado?  

Chad Reed himself said publicly not all was roses on the Kawasaki side.

Why would a guy like Prado, a multi time GP champion, display such extreme behaviour?

If you find yourself in a highly undesirable situation and there’s no reasonable way out the you start considering unreasonable options.  What Prado did many of us probably wouldn’t do but none of know the full picture.

Yes it’s possible Prado had a bruised ego and took an irrational course of action to minimise the damage to his reputation and it backfired spectacularly.  It’s also possible the bike just wasn’t up to scratch and Kawasaki either couldn’t or wouldn’t do enough to get around that but simultaneously refused to entertain any discussion of ending the contract.

I don’t know the likelihood of either of those and I suspect it will take many years to learn the truth, if at all.

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TalinH112 wrote:

Ahh you have chosen the road less traveled around here, the high one. 

Calling someone stupid is taking the high road? 🤔 only on vital is that the “high road”…

TalinH112 wrote:

@Jimmy from NJ  not a single time in the post I quoted did @Jkawi call anyone stupid. So…. 🤷🏻

I believe on page 4 though ,you did call someone a “doddler and a silly heart”

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beamer wrote:

MC didn’t have much good to say on the Jaxxon podcast that’s for sure . 

mxxxeR1 wrote:

 MC did the same with ktm when he didn't  like that bike....so he better keep his mouth shut....

Flatliner wrote:
I'm not sure how in the heck this got a bunch of likes.  Some short memories out there. First off, MC has earned the right to say...

I'm not sure how in the heck this got a bunch of likes.  Some short memories out there.

 

First off, MC has earned the right to say anything he likes,  and the sport is better for it.  Secondly, he did make a mistake signing with ktm for 03, when he had other options on the table, so that part is on him.  The bike though was nowhere near ready, and never became sx ready at all.  A bog off a jump dislocated MC's hip.  It was also two long years for GL trying to ride that thing, and his stock took a hit those couple seasons until a PC resurgence. 

Yaa KTM promised him an all new bike with a linkage for 03 and didn’t deliver. In his book he also says Yamaha offered him less then half of the 750k he was getting so he felt disrespected and said no. People downvoting you must be thinking that 03 KTM 250 2 stroke was competitive like the KTMs are nowadays lol

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Calling someone stupid is taking the high road? 🤔 only on vital is that the “high road”…

TalinH112 wrote:

@Jimmy from NJ  not a single time in the post I quoted did @Jkawi call anyone stupid. So…. 🤷🏻

I believe on page 4 though ,you did call someone a “doddler and a silly heart”

That’s pretty close to my daughters greatest insult, the dreaded “silly goose” 🤣

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10/25/2025 9:26am Edited Date/Time 10/25/2025 9:32am
TalinH112 wrote:

@Jimmy from NJ  not a single time in the post I quoted did @Jkawi call anyone stupid. So…. 🤷🏻

I believe on page 4 though ,you did call someone a “doddler and a silly heart”

TalinH112 wrote:

That’s pretty close to my daughters greatest insult, the dreaded “silly goose” 🤣

I was quoting the assistant principals office scene from the movie Uncle Buck! I did miss a bit on the doddler part though.😂

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I believe on page 4 though ,you did call someone a “doddler and a silly heart”

TalinH112 wrote:

That’s pretty close to my daughters greatest insult, the dreaded “silly goose” 🤣

I was quoting the assistant principals office scene from the movie Uncle Buck! I did miss a bit on the doddler part though.😂

What a Classic. 

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