Where are the chem trails?

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30minmotos wrote:
I should smoke some weed and become complacent and let all this shit happen and be a good sheep.Sounds solid bro.I appreciate you reminding me to...

I should smoke some weed and become complacent and let all this shit happen and be a good sheep.


Sounds solid bro.


I appreciate you reminding me to chill out occasionally though you’re right 100% but more people should become fired up about how bad it is so we can do something before it’s too late. 

It’s no accident weed and booze are legal. Keep us drunk lazy complacent and useless…

Most people don't get this far down the rabbit hole without smoking a little first lol.

Don't get too lost though, do what you can for yourself, make as many raw ingredient foods as you can, drink distilled water, use stainless steel or cast iron pans and glass storage containers, vote for politicians that will regulate forever chemicals.

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Give it 5, 10, 15 , 20 years and you’ll see, just like every single “conspiracy theory” you’ll see it’s true and was used against us...

Give it 5, 10, 15 , 20 years and you’ll see, just like every single “conspiracy theory” you’ll see it’s true and was used against us on purpose for profit and control.


Bonus question why is fluoride in the water?

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Probably not but it’s one of many tools they used to soften you in order to get the more monstrous ones through while you’re nice and...

Probably not but it’s one of many tools they used to soften you in order to get the more monstrous ones through while you’re nice and docile like a good little sheep.

Call me crazy, but I’d rather be stoned and oblivious than sober and paralyzingly paranoid.  

If you think they’re out to get you…they are…

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How? Mostly in the foods we ate every day. 

Why? People in the FDA are paid off. 

You are free to eat whole foods or artificial garbage.

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30minmotos wrote:
I should smoke some weed and become complacent and let all this shit happen and be a good sheep.Sounds solid bro.I appreciate you reminding me to...

I should smoke some weed and become complacent and let all this shit happen and be a good sheep.


Sounds solid bro.


I appreciate you reminding me to chill out occasionally though you’re right 100% but more people should become fired up about how bad it is so we can do something before it’s too late. 

It’s no accident weed and booze are legal. Keep us drunk lazy complacent and useless…

early wrote:
Most people don't get this far down the rabbit hole without smoking a little first lol.Don't get too lost though, do what you can for yourself...

Most people don't get this far down the rabbit hole without smoking a little first lol.

Don't get too lost though, do what you can for yourself, make as many raw ingredient foods as you can, drink distilled water, use stainless steel or cast iron pans and glass storage containers, vote for politicians that will regulate forever chemicals.

Dude rock on. You’re the man seriously every time you make me stop and laugh a little.

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10/17/2025 11:18am Edited Date/Time 10/17/2025 11:28am
30minmotos wrote:

His posting is just for funsies and trolling I guess? Sick. What a waste for all of us lmao

Yea he’s not invested in it whatsoever. He’s posting purely for reaction. I was thinking to myself that only a child could be so resolute in...

Yea he’s not invested in it whatsoever. He’s posting purely for reaction. I was thinking to myself that only a child could be so resolute in his own ignorance and naivety. Then I looked at his profile picture. If he’s not a child, he certainly takes pride in acting like one. 

avidchimp wrote:
Do you believe the earth is flat or round?And to 308's point, at least throw out some credible info to the contrary of what he is...

Do you believe the earth is flat or round?

And to 308's point, at least throw out some credible info to the contrary of what he is posting, as it is highly accurate to the discussion being had. 

Please go back and read through my posts in this thread. I haven’t offered much more than my personal opinion regarding the potential moral, social, economic, and ecological implications of weather modification. These are things I’m most interested in. 
 

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Please be aware that I’ve made no claims about chemtrails poisoning people nor have I defended anyone that has. 
 

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10/17/2025 11:21am Edited Date/Time 10/17/2025 11:21am
30minmotos wrote:
I should smoke some weed and become complacent and let all this shit happen and be a good sheep.Sounds solid bro.I appreciate you reminding me to...

I should smoke some weed and become complacent and let all this shit happen and be a good sheep.


Sounds solid bro.


I appreciate you reminding me to chill out occasionally though you’re right 100% but more people should become fired up about how bad it is so we can do something before it’s too late. 

It’s no accident weed and booze are legal. Keep us drunk lazy complacent and useless…

early wrote:
Most people don't get this far down the rabbit hole without smoking a little first lol.Don't get too lost though, do what you can for yourself...

Most people don't get this far down the rabbit hole without smoking a little first lol.

Don't get too lost though, do what you can for yourself, make as many raw ingredient foods as you can, drink distilled water, use stainless steel or cast iron pans and glass storage containers, vote for politicians that will regulate forever chemicals.

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Dude rock on. You’re the man seriously every time you make me stop and laugh a little.

We're here for a good time not a long time, make the most of it, live laugh love

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McG194 wrote:

How? Mostly in the foods we ate every day. 

Why? People in the FDA are paid off. 

308 wrote:

You are free to eat whole foods or artificial garbage.

Gosh, no. You’re like still missing it. Even the fda organic stamp is meaningless. Gates got the organic approval for lab grown meat and chemicals to coat your fruits with lmao.


you make it sound like we can go to the store and buy from the organic section or whatever high cut of meat off the shelf and avoid it.


it’s so far past that.


If it was as simple as you make it sound like; which is this avoid Oreos and fake drinks and buy kale and steak, I’d agree with you.


But the freaking meat is gone too.


Everyone telling me to chill out is right and I thank you for it.


It’s just insane though man. It’s sad honest to god.

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10/17/2025 11:40am Edited Date/Time 10/17/2025 12:09pm
30minmotos wrote:
Gosh, no. You’re like still missing it. Even the fda organic stamp is meaningless. Gates got the organic approval for lab grown meat and chemicals to...

Gosh, no. You’re like still missing it. Even the fda organic stamp is meaningless. Gates got the organic approval for lab grown meat and chemicals to coat your fruits with lmao.


you make it sound like we can go to the store and buy from the organic section or whatever high cut of meat off the shelf and avoid it.


it’s so far past that.


If it was as simple as you make it sound like; which is this avoid Oreos and fake drinks and buy kale and steak, I’d agree with you.


But the freaking meat is gone too.


Everyone telling me to chill out is right and I thank you for it.


It’s just insane though man. It’s sad honest to god.

I honestly don’t know exactly where my fruit and vegetables come from(I shop at Kroger and Whole Foods) but 90% of my meat comes from either the local Fareway(all locally sourced meat) or my parents farm after being sent to the local butcher. 
I rarely ever drink alcohol, eat fast food, or take drugs from strangers.

I know way too many people that smoke, drink, and eat absolute shit and still make it to 75+ to be too paranoid of what I'm putting in my body. 
I still choose to eat a few Reese's every once in awhile.

 

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308 wrote:
I honestly don’t know exactly where my fruit and vegetables come from(I shop at Kroger and Whole Foods) but 90% of my meat comes from either...

I honestly don’t know exactly where my fruit and vegetables come from(I shop at Kroger and Whole Foods) but 90% of my meat comes from either the local Fareway(all locally sourced meat) or my parents farm after being sent to the local butcher. 
I rarely ever drink alcohol, eat fast food, or take drugs from strangers.

I know way too many people that smoke, drink, and eat absolute shit and still make it to 75+ to be too paranoid of what I'm putting in my body. 
I still choose to eat a few Reese's every once in awhile.

 

for a quick second i thought i read you got your meat from the local freeway. i was like dude either likes roadkill or those cheap steaks

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The food, the water, the led lights, the cell phones, the plastic, the teflon in everything, the clothes made of teflon and composites we breathe in...

The food, the water, the led lights, the cell phones, the plastic, the teflon in everything, the clothes made of teflon and composites we breathe in every day, the lotions, the medicine 


All of it purposely has damaging chemicals added to it…hmmm why would they do that.


Idk what the point of these conversations are sometimes. I just hope someone cruises through that maybe was on the fence and gets exposed to some of the truth and it helps them keep themselves and their families safe.


That’s honestly the only useful thing I can pretend to take from typing out all these words.


They mean nothing to you, you’re locked in, but maybe someone it helps.


So much suffering because of bad people at the top, but yeah it’s all good bro.

308 wrote:
In a free society, you have the ability to make choices about your life, from the food you eat, clothes you wear, and activities you take...

In a free society, you have the ability to make choices about your life, from the food you eat, clothes you wear, and activities you take part in.
Freedom is not absolute and it has consequences.

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Not really in this case especially when it’s lied and hidden from us.And you literally cant avoid it as they are pumping it into the water...

Not really in this case especially when it’s lied and hidden from us.


And you literally cant avoid it as they are pumping it into the water, and the clouds, so it’s literally everywhere.


They have found the teflon materials in water in untouched areas in the Amazon. 

The molecule is in our blood streams and is more deadly in smaller doses than lead.


You say we can just avoid it. As if the entire supermarket isn’t carrying what I’m describing.


Fine avoid the supermarket?


They’re spraying it into the clouds and it’s pumped into our water, once it’s in the water imagine that it makes it back into the clouds. It’s literally being forced upon us.



But yeah bro, just raise your own cow and avoid it.



It’s everywhere. And they’re doing it. And you’re acting like they aren’t and that’s the part that kills me. 

"They’re spraying it into the clouds and it’s pumped into our water, once it’s in the water imagine that it makes it back into the clouds. It’s literally being forced upon us."

Unless the solid can sublimate (easily become a gas), it ain't making it to the clouds.

 

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308 wrote:
In a free society, you have the ability to make choices about your life, from the food you eat, clothes you wear, and activities you take...

In a free society, you have the ability to make choices about your life, from the food you eat, clothes you wear, and activities you take part in.
Freedom is not absolute and it has consequences.

Screenshot 2025-10-17 120502.png?VersionId=biG6awebl 2dYRElXNa
 

30minmotos wrote:
Not really in this case especially when it’s lied and hidden from us.And you literally cant avoid it as they are pumping it into the water...

Not really in this case especially when it’s lied and hidden from us.


And you literally cant avoid it as they are pumping it into the water, and the clouds, so it’s literally everywhere.


They have found the teflon materials in water in untouched areas in the Amazon. 

The molecule is in our blood streams and is more deadly in smaller doses than lead.


You say we can just avoid it. As if the entire supermarket isn’t carrying what I’m describing.


Fine avoid the supermarket?


They’re spraying it into the clouds and it’s pumped into our water, once it’s in the water imagine that it makes it back into the clouds. It’s literally being forced upon us.



But yeah bro, just raise your own cow and avoid it.



It’s everywhere. And they’re doing it. And you’re acting like they aren’t and that’s the part that kills me. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
"They’re spraying it into the clouds and it’s pumped into our water, once it’s in the water imagine that it makes it back into the clouds...

"They’re spraying it into the clouds and it’s pumped into our water, once it’s in the water imagine that it makes it back into the clouds. It’s literally being forced upon us."

Unless the solid can sublimate (easily become a gas), it ain't making it to the clouds.

 

Look into the forever chemicals… how’d they make it to the Amazon… why’s it in everything…. On purpose…. Why…..

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZUrjimBC7U&pp=ygUXZHVwb250IGNoZW1pY2FsIHNjYW5kYWw%3D

TLDR DuPont creates teflon. Teflon gets proven to cause cancer and worse. They cover it up even though they knew it for years and years before it came to light.  They get sued, they change the molecule just enough to continue selling it but now it’s not the same as the one with the law suits. Still with the same damaging properties but you’ll have to prove it and build the case again: get caught again, change it again.


Oh and it gets into every part of your body and can’t be removed from your body or the environment. But yeah nah just keep putting it into every product..: still, to this day…. Why.




Instead of maybe just not freaking poisoning all of us…

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30minmotos wrote:
Not really in this case especially when it’s lied and hidden from us.And you literally cant avoid it as they are pumping it into the water...

Not really in this case especially when it’s lied and hidden from us.


And you literally cant avoid it as they are pumping it into the water, and the clouds, so it’s literally everywhere.


They have found the teflon materials in water in untouched areas in the Amazon. 

The molecule is in our blood streams and is more deadly in smaller doses than lead.


You say we can just avoid it. As if the entire supermarket isn’t carrying what I’m describing.


Fine avoid the supermarket?


They’re spraying it into the clouds and it’s pumped into our water, once it’s in the water imagine that it makes it back into the clouds. It’s literally being forced upon us.



But yeah bro, just raise your own cow and avoid it.



It’s everywhere. And they’re doing it. And you’re acting like they aren’t and that’s the part that kills me. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
"They’re spraying it into the clouds and it’s pumped into our water, once it’s in the water imagine that it makes it back into the clouds...

"They’re spraying it into the clouds and it’s pumped into our water, once it’s in the water imagine that it makes it back into the clouds. It’s literally being forced upon us."

Unless the solid can sublimate (easily become a gas), it ain't making it to the clouds.

 

30minmotos wrote:

Look into the forever chemicals… how’d they make it to the Amazon… why’s it in everything…. On purpose…. Why…..

Physics is hard, I know, but if it doesn't sublimate, it isn't evaporating into the atmosphere. 

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
"They’re spraying it into the clouds and it’s pumped into our water, once it’s in the water imagine that it makes it back into the clouds...

"They’re spraying it into the clouds and it’s pumped into our water, once it’s in the water imagine that it makes it back into the clouds. It’s literally being forced upon us."

Unless the solid can sublimate (easily become a gas), it ain't making it to the clouds.

 

30minmotos wrote:

Look into the forever chemicals… how’d they make it to the Amazon… why’s it in everything…. On purpose…. Why…..

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Physics is hard, I know, but if it doesn't sublimate, it isn't evaporating into the atmosphere. 

This is where you tap out and just say yep, I guess 2+2 = 9, Karl.

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30minmotos wrote:

Look into the forever chemicals… how’d they make it to the Amazon… why’s it in everything…. On purpose…. Why…..

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Physics is hard, I know, but if it doesn't sublimate, it isn't evaporating into the atmosphere. 

avidchimp wrote:

This is where you tap out and just say yep, I guess 2+2 = 9, Karl.

Copied that, Trav.

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Physics is hard, I know, but if it doesn't sublimate, it isn't evaporating into the atmosphere. 

avidchimp wrote:

This is where you tap out and just say yep, I guess 2+2 = 9, Karl.

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Copied that, Trav.

Upgrading to windows 11 will  give them complete control over us. Don't do it.

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I guess semantics bro. Get hung up on whatever you want that makes you feel better. Forest for the trees and glass houses win every time, ya dig.

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Ooof!

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I'm pretty sure climate altering schemes have been tested.  Causing a flood or a drought was entirely possible but the unintended consequences were incalculable and not at all beneficial.  I never lie.  Believe it or don't. 

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First time I've ever heard someone lose an argument by calling physics semantic.

Nicely done, lad.

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:

First time I've ever heard someone lose an argument by calling physics semantic.

Nicely done, lad.

!!!!!

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:

First time I've ever heard someone lose an argument by calling physics semantic.

Nicely done, lad.

!!!!!

Hahahaha! 👍

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You guys are missing it regardless, if that’s your big win that pulls apart the entire discussion that checks out.

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Yes it has, case in point. Human nature, greed profit and control. I do appreciate you proving my point for me. Profit, and power

308 wrote:
Well, then wheel your ass to the nearest Amish farm.I'll take the risks of living in the 21 century with all of the scary inevitable tradeoffs...

Well, then wheel your ass to the nearest Amish farm.
I'll take the risks of living in the 21 century with all of the scary inevitable tradeoffs nobody can control. Not even the government.
I'll continue to eat healthy, stay active, and try not to huff too much two-stoke exhaust. 
Human nature, greed, profit and control are not going anywhere. 

There is our difference. You see don’t want government touching my water, air, and food. I make the distinction on wither the outcome is worth it or not. In this case hell no. But that’s why we’re here. Good talk 

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McG194 wrote:

I'm not saying that I believe in the chem trails conspiracy theory, all I'm saying is that I've yet to see a conspiracy theory debunked. 🤣 

borg wrote:
That's because the conspirators do their best at coming up with unfalsifiable claims. For example: There is one of Elvis's used condoms on Jupiter.  Prove there...

That's because the conspirators do their best at coming up with unfalsifiable claims. For example: There is one of Elvis's used condoms on Jupiter.  Prove there isn't. 

LoudLove wrote:

Exactly. It’s impossible to disprove the existence of something that’s never been proven to exist in the first place. 

That is why religion has existed since the dawn of civilization.  Religion and chem trails.

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Human innovation comes with a price. Our ability to analyze and counteract dangerous diseases has extended lifespans and improved overall quality of life. However, these same techniques sometimes lower natural immunities and produce side effects. This is undisputed. 

Where the paths diverge is whether these actions have malicious intent. A global conspiracy spanning decades would be difficult to keep silent, especially one that deliberately causes harm.  Few initiatives have zero side effects, and it’s up to the individual whether they want to assume the risk. 

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LoudLove wrote:
Human innovation comes with a price. Our ability to analyze and counteract dangerous diseases has extended lifespans and improved overall quality of life. However, these same...

Human innovation comes with a price. Our ability to analyze and counteract dangerous diseases has extended lifespans and improved overall quality of life. However, these same techniques sometimes lower natural immunities and produce side effects. This is undisputed. 

Where the paths diverge is whether these actions have malicious intent. A global conspiracy spanning decades would be difficult to keep silent, especially one that deliberately causes harm.  Few initiatives have zero side effects, and it’s up to the individual whether they want to assume the risk. 

They aren’t even keeping it silent. They tell you their plans, they follow the plans, and everyone still debates if it’s malicious.

 

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