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motomike137 9/30/2025 5:55pm
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Shaft721 wrote:
Cooper suprises people and gets a top 6 in a moto.One of the lawrence bros has a bad moto and the US wins by 1 point...

Cooper suprises people and gets a top 6 in a moto.

One of the lawrence bros has a bad moto and the US wins by 1 point!!! USA USA USA 

He got 4th overall at Red Bud 2022 in moto 2. I was team J Coop that year when a lot of folks didn't believe in him. I felt that if got a good start he could hang which has always been his mo. That year in the wet it really mattered. This year could be a different story in the dry.  We need a repeat of that performance or even better he is best 250 both times out and we only need one good one out of RJ. I'm counting on two podiums out of Tomac. 

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creature654 9/30/2025 7:29pm
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With 38 out I just don’t see us winning, he was going to have to be the team leader like RV in 07. Love Jcoop but I don’t think he’ll win mx2 and I don’t have a lot of faith in RJ. Eli has been so hit and miss this year, is what it is I guess.

I think it comes down to BEL vs AUS, it’d be an upset but I hope the twins pull off something spectacular to knock Jett’s team off the top

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With 38 out I just don’t see us winning, he was going to have to be the team leader like RV in 07. Love Jcoop but...

With 38 out I just don’t see us winning, he was going to have to be the team leader like RV in 07. Love Jcoop but I don’t think he’ll win mx2 and I don’t have a lot of faith in RJ. Eli has been so hit and miss this year, is what it is I guess.

I think it comes down to BEL vs AUS, it’d be an upset but I hope the twins pull off something spectacular to knock Jett’s team off the top

Any team with Eli Tomac in it already has a leader.

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I’m not surprised everyone has Oz as favourites after the US changes, but has there ever been a team expected to win with a member who...

I’m not surprised everyone has Oz as favourites after the US changes, but has there ever been a team expected to win with a member who doesn’t race either premier series, and is not even in his normal class? 
Obviously the brothers are elite, but the pressure on Webster blows me away. 

Webster has built a reputation for being calm under fire. Whether it’s mud, deep ruts, or sketchy starts, he settles in quickly and rides his own race. That composure helps in chaotic MXON motos. Out of all our riders (other than the Lawrences), I trust him the most to keep his composure. 

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Press516 9/30/2025 7:52pm
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Shaft721 wrote:
Cooper suprises people and gets a top 6 in a moto.One of the lawrence bros has a bad moto and the US wins by 1 point...

Cooper suprises people and gets a top 6 in a moto.

One of the lawrence bros has a bad moto and the US wins by 1 point!!! USA USA USA 

motomike137 wrote:
He got 4th overall at Red Bud 2022 in moto 2. I was team J Coop that year when a lot of folks didn't believe in...

He got 4th overall at Red Bud 2022 in moto 2. I was team J Coop that year when a lot of folks didn't believe in him. I felt that if got a good start he could hang which has always been his mo. That year in the wet it really mattered. This year could be a different story in the dry.  We need a repeat of that performance or even better he is best 250 both times out and we only need one good one out of RJ. I'm counting on two podiums out of Tomac. 

In moto 2, RJ should be top 3.  Hunter and Renaux are about it…. Yes, there are some guys that could lay one down, like Everts.  But I don’t see anyone else in there that I would automatically put ahead of RJ.

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THE mx addict 10/1/2025 2:08am
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creature654 wrote:
With 38 out I just don’t see us winning, he was going to have to be the team leader like RV in 07. Love Jcoop but...

With 38 out I just don’t see us winning, he was going to have to be the team leader like RV in 07. Love Jcoop but I don’t think he’ll win mx2 and I don’t have a lot of faith in RJ. Eli has been so hit and miss this year, is what it is I guess.

I think it comes down to BEL vs AUS, it’d be an upset but I hope the twins pull off something spectacular to knock Jett’s team off the top

I don't see team Belgium fighting for the win this year.

Everts has not the speed to be up front, and Sacha Coenen will have to stay on two wheels...

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I reckon Lucas Coenen will kick arse and get on the podium.

Think Jo has some serious 450 speed too.

Think Jett will go 1 - 1 but maybe Hunta has problems with Coenen and Jo

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LP31 wrote:
I reckon Lucas Coenen will kick arse and get on the podium.Think Jo has some serious 450 speed too.Think Jett will go 1 - 1 but...

I reckon Lucas Coenen will kick arse and get on the podium.

Think Jo has some serious 450 speed too.

Think Jett will go 1 - 1 but maybe Hunta has problems with Coenen and Jo

I don't think Japan will make it to the main races on Sunday.

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LP31 10/1/2025 4:01am
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LP31 wrote:
I reckon Lucas Coenen will kick arse and get on the podium.Think Jo has some serious 450 speed too.Think Jett will go 1 - 1 but...

I reckon Lucas Coenen will kick arse and get on the podium.

Think Jo has some serious 450 speed too.

Think Jett will go 1 - 1 but maybe Hunta has problems with Coenen and Jo

DeStouwer wrote:

I don't think Japan will make it to the main races on Sunday.

Not japan just Jo individual results

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LP31 wrote:
I reckon Lucas Coenen will kick arse and get on the podium.Think Jo has some serious 450 speed too.Think Jett will go 1 - 1 but...

I reckon Lucas Coenen will kick arse and get on the podium.

Think Jo has some serious 450 speed too.

Think Jett will go 1 - 1 but maybe Hunta has problems with Coenen and Jo

Completely agree on Lucas, this kid is younger than Deegan and could go 1-1 on a 450 against the best. Jet gets bad starts I think Lucas has a very good chance of being the overall 

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jaun 10/1/2025 4:32am
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I feel like everyone is sleeping on Germany, I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the podium 

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teamddr 10/1/2025 4:38am
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jaun wrote:

I feel like everyone is sleeping on Germany, I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the podium 

Bit like Belgium, one rider short for the overall but could podium. 

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Paul_Jacky 10/1/2025 4:55am
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Who needs porn nowadays,reading trough this build up is orgasmic 


The 250 goes to de Wolf  

Jet wins the open class and maybe gajser can take podium on 450. 

I think it’s still anyone games Vlaanderen will be scrapped coldenhoff and de wolf could finish high 

 

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jaun wrote:

I feel like everyone is sleeping on Germany, I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the podium 

We would really need a hero ride from Spies though and based on his MXGP races this year I don't really see him breaking into the top 15th a the MXON with that many good riders. But everything is possible of course.

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teamddr 10/1/2025 5:01am
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Love these threads, the MXON is the best race of the year. 

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DeStouwer 10/1/2025 5:14am
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jaun wrote:

I feel like everyone is sleeping on Germany, I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the podium 

I would be surprised if they make it to the top 5. Only Längenfelder seems a certainty for steady results. Spies is good, but not a worldclass rider and Roczen... yeah, what about him? Only raced one National, so I'm not sure if he will have the pace to race 30 mins + 2 laps (twice) at the level of the Aussies, Tomac, Febvre, Coenen, Gajser and others.

Australia, USA, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy and maybe even Spain seem stronger (in theory).

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jaun wrote:

I feel like everyone is sleeping on Germany, I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the podium 

DeStouwer wrote:
I would be surprised if they make it to the top 5. Only Längenfelder seems a certainty for steady results. Spies is good, but not a...

I would be surprised if they make it to the top 5. Only Längenfelder seems a certainty for steady results. Spies is good, but not a worldclass rider and Roczen... yeah, what about him? Only raced one National, so I'm not sure if he will have the pace to race 30 mins + 2 laps (twice) at the level of the Aussies, Tomac, Febvre, Coenen, Gajser and others.

Australia, USA, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy and maybe even Spain seem stronger (in theory).

Kenny is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you gonna get. He also only rode one national in 2023 and then won the MXGP class. He's been injured obviously this year but he was sneaky good in SMX, wouldn't be surprised if he gets into the top 5th in both motos but also wouldn't be surprised if he fades back to like 10th. Anyways, even with Kennys and Simons best effort the podium range with Spies seems out of hand and will likely need other teams to have their problems. Anyways, still rooting for these bad MFers.

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And just think, by how much, and for how many, are the track views going to be ruined by The Luongo Drongo's ridiculously High Trackside / Track lining Sponsor banners.

They should reduce their size by at least a third in height.

It's OK for we watchers on screens, but, often, a real downer for race attendees to be left with buggerall 'viewage'.

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THE mx addict 10/1/2025 9:08am
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jaun wrote:

I feel like everyone is sleeping on Germany, I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the podium 

Top 3 for Germany? Not realistic with Spies as the 3rd rider of the 2025 squad.

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Press516 10/1/2025 2:06pm
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LP31 wrote:
I reckon Lucas Coenen will kick arse and get on the podium.Think Jo has some serious 450 speed too.Think Jett will go 1 - 1 but...

I reckon Lucas Coenen will kick arse and get on the podium.

Think Jo has some serious 450 speed too.

Think Jett will go 1 - 1 but maybe Hunta has problems with Coenen and Jo

DeStouwer wrote:

I don't think Japan will make it to the main races on Sunday.

LP31 wrote:

Not japan just Jo individual results

If they don’t qualify for the A finals, he won’t be in them.

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 Mirtle & Coenen Brothers VS Lawrence Family 

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DeStouwer wrote:

I don't think Japan will make it to the main races on Sunday.

LP31 wrote:

Not japan just Jo individual results

Press516 wrote:

If they don’t qualify for the A finals, he won’t be in them.

They should put Jo in mx3 so he can finish super well in the qualifying race. I’d think he could run 3-5? Where in Mxgp he puts up a 5-10? Get a lower score on the board then he’ll also be in the mx2 / mx3 moto which he could do very well. 

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Press516 10/1/2025 4:53pm
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LP31 wrote:

Not japan just Jo individual results

Press516 wrote:

If they don’t qualify for the A finals, he won’t be in them.

NicNak wrote:
They should put Jo in mx3 so he can finish super well in the qualifying race. I’d think he could run 3-5? Where in Mxgp he...

They should put Jo in mx3 so he can finish super well in the qualifying race. I’d think he could run 3-5? Where in Mxgp he puts up a 5-10? Get a lower score on the board then he’ll also be in the mx2 / mx3 moto which he could do very well. 

Anything Jo picks up in Open would likely be lost by his 450 teammate in MXGP.  Jo’s scores would be good enough either way.  And he probably wins the B Final Sunday morning.  It’s all on his teammates to put low enough scores for them to advance.   They can get there, just have to perform.

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LP31 wrote:
I reckon Lucas Coenen will kick arse and get on the podium.Think Jo has some serious 450 speed too.Think Jett will go 1 - 1 but...

I reckon Lucas Coenen will kick arse and get on the podium.

Think Jo has some serious 450 speed too.

Think Jett will go 1 - 1 but maybe Hunta has problems with Coenen and Jo

DeStouwer wrote:

I don't think Japan will make it to the main races on Sunday.

I don't know. 

They were tied on points with Estonia last year on Saturday. One less point and they make it straight in. And that's without Jo.

It won't be easy but last year 31 points was the cutoff for A final. If Jo finishes 5th in open ONE of his teammates would need a 25th or better. They should be able to do that. Of course if Jo has a bad Saturday like he did at Redbud they're in trouble 

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DeStouwer 10/2/2025 1:18am
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LP31 wrote:
I reckon Lucas Coenen will kick arse and get on the podium.Think Jo has some serious 450 speed too.Think Jett will go 1 - 1 but...

I reckon Lucas Coenen will kick arse and get on the podium.

Think Jo has some serious 450 speed too.

Think Jett will go 1 - 1 but maybe Hunta has problems with Coenen and Jo

DeStouwer wrote:

I don't think Japan will make it to the main races on Sunday.

crusty_xx wrote:
I don't know. They were tied on points with Estonia last year on Saturday. One less point and they make it straight in. And that's without Jo.It...

I don't know. 

They were tied on points with Estonia last year on Saturday. One less point and they make it straight in. And that's without Jo.

It won't be easy but last year 31 points was the cutoff for A final. If Jo finishes 5th in open ONE of his teammates would need a 25th or better. They should be able to do that. Of course if Jo has a bad Saturday like he did at Redbud they're in trouble 

Don't get me wrong, I hope they do. Same for South Africa because I want McLellan to be there on Sunday 😁

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moto111 10/2/2025 1:40am
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DeStouwer wrote:

I don't think Japan will make it to the main races on Sunday.

crusty_xx wrote:
I don't know. They were tied on points with Estonia last year on Saturday. One less point and they make it straight in. And that's without Jo.It...

I don't know. 

They were tied on points with Estonia last year on Saturday. One less point and they make it straight in. And that's without Jo.

It won't be easy but last year 31 points was the cutoff for A final. If Jo finishes 5th in open ONE of his teammates would need a 25th or better. They should be able to do that. Of course if Jo has a bad Saturday like he did at Redbud they're in trouble 

DeStouwer wrote:

Don't get me wrong, I hope they do. Same for South Africa because I want McLellan to be there on Sunday 😁

I will be happy, no wait...f'ing ecstatic, if South Africa make the A mains !!

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Press516 wrote:
Anything Jo picks up in Open would likely be lost by his 450 teammate in MXGP.  Jo’s scores would be good enough either way.  And he...

Anything Jo picks up in Open would likely be lost by his 450 teammate in MXGP.  Jo’s scores would be good enough either way.  And he probably wins the B Final Sunday morning.  It’s all on his teammates to put low enough scores for them to advance.   They can get there, just have to perform.

Either way it's going to be cool to see Jo on a 450 Smile To me he is another one of those guys who should be on one sooner than later. 

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Top 10 lowest scores since 2015 

14 = France (2015 & 2023)
16 = USA (2015 & 2022) 
18 = Netherlands (2019)
20 = France (2017)
23 = France (2022)
26 = Australia (2022 & 2024)
29 = France (2016) & USA (2024)
30 = Netherlands (2016)
31 = Netherlands (2017)
32 = Great-Britain (2016) / France (2018)

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kaidodragon 10/2/2025 4:32am
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Top 5 since 2015 

2015 Ernée (France) 

1/ Romain Febvre-Marvin Musquin-Gautier Paulin 
2/ Justin Barcia-Jeremy Martin-Cooper Webb
3/ Ken De Dycker-Julien Lieber-Jeremy Van Horebeek
4/ Priit Ratsep-Harri Kullas-Tanel Leok
5/ Valentin Guillod-Jeremy Seewer-Andy Baumgartnee 

2016, Maggiora (Italy) 

1/ Romain Febvre-Benoit Paturel-Gautier Paulin 
2/ Glenn Coldenhoff-Brian Bogers-Jeffrey Herlings 
3/ Cooper Webb-Alex Martin-Jason Anderson
4/ Kevin Strijbos-Jeremy Van Horebeek-Brent Van Doninck
5/ Antonio Cairoli-Samuele Bernardini-Michele Cervellin 

2017 Matterley Basin (United Kingdom) 

1/ Gautier Paulin-Christophe Charlier-Romain Febvre 
2/ Glenn Coldenhoff-Brian Bogers-Jeffrey Herlings 
3/ Max Anstie-Tommy Searle-Dean Wilson
4/ Jeremy Van Horebeek-Brent Van Doninck-Kevin Strijbos
5/ Arnaud Tonus-Valentin Guillod-Jeremy Seewer 

2018 Red Bud (USA 

1/ Gautier Paulin-Dylan Ferrandis-Jordi Tixier 
2/ Jeffrey Herlings-Calvin Vlaanderen-Glenn Coldenhoff 
3/ Tommy Searle-Ben Watson-Max Anstie
4/ Kirk Gibbs-Hunter Lawrence-Mitchell Evans
5/ Eli Tomac-Aaron Plessinger-Justin Barcia 

2019 Assen (Netherlands) 

1/ Jeffrey Herlings-Calvin Vlaanderen-Glenn Coldenhoff 
2/ Jeremy Van Horebeek-Jago Geerts-Kevin Strijbos 
3/ Nathan Watson-Adam Sterry-Shaun Simpson 
4/ Tanel Leok-Priit Ratsep-Harri Kullas
5/ Gautier Paulin-Maxime Renaux-Jordi Tixier 

2021 Mantova (Italy) 

1/ Antonio Cairoli-Mattia Guadagnini-Alessandro Lupino 
2/ Glenn Coldenhoff-Roan Van De Moosdijk-Jeffrey Herlings
3/ Ben Watson-Conrad Mewse-Shaun Simpson 
4/ Vsevolod Brylyakov-Timur Petrashin-Evgeny Bobryshev
5/ Benoit Patuel-Tom Vialle-Mathys Boisrame 

2022 Red Bud (USA) 

1/ Eli Tomac-Justin Cooper-Chase Sexton
2/ Maxime Renaux-Marvin Musquin-Dylan Ferrandis
3/ Mitchell Evans-Hunter Lawrence-Jett Lawrence 
4/ Antonio Cairoli-Andrea Adamo-Mattia Guadagnini 
5/ Jago Geerts-Liam Everts-Jeremy Van Horebeek 

2023 Ernée (France) 

1/ Romain Febvre-Tom Vialle-Maxime Renaux 
2/ Jett Lawrence-Hunter Lawrence-Dean Ferris
3/ Alberto Forato-Andrea Adamo-Andrea Bonacorsi 
4/ Ken Roczen-Simon Laengenfelder-Tom Koch
5/ Jago Geerts-Lucas Coenen-Liam Everts 

2024 Matterley Basin (United Kingdom) 

1/ Hunter Lawrence-Kyle Webster-Jett Lawrence 
2/ Eli Tomac-Cooper Webb-Aaron Plessinger
3/ Jeffrey Herlings-Kay De Wolf-Glenn Coldenhoff 
4/ Jorge Prado Garcia-Oriol Oliver-Ruben Fernandez
5/ Romain Febvre-Tom Vialle-Maxime Renaux

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