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What type of law do you practice? Honest question not trolling. That’s some interesting(for a lack of better word) take on contracts. You think a corporation the size of Kawasaki hasn’t taken contra proferentem into account? You don’t think they will have a no presumption clause? As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I have never seen a pro riders contract but I would be more than shocked to not see massive protection for Kawasaki. I’m on my phone so I’m not trying to type a book but I’ve seen 100s of contracts for business and 99.99% of the time the large corporation has way more protection than the smaller party.
I would think we could both agree the chances of this going to court are 0%. It’s pure hypothetically if Kawasaki would try to recoup money. I don’t believe they would sue for breach and instead agree to end mutually.
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Well said.
Should be interesting to watch from here. Clearly Prado wants to be gone from Kawi. His comments.. effort.. not cool imo. The rest will be .... a lot of drama. Atty's love drama... they create it intentionally (oh you’re my client – look how hard I m fighting for you!... LOL).. then bill against the reply to the response by the other attorney to the drama they created. Apposing attorney is in on the deal.... Rince and repeat. Over and over... till client is out of money. Or the atty’s feel they “worked the file” long enough to get what they feel is the $ out of it they deserve. It is part of the circus.. But never promise a result! Got to love atty's! Can't find another profession where you get away with this stuff. Amazing.
Judges used to be atty’s in the same county so they don’t want to upset the apple cart… that they were part of not too long ago. After all these are their friends on either side of the dispute. They all go to the same holiday parties… have drinks and hang out. Business as usual in the law game. Unless it’s your first time. Then you… well you get played. “We’re fighting for you. They don’t have a leg to stand on.. you should fight this. That’s not legal”. Meanwhile they had dinner with the atty on the other side two weeks ago as he’s a long time friend. You probably got billed for it too!
To me the real curious thing to watch is how does Prado due on his old brand? Do his results improve? They better... or he's going to look like a.... fill in the blank.....
Coming weeks will be interesting. Lets see how it plays out.  
I think the thought process people may be missing with Prado is by him not trying is, in his head that’s why he didn’t beat Jett. If he goes out there and tries on a bike he says he’s not comfortable on all year and is no where near Jett that’s what everyone will think, he can’t beat Jett. This way, he may think this looks better than trying and getting beat all year. I do believe he thinks he can beat Jett outdoors, just not on that bike. I don’t agree with it but I could see this flawed thinking from someone that is used to winning since he was a kid.
I have to respect the decision to bet on yourself and give up the easy money. It opens a spot on the team for someone who would love to have it and put way more effort into. This is a huge gamble for both sides. If he goes out there and battles for wins it’s not a good look for Kawi. Likewise if it doesn’t work out on a KTM, Kawi comes out on top and Jorge looks twice as bad.
One thing is for sure, he can’t setup a motorcycle. That bike looked like he was trying to turn a Mack truck. I’m sure most of us noticed it.
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The turning comment is the same that one of the factory MXGP riders communicated to Lewis. Think he illustrated it with an oil tanker trying to turn in the suez canal 😂
If Monster is the reason getting out of his contract is tricky, any chance he ends up on a Monster KTM deal? Not under the factory tent, but kind of a side deal? Factory machine, but not under the main rig?
Maybe even Team Tedder? Isn't Hill Monster/KTM combo?
I think Monster and Kawi are very smart.
Release him after mxdn so he cant race the ktm
Most likely make him pull his head in from bad mouthing the bike. ie why they didnt release him yet…
They had Oscar at Club all the time testing and Tickle testing in Cali. Don't think there was any shortage of engine specs, suspension settings etc
You don't think they have offset cups, different gearbox ratios, it is a factory team!
Tickle was testing endless motor specs and testing in 3rd gear alot with low revs
Yes old Kawi was harder to sway making changes ie Weimer and Tomac with the cable clutch instead of Hydro, dont think Kawi is now.
I think he will struggle on the production spec of the KTM too.
No works frames, production frames only and KTM is having shock issues too.
Not a lawyer, don't even have a college degree, and I have no idea (nor any real interest) in discovering the definition of the legal terms you used in your comment. I don't like courtrooms or their sticky-fingered machinations one little bit. I've merely both been sued for breach and have sued for breach - and have won all of my endless-sleepless-night battles - and always against the larger, very deep-pocketed, party that drafted the contracts. It's from these soul-crushingly painful experiences that I know that courts look at the drafting party with a less forgiving eye.
That's as much disclosure as you'll get from me.
I certainly agree with you that this will never see a courtroom. Kawasaki will move on, as will Prado, with both suffering severe damage to their reputations that they are difficult to work with and should be best avoided in the future, albeit for different reasons. If I were Prado, I'd spend the rest of my career in MXGP, as he'll never hear anything here in the States but boos. He's toxic now. My comment(s) surrounded the seeming presumption some here have made that Kawasaki has the legal right to alter a contract they drafted in order to punish Prado as a means of sending a message to other riders not to speak their minds - because Kawasaki can't do any of that without Prado's express written permission. This little itty-bitty, teeny-weeny, bit of law, I know quite well, unfortunately.
That's all.
I would caution that your experiences are not reflective of most. It’s normally the little man getting shafted.
Maybe the fact that MXGP guys run custom chassis’s among other things and that no matter what they do to the bike with a stock chassis here, he’s never gonna feel comfortable. Maybe he’s looking for a feel/comfortability that’s just not attainable with a stock chassis.
Could be. I think that is something that isn’t talked about or analyzed enough. Being able to make a custom frame to the track and or rider has to be quite the advantage. You look at Vialle and he’s still riding the old frame here in the US because he likes it better. If Tomac had the option I bet he would be riding the 22’ frame. MXGP doesn’t have to deal with making a production bike feel comfortable at pro pace. We are stuck changing engine hangers.
Febvre is on a production frame & swingarm all of last year & this year 🤷♂️
A Kawi with a production frame is leading the MXGP world championship right now. It can’t be that bad.
Edit: ^^what he said. beat me to it.
Someone better call Febvre quick and tell him to slow down! (Maybe Prado already did)
Ok, that’s fine what about Prado? We’re discussing Prado not Febvre. I thought it was already brought up long ago that Prado was on a custom chassis. Is that correct?
Yes but Prado needs a faster engine than everyone else to win here.
anyone else noticed Prado has changed his Instagram Bio and Profile Photo Just normal fox gear in the photo now and no mention of monster energy kawasaki in bio
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I can`t see him at ME`s website 🤔
I think the ME´s website is not updated, because Jo still there, same for Ferrandis
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