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ohh_454 wrote:

So how do you get a podium race winner? They pay one top guy like Marchbanks, Phil, or JMart and the rest pay?

truck wrote:
ML somewhere on here recently posted what he thought the breakdown was and it was only 1 or two guys paying and most getting paid at...

ML somewhere on here recently posted what he thought the breakdown was and it was only 1 or two guys paying and most getting paid at club. 

Makes sense in a lot of ways. Get the infrastructure and resources that would have cost you anyway and the legitimacy of being on real team. Bet on yourself and see what you can do. One step above the privateer support programs that have no shame in transporting bikes and providing a semi for a fee. 

Win win situation for the team. You take their money and get to claim any success they might have as yours. Nobody holds it against you if they fail and fade away. 

I wonder how many of these teams fund a good part of their budget this way? 

ML512 wrote:

Looks like their structure will be four riders for 2026 now. Two with salary, one without salary but all stuff covered, last one...unsure.

Who’s the last one?

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truck wrote:
ML somewhere on here recently posted what he thought the breakdown was and it was only 1 or two guys paying and most getting paid at...

ML somewhere on here recently posted what he thought the breakdown was and it was only 1 or two guys paying and most getting paid at club. 

Makes sense in a lot of ways. Get the infrastructure and resources that would have cost you anyway and the legitimacy of being on real team. Bet on yourself and see what you can do. One step above the privateer support programs that have no shame in transporting bikes and providing a semi for a fee. 

Win win situation for the team. You take their money and get to claim any success they might have as yours. Nobody holds it against you if they fail and fade away. 

I wonder how many of these teams fund a good part of their budget this way? 

ML512 wrote:

Looks like their structure will be four riders for 2026 now. Two with salary, one without salary but all stuff covered, last one...unsure.

El_Rayo wrote:

Who’s the last one?

Maybe Jett Reynolds?

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ML512 wrote:

Looks like their structure will be four riders for 2026 now. Two with salary, one without salary but all stuff covered, last one...unsure.

Money wrote:

Simonson will be the rider riding for free. Lux turner the paying rider? Parker Ross n max getting paid?

ML512 wrote:

Parker Ross and Lux Turner have both signed with BarX Yamaha.

Schwartz there next year as well?

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8/16/2025 8:53pm

So paid are max and coty, the free rider is Devin and the other paying…….?

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How much does someone pay for a ride like ClubMx? 150k for the year with everything included, bikes, mechanic, travel, living quarters, training spot? What about paying to be on a team like AEO or BarX that doesn’t have everything ClubMx has to offer? If I hit the lottery I might buy myself onto a team 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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8/16/2025 10:03pm
Money wrote:

So paid are max and coty, the free rider is Devin and the other paying…….?

No offense to Simonson but there is no chance he deserves the free gig over other available riders. He had a couple good rides in supercross but hasn't had much success outdoors.

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8/16/2025 10:12pm

I would not be surprised if Devin was the 5th guy next year. Maybe Reynolds again and another rider to join Coty and Max. 

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8/16/2025 10:17pm
Money wrote:

So paid are max and coty, the free rider is Devin and the other paying…….?

No offense to Simonson but there is no chance he deserves the free gig over other available riders. He had a couple good rides in supercross...

No offense to Simonson but there is no chance he deserves the free gig over other available riders. He had a couple good rides in supercross but hasn't had much success outdoors.

Maybe he cuts brandon’s grass and that’s how he gets the ride 

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8/16/2025 10:27pm
Money wrote:

So paid are max and coty, the free rider is Devin and the other paying…….?

No offense to Simonson but there is no chance he deserves the free gig over other available riders. He had a couple good rides in supercross...

No offense to Simonson but there is no chance he deserves the free gig over other available riders. He had a couple good rides in supercross but hasn't had much success outdoors.

Money wrote:

Maybe he cuts brandon’s grass and that’s how he gets the ride 

He’s the contractor building all the houses there 😂😂😂

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Money wrote:

So paid are max and coty, the free rider is Devin and the other paying…….?

No offense to Simonson but there is no chance he deserves the free gig over other available riders. He had a couple good rides in supercross...

No offense to Simonson but there is no chance he deserves the free gig over other available riders. He had a couple good rides in supercross but hasn't had much success outdoors.

Loyalty to the program. They see him ride everyday, got to know him, etc. He’s been training at Club for a bit.

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ohh_454 wrote:
How much does someone pay for a ride like ClubMx? 150k for the year with everything included, bikes, mechanic, travel, living quarters, training spot? What about...

How much does someone pay for a ride like ClubMx? 150k for the year with everything included, bikes, mechanic, travel, living quarters, training spot? What about paying to be on a team like AEO or BarX that doesn’t have everything ClubMx has to offer? If I hit the lottery I might buy myself onto a team 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Jeez if you have $150k to pay for a ride you must come from a family with FU money 

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ohh_454 wrote:
How much does someone pay for a ride like ClubMx? 150k for the year with everything included, bikes, mechanic, travel, living quarters, training spot? What about...

How much does someone pay for a ride like ClubMx? 150k for the year with everything included, bikes, mechanic, travel, living quarters, training spot? What about paying to be on a team like AEO or BarX that doesn’t have everything ClubMx has to offer? If I hit the lottery I might buy myself onto a team 🤣🤣🤣🤣

yak651 wrote:

Jeez if you have $150k to pay for a ride you must come from a family with FU money 

I was just throwing a number out there, I’m not sure what people pay. 60k a year to be on a team like ClubMx and not worrying about anything seems light to me. If your family is willing to pay for you to be on a team, you might come from FU money lol 


Hey ML, what’s it costing someone to buy themselves onto a team like ClubMx or AEO? What would it have cost someone to buy their way onto your team?

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8/17/2025 8:39am
Money wrote:

So paid are max and coty, the free rider is Devin and the other paying…….?

No offense to Simonson but there is no chance he deserves the free gig over other available riders. He had a couple good rides in supercross...

No offense to Simonson but there is no chance he deserves the free gig over other available riders. He had a couple good rides in supercross but hasn't had much success outdoors.

ML512 wrote:

Loyalty to the program. They see him ride everyday, got to know him, etc. He’s been training at Club for a bit.

Also he is a good dude. I don’t know Brandon but he seems to really value good humans. 

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8/17/2025 11:15am
ohh_454 wrote:
How much does someone pay for a ride like ClubMx? 150k for the year with everything included, bikes, mechanic, travel, living quarters, training spot? What about...

How much does someone pay for a ride like ClubMx? 150k for the year with everything included, bikes, mechanic, travel, living quarters, training spot? What about paying to be on a team like AEO or BarX that doesn’t have everything ClubMx has to offer? If I hit the lottery I might buy myself onto a team 🤣🤣🤣🤣

yak651 wrote:

Jeez if you have $150k to pay for a ride you must come from a family with FU money 

ohh_454 wrote:
I was just throwing a number out there, I’m not sure what people pay. 60k a year to be on a team like ClubMx and not...

I was just throwing a number out there, I’m not sure what people pay. 60k a year to be on a team like ClubMx and not worrying about anything seems light to me. If your family is willing to pay for you to be on a team, you might come from FU money lol 


Hey ML, what’s it costing someone to buy themselves onto a team like ClubMx or AEO? What would it have cost someone to buy their way onto your team?

I dont think that number is high at all. $150K for a full year of sx/mx racing for a program like Club sounds about right to me. No chance its as low at $60K

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How many kids his age are going that far in debt for a college degree they'll never finish or use? If that's all in cost for bikes, gear, riding, training, housing, mechanic, etc etc that's really not that far fetched. YOLO.... if you can find a way and that's what you want to do, keep swiping that card and see what you can do. You've got the next 50 years of your life to be responsible and grind away at some job.... 

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h20 wrote:

Is this why he didn’t race today?  Can’t he just race on his own?  

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Probably doesn't have a bike. 

I hope he’s at Budds Creek!  

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ohh_454 wrote:
How much does someone pay for a ride like ClubMx? 150k for the year with everything included, bikes, mechanic, travel, living quarters, training spot? What about...

How much does someone pay for a ride like ClubMx? 150k for the year with everything included, bikes, mechanic, travel, living quarters, training spot? What about paying to be on a team like AEO or BarX that doesn’t have everything ClubMx has to offer? If I hit the lottery I might buy myself onto a team 🤣🤣🤣🤣

yak651 wrote:

Jeez if you have $150k to pay for a ride you must come from a family with FU money 

This sport is only for the rich and elite these days. It’s sad because Moto used to also be a poor man’s sport.  I haven’t seen a roadside shop with used dirt bikes in over 2 decades here in California.  the middle class can barely afford to ride.  Only people I know that race come from money 

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I see it like University. Not all but mid to top riders get scholarships. Mid to bottom riders got to pay their own way until proven otherwise. 

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8/22/2025 4:36pm

I heard Lux gets a $50,000 base salary in 26, I would imagine Ross is about the same

I wonder how much those EBR Amateur rides are? They have quite a set up at Loretta's every year.

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NITRODOG wrote:
I heard Lux gets a $50,000 base salary in 26, I would imagine Ross is about the sameI wonder how much those EBR Amateur rides are...

I heard Lux gets a $50,000 base salary in 26, I would imagine Ross is about the same

I wonder how much those EBR Amateur rides are? They have quite a set up at Loretta's every year.

Incorrect, that's higher than what either of them received.

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ML512 wrote:

Incorrect, that's higher than what either of them received.

Assuming those guys are around 35k. Do they receive contingency plus purse money as well ? 

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ML512 wrote:

Incorrect, that's higher than what either of them received.

mb60 wrote:

Assuming those guys are around 35k. Do they receive contingency plus purse money as well ? 

You're much closer. Yes, they receive bonuses in the form of contingency multipliers. Some teams have them...like Phoenix, AEO, and BarX... (I had those for my team as well). So it's attractive to riders because they get a weekly paycheck other than purse when they get 12th...10th...17th...8th... etc. One rider mentioned to me that's why the Club offer wasn't as attractive as it only had bonuses for the top five positions.

However, I think Club positions itself in a different way with the facility and maybe a bit deeper off-the-bike program wrapped in. So there are trade-offs to each deal.

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NITRODOG wrote:
I heard Lux gets a $50,000 base salary in 26, I would imagine Ross is about the sameI wonder how much those EBR Amateur rides are...

I heard Lux gets a $50,000 base salary in 26, I would imagine Ross is about the same

I wonder how much those EBR Amateur rides are? They have quite a set up at Loretta's every year.

ML512 wrote:

Incorrect, that's higher than what either of them received.

Dang, that boy must exaggerate things...😊

8/22/2025 5:49pm
ohh_454 wrote:
How much does someone pay for a ride like ClubMx? 150k for the year with everything included, bikes, mechanic, travel, living quarters, training spot? What about...

How much does someone pay for a ride like ClubMx? 150k for the year with everything included, bikes, mechanic, travel, living quarters, training spot? What about paying to be on a team like AEO or BarX that doesn’t have everything ClubMx has to offer? If I hit the lottery I might buy myself onto a team 🤣🤣🤣🤣

yak651 wrote:

Jeez if you have $150k to pay for a ride you must come from a family with FU money 

h20 wrote:
This sport is only for the rich and elite these days. It’s sad because Moto used to also be a poor man’s sport.  I haven’t seen...

This sport is only for the rich and elite these days. It’s sad because Moto used to also be a poor man’s sport.  I haven’t seen a roadside shop with used dirt bikes in over 2 decades here in California.  the middle class can barely afford to ride.  Only people I know that race come from money 

I remember when I started racing as a teen in '92, the vets of NESC told me stories about when Doug Henry came through the ranks. His bikes were completely roached out and held together with duct tape. His work ethic, talent, and desire were enough to get him a factory ride and become a National Champion. A kid with all the tools and talent like Doug, but lacking rich parents, probably wouldn't make it today

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Why isn’t he racing Supercross? 

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3/16/2026 3:53pm
Money wrote:

So paid are max and coty, the free rider is Devin and the other paying…….?

No offense to Simonson but there is no chance he deserves the free gig over other available riders. He had a couple good rides in supercross...

No offense to Simonson but there is no chance he deserves the free gig over other available riders. He had a couple good rides in supercross but hasn't had much success outdoors.

This didn't age nicely

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h20 wrote:

Why isn’t he racing Supercross? 

Injured

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3/17/2026 2:04am

If SMX next is the feeder class that it’s claimed to be, you’d hope that the kid who won the series last year would’ve at the very least had an opportunity at a pro ride with club.  Ideally kids winning that series would have factory rides, as plenty of the people Fedorstov beat do.  

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