MXGP Rumours/Silly season

rym wrote:

Jumbo owner convicted today to two years and Theo E for longer. Didnt read anything about Hutten though. 

MXMattii wrote:

Wim Hutten was part of this case, they asked for 80h community service as sentence, in the end he got 60 hours. For Frits van...

Wim Hutten was part of this case, they asked for 80h community service as sentence, in the end he got 60 hours. For Frits van Eerd his conviction is out of proportion. The judge convict Van Eerd for "laundering money through criminal activities", instead of sport sponsorships. This due to the involvement of Theo Eggens. Here you've a interesting article (in dutch but a translate app can do his work), it is a old article but makes clear how Theo Eggens became "the mafia auto-dealer", his nickname in dutch-press. How Theo met Frits van Eerd due to a mutual friend.

This is a translation from a dutch news article:

On Thursday, former Jumbo CEO Frits van Eerd was sentenced to two years in prison by the court in Groningen. This sentence will be remembered as one of the heaviest ever given to a well-known figure in Dutch business—and it was even harsher than what the prosecution had asked for.

The charges the judge found proven were serious: money laundering, bribery, and forgery. The court ruled that Van Eerd, along with Drenthe car dealer Theo Eggens—who was also sentenced to prison—were involved in “circles of drug-related crime.” Large amounts of money were laundered.

Van Eerd had enjoyed a long-standing relationship with Eggens. In return for various gifts like expensive toolboxes, motocross bikes, and a trailer, Van Eerd arranged for Jumbo to sponsor several motorsport teams from Drenthe. However, a large part of the sponsorship money didn’t actually go to the sport—it was used for criminal activities. The verdict states that “Van Eerd must have known these invoices were falsified.”

Despite this, Van Eerd continued to keep contact with Eggens “knowingly and intentionally,” but the court said he was unable to clearly explain why.

It’s notable that Van Eerd’s sentence is harsher than what the prosecution requested. The Public Prosecution Service had asked for a two-year sentence, with eight months suspended. The combination of crimes increased the severity of the sentence, the judge said. “Besides money laundering, there was also forgery, which makes the sentence heavier. It is clear the money laundering took place within serious criminal activity.”

Van Eerd’s unclear and evasive answers during the trial—especially about the origin of the money—worked against him. The court saw “no reason” to give him a partly suspended sentence. “The court never gained insight into his motives.”

Eggens received an even harsher sentence: three and a half years in prison and a nine-year ban on working in his profession. Originally, prosecutors had asked for four years.

Because of the case, Van Eerd had to step down as Jumbo’s CEO. The company had already ruled out his return, regardless of the verdict. The negative publicity caused Jumbo to lose some market share, just as it was trying to challenge market leader Ahold Delhaize.

It’s rare in the Netherlands for such a high-profile businessperson to be sentenced to prison. For example, former Ahold CEO Cees van der Hoeven was fined 30,000 euros in 2009 for his role in an accounting scandal, but did not receive jail time. His assistant, Michiel Meurs, received six months of conditional imprisonment.

Van Eerd’s lawyer, Robbert Jonk, told the ANP news agency that it is “very likely” Van Eerd will appeal. According to his lawyer, Van Eerd is disappointed by the sentence. “Of course, you expect the court to disagree with you on some points, but we really didn’t expect it to go this far.”

rym wrote:

Jumbo owner convicted today to two years and Theo E for longer. Didnt read anything about Hutten though. 

MXMattii wrote:

Wim Hutten was part of this case, they asked for 80h community service as sentence, in the end he got 60 hours. For Frits van...

Wim Hutten was part of this case, they asked for 80h community service as sentence, in the end he got 60 hours. For Frits van Eerd his conviction is out of proportion. The judge convict Van Eerd for "laundering money through criminal activities", instead of sport sponsorships. This due to the involvement of Theo Eggens. Here you've a interesting article (in dutch but a translate app can do his work), it is a old article but makes clear how Theo Eggens became "the mafia auto-dealer", his nickname in dutch-press. How Theo met Frits van Eerd due to a mutual friend.

This is a translation from a dutch news article:

On Thursday, former Jumbo CEO Frits van Eerd was sentenced to two years in prison by the court in Groningen. This sentence will be remembered as one of the heaviest ever given to a well-known figure in Dutch business—and it was even harsher than what the prosecution had asked for.

The charges the judge found proven were serious: money laundering, bribery, and forgery. The court ruled that Van Eerd, along with Drenthe car dealer Theo Eggens—who was also sentenced to prison—were involved in “circles of drug-related crime.” Large amounts of money were laundered.

Van Eerd had enjoyed a long-standing relationship with Eggens. In return for various gifts like expensive toolboxes, motocross bikes, and a trailer, Van Eerd arranged for Jumbo to sponsor several motorsport teams from Drenthe. However, a large part of the sponsorship money didn’t actually go to the sport—it was used for criminal activities. The verdict states that “Van Eerd must have known these invoices were falsified.”

Despite this, Van Eerd continued to keep contact with Eggens “knowingly and intentionally,” but the court said he was unable to clearly explain why.

It’s notable that Van Eerd’s sentence is harsher than what the prosecution requested. The Public Prosecution Service had asked for a two-year sentence, with eight months suspended. The combination of crimes increased the severity of the sentence, the judge said. “Besides money laundering, there was also forgery, which makes the sentence heavier. It is clear the money laundering took place within serious criminal activity.”

Van Eerd’s unclear and evasive answers during the trial—especially about the origin of the money—worked against him. The court saw “no reason” to give him a partly suspended sentence. “The court never gained insight into his motives.”

Eggens received an even harsher sentence: three and a half years in prison and a nine-year ban on working in his profession. Originally, prosecutors had asked for four years.

Because of the case, Van Eerd had to step down as Jumbo’s CEO. The company had already ruled out his return, regardless of the verdict. The negative publicity caused Jumbo to lose some market share, just as it was trying to challenge market leader Ahold Delhaize.

It’s rare in the Netherlands for such a high-profile businessperson to be sentenced to prison. For example, former Ahold CEO Cees van der Hoeven was fined 30,000 euros in 2009 for his role in an accounting scandal, but did not receive jail time. His assistant, Michiel Meurs, received six months of conditional imprisonment.

Van Eerd’s lawyer, Robbert Jonk, told the ANP news agency that it is “very likely” Van Eerd will appeal. According to his lawyer, Van Eerd is disappointed by the sentence. “Of course, you expect the court to disagree with you on some points, but we really didn’t expect it to go this far.”

rym wrote:

Thanks. Anything about the other teams involved? BT and Riley? 

Rocketship wrote:

The proof came mainly from the van Eerd - Eggens - Hutten construction and the court left BT, Jacky Martens and Nestaan for what it is.Of...

The proof came mainly from the van Eerd - Eggens - Hutten construction and the court left BT, Jacky Martens and Nestaan for what it is.

Of course there has been some things brought up in the book Frits and media about BT and Riley, but in the end the court is only intrested in what can be proven.

The Riley owner did got convicted in a separate case and has to go to jail for a year for the attempted extortion of van Eerd. No idea if he actually apealed..

 

Rocketship wrote:

The proof came mainly from the van Eerd - Eggens - Hutten construction and the court left BT, Jacky Martens and Nestaan for what it is.Of...

The proof came mainly from the van Eerd - Eggens - Hutten construction and the court left BT, Jacky Martens and Nestaan for what it is.

Of course there has been some things brought up in the book Frits and media about BT and Riley, but in the end the court is only intrested in what can be proven.

The Riley owner did got convicted in a separate case and has to go to jail for a year for the attempted extortion of van Eerd. No idea if he actually apealed..

 

Cortami79 wrote:

Quite weird to see that van Eerd gets a higher sentence then the Riley guy, while he threatened van Eerd via text messages and blackmailed him...

Quite weird to see that van Eerd gets a higher sentence then the Riley guy, while he threatened van Eerd via text messages and blackmailed him. Dutch court system is a bit broken in that sense. 

The Dutch media isn’t helping either, as they make a huge live blog about the court case due to his known presence with Jumbo and support to a lot of Dutch athletes. This billionaire helped out a lot of people and athletes the past 15 years, but receives the typical Dutch treatment.. not saying that he is completely innocent ofcourse, but a jail sentence of two years? Come on

 I didn’t know that Nestaan and Martens were investigated as well. I did read the book and they briefly described a bit about BT. 

ksithumper wrote:

Serious drug-related money laundering only gets you 4 years? Right there, is the problem.

MXMattii wrote:

Wim Hutten was part of this case, they asked for 80h community service as sentence, in the end he got 60 hours. For Frits van...

Wim Hutten was part of this case, they asked for 80h community service as sentence, in the end he got 60 hours. For Frits van Eerd his conviction is out of proportion. The judge convict Van Eerd for "laundering money through criminal activities", instead of sport sponsorships. This due to the involvement of Theo Eggens. Here you've a interesting article (in dutch but a translate app can do his work), it is a old article but makes clear how Theo Eggens became "the mafia auto-dealer", his nickname in dutch-press. How Theo met Frits van Eerd due to a mutual friend.

This is a translation from a dutch news article:

On Thursday, former Jumbo CEO Frits van Eerd was sentenced to two years in prison by the court in Groningen. This sentence will be remembered as one of the heaviest ever given to a well-known figure in Dutch business—and it was even harsher than what the prosecution had asked for.

The charges the judge found proven were serious: money laundering, bribery, and forgery. The court ruled that Van Eerd, along with Drenthe car dealer Theo Eggens—who was also sentenced to prison—were involved in “circles of drug-related crime.” Large amounts of money were laundered.

Van Eerd had enjoyed a long-standing relationship with Eggens. In return for various gifts like expensive toolboxes, motocross bikes, and a trailer, Van Eerd arranged for Jumbo to sponsor several motorsport teams from Drenthe. However, a large part of the sponsorship money didn’t actually go to the sport—it was used for criminal activities. The verdict states that “Van Eerd must have known these invoices were falsified.”

Despite this, Van Eerd continued to keep contact with Eggens “knowingly and intentionally,” but the court said he was unable to clearly explain why.

It’s notable that Van Eerd’s sentence is harsher than what the prosecution requested. The Public Prosecution Service had asked for a two-year sentence, with eight months suspended. The combination of crimes increased the severity of the sentence, the judge said. “Besides money laundering, there was also forgery, which makes the sentence heavier. It is clear the money laundering took place within serious criminal activity.”

Van Eerd’s unclear and evasive answers during the trial—especially about the origin of the money—worked against him. The court saw “no reason” to give him a partly suspended sentence. “The court never gained insight into his motives.”

Eggens received an even harsher sentence: three and a half years in prison and a nine-year ban on working in his profession. Originally, prosecutors had asked for four years.

Because of the case, Van Eerd had to step down as Jumbo’s CEO. The company had already ruled out his return, regardless of the verdict. The negative publicity caused Jumbo to lose some market share, just as it was trying to challenge market leader Ahold Delhaize.

It’s rare in the Netherlands for such a high-profile businessperson to be sentenced to prison. For example, former Ahold CEO Cees van der Hoeven was fined 30,000 euros in 2009 for his role in an accounting scandal, but did not receive jail time. His assistant, Michiel Meurs, received six months of conditional imprisonment.

Van Eerd’s lawyer, Robbert Jonk, told the ANP news agency that it is “very likely” Van Eerd will appeal. According to his lawyer, Van Eerd is disappointed by the sentence. “Of course, you expect the court to disagree with you on some points, but we really didn’t expect it to go this far.”

MXMattii wrote:

Wim Hutten was part of this case, they asked for 80h community service as sentence, in the end he got 60 hours. For Frits van...

Wim Hutten was part of this case, they asked for 80h community service as sentence, in the end he got 60 hours. For Frits van Eerd his conviction is out of proportion. The judge convict Van Eerd for "laundering money through criminal activities", instead of sport sponsorships. This due to the involvement of Theo Eggens. Here you've a interesting article (in dutch but a translate app can do his work), it is a old article but makes clear how Theo Eggens became "the mafia auto-dealer", his nickname in dutch-press. How Theo met Frits van Eerd due to a mutual friend.

This is a translation from a dutch news article:

On Thursday, former Jumbo CEO Frits van Eerd was sentenced to two years in prison by the court in Groningen. This sentence will be remembered as one of the heaviest ever given to a well-known figure in Dutch business—and it was even harsher than what the prosecution had asked for.

The charges the judge found proven were serious: money laundering, bribery, and forgery. The court ruled that Van Eerd, along with Drenthe car dealer Theo Eggens—who was also sentenced to prison—were involved in “circles of drug-related crime.” Large amounts of money were laundered.

Van Eerd had enjoyed a long-standing relationship with Eggens. In return for various gifts like expensive toolboxes, motocross bikes, and a trailer, Van Eerd arranged for Jumbo to sponsor several motorsport teams from Drenthe. However, a large part of the sponsorship money didn’t actually go to the sport—it was used for criminal activities. The verdict states that “Van Eerd must have known these invoices were falsified.”

Despite this, Van Eerd continued to keep contact with Eggens “knowingly and intentionally,” but the court said he was unable to clearly explain why.

It’s notable that Van Eerd’s sentence is harsher than what the prosecution requested. The Public Prosecution Service had asked for a two-year sentence, with eight months suspended. The combination of crimes increased the severity of the sentence, the judge said. “Besides money laundering, there was also forgery, which makes the sentence heavier. It is clear the money laundering took place within serious criminal activity.”

Van Eerd’s unclear and evasive answers during the trial—especially about the origin of the money—worked against him. The court saw “no reason” to give him a partly suspended sentence. “The court never gained insight into his motives.”

Eggens received an even harsher sentence: three and a half years in prison and a nine-year ban on working in his profession. Originally, prosecutors had asked for four years.

Because of the case, Van Eerd had to step down as Jumbo’s CEO. The company had already ruled out his return, regardless of the verdict. The negative publicity caused Jumbo to lose some market share, just as it was trying to challenge market leader Ahold Delhaize.

It’s rare in the Netherlands for such a high-profile businessperson to be sentenced to prison. For example, former Ahold CEO Cees van der Hoeven was fined 30,000 euros in 2009 for his role in an accounting scandal, but did not receive jail time. His assistant, Michiel Meurs, received six months of conditional imprisonment.

Van Eerd’s lawyer, Robbert Jonk, told the ANP news agency that it is “very likely” Van Eerd will appeal. According to his lawyer, Van Eerd is disappointed by the sentence. “Of course, you expect the court to disagree with you on some points, but we really didn’t expect it to go this far.”

Robgvx wrote:

Is Theo any relation to Erik?

MXMattii wrote:

Wim Hutten was part of this case, they asked for 80h community service as sentence, in the end he got 60 hours. For Frits van...

Wim Hutten was part of this case, they asked for 80h community service as sentence, in the end he got 60 hours. For Frits van Eerd his conviction is out of proportion. The judge convict Van Eerd for "laundering money through criminal activities", instead of sport sponsorships. This due to the involvement of Theo Eggens. Here you've a interesting article (in dutch but a translate app can do his work), it is a old article but makes clear how Theo Eggens became "the mafia auto-dealer", his nickname in dutch-press. How Theo met Frits van Eerd due to a mutual friend.

This is a translation from a dutch news article:

On Thursday, former Jumbo CEO Frits van Eerd was sentenced to two years in prison by the court in Groningen. This sentence will be remembered as one of the heaviest ever given to a well-known figure in Dutch business—and it was even harsher than what the prosecution had asked for.

The charges the judge found proven were serious: money laundering, bribery, and forgery. The court ruled that Van Eerd, along with Drenthe car dealer Theo Eggens—who was also sentenced to prison—were involved in “circles of drug-related crime.” Large amounts of money were laundered.

Van Eerd had enjoyed a long-standing relationship with Eggens. In return for various gifts like expensive toolboxes, motocross bikes, and a trailer, Van Eerd arranged for Jumbo to sponsor several motorsport teams from Drenthe. However, a large part of the sponsorship money didn’t actually go to the sport—it was used for criminal activities. The verdict states that “Van Eerd must have known these invoices were falsified.”

Despite this, Van Eerd continued to keep contact with Eggens “knowingly and intentionally,” but the court said he was unable to clearly explain why.

It’s notable that Van Eerd’s sentence is harsher than what the prosecution requested. The Public Prosecution Service had asked for a two-year sentence, with eight months suspended. The combination of crimes increased the severity of the sentence, the judge said. “Besides money laundering, there was also forgery, which makes the sentence heavier. It is clear the money laundering took place within serious criminal activity.”

Van Eerd’s unclear and evasive answers during the trial—especially about the origin of the money—worked against him. The court saw “no reason” to give him a partly suspended sentence. “The court never gained insight into his motives.”

Eggens received an even harsher sentence: three and a half years in prison and a nine-year ban on working in his profession. Originally, prosecutors had asked for four years.

Because of the case, Van Eerd had to step down as Jumbo’s CEO. The company had already ruled out his return, regardless of the verdict. The negative publicity caused Jumbo to lose some market share, just as it was trying to challenge market leader Ahold Delhaize.

It’s rare in the Netherlands for such a high-profile businessperson to be sentenced to prison. For example, former Ahold CEO Cees van der Hoeven was fined 30,000 euros in 2009 for his role in an accounting scandal, but did not receive jail time. His assistant, Michiel Meurs, received six months of conditional imprisonment.

Van Eerd’s lawyer, Robbert Jonk, told the ANP news agency that it is “very likely” Van Eerd will appeal. According to his lawyer, Van Eerd is disappointed by the sentence. “Of course, you expect the court to disagree with you on some points, but we really didn’t expect it to go this far.”

Robgvx wrote:

Is Theo any relation to Erik?

Rocketship wrote:

It’s his brother…

colonel wrote:

Maxime to Ducati 

Front242 wrote:

Herlings and Viale to HRC was a side note at the Austrian MotoGP weekend.... Herlings already signed.!?

 

Front242 wrote:

Herlings and Viale to HRC was a side note at the Austrian MotoGP weekend.... Herlings already signed.!?

 

Cortami79 wrote:

Seems like it is also the reason Herlings cannot ride the MXON

Front242 wrote:

Herlings and Viale to HRC was a side note at the Austrian MotoGP weekend.... Herlings already signed.!?

 

Cortami79 wrote:

Seems like it is also the reason Herlings cannot ride the MXON

MXMattii wrote:

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago...

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago Geerts.

MXMattii wrote:

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago...

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago Geerts.

Front242 wrote:

Herlings and Viale to HRC was a side note at the Austrian MotoGP weekend.... Herlings already signed.!?

 

Cortami79 wrote:

Seems like it is also the reason Herlings cannot ride the MXON

MXMattii wrote:

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago...

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago Geerts.

MXMattii wrote:

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago...

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago Geerts.

Cortami79 wrote:

Seems like it is also the reason Herlings cannot ride the MXON

MXMattii wrote:

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago...

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago Geerts.

gardon372 wrote:

Any news on where Geerts ends up? 

MXMattii wrote:

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago...

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago Geerts.

Books wrote:

Same for Vlaanderen and Renaux…

MXMattii wrote:

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago...

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago Geerts.

gardon372 wrote:

Any news on where Geerts ends up? 

mxxxeR1 wrote:

ama 250 nationals   ... if he is smart....he is a lot better than haarup.....and he does it quite well there

MXMattii wrote:

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago...

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago Geerts.

gardon372 wrote:

Any news on where Geerts ends up? 

mxxxeR1 wrote:

ama 250 nationals   ... if he is smart....he is a lot better than haarup.....and he does it quite well there

MXMattii wrote:

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago...

Indeed, there are a lot of racers who are without bike or lose the support because they change bikes, and that means NO MXON. Example: Jago Geerts.

Books wrote:

Same for Vlaanderen and Renaux…

Cortami79 wrote:

Vlaanderen is selected for team NL. So that either means he stays at Yamaha or the Geerts story isn’t true. With renaux leaving Yamaha that should...

Vlaanderen is selected for team NL. So that either means he stays at Yamaha or the Geerts story isn’t true. With renaux leaving Yamaha that should give one or two spots to other riders in there. Gifting comes to mind.. or Coldenhoff

Ray_MXS wrote:

I know I'm a Gifting fan but his trajectory is just straight up. Renaux is leaving. Surely Gifting is a better sign than Geerts at this...

I know I'm a Gifting fan but his trajectory is just straight up. Renaux is leaving. Surely Gifting is a better sign than Geerts at this point.

Books wrote:

Same for Vlaanderen and Renaux…

Cortami79 wrote:

Vlaanderen is selected for team NL. So that either means he stays at Yamaha or the Geerts story isn’t true. With renaux leaving Yamaha that should...

Vlaanderen is selected for team NL. So that either means he stays at Yamaha or the Geerts story isn’t true. With renaux leaving Yamaha that should give one or two spots to other riders in there. Gifting comes to mind.. or Coldenhoff

rym wrote:

Gifting isnt an upgrade for yamaha. I'd keep Vlaanderen in that case. Coldenhoff next to gajser would be a super lineup but not sure they can...

Gifting isnt an upgrade for yamaha. I'd keep Vlaanderen in that case. Coldenhoff next to gajser would be a super lineup but not sure they can afford that

Cortami79 wrote:

Vlaanderen is selected for team NL. So that either means he stays at Yamaha or the Geerts story isn’t true. With renaux leaving Yamaha that should...

Vlaanderen is selected for team NL. So that either means he stays at Yamaha or the Geerts story isn’t true. With renaux leaving Yamaha that should give one or two spots to other riders in there. Gifting comes to mind.. or Coldenhoff

rym wrote:

Gifting isnt an upgrade for yamaha. I'd keep Vlaanderen in that case. Coldenhoff next to gajser would be a super lineup but not sure they can...

Gifting isnt an upgrade for yamaha. I'd keep Vlaanderen in that case. Coldenhoff next to gajser would be a super lineup but not sure they can afford that

Rocketship wrote:

Major respect for the JK effort as they do what they can but I want to know what Gifting could do on a better bike, better...

Major respect for the JK effort as they do what they can but I want to know what Gifting could do on a better bike, better team under superior conditions. What he has been consistently showing is very impressive. I don't want to doubt Calvin Vlaanderen as I believe he is a prime example of hard work pays off, but Gifting has that raw talent Calvin maybe is missing to be able to be a consistent top 3 / top 5 runner when all top dogs are healthy. 

 

gardon372 wrote:

Any news on where Geerts ends up? 

mxxxeR1 wrote:

ama 250 nationals   ... if he is smart....he is a lot better than haarup.....and he does it quite well there

Motofinne wrote:

I don't think he is better than Haarup 2025. The injury last year has completely killed him. 

mxxxeR1 wrote:

ama 250 nationals   ... if he is smart....he is a lot better than haarup.....and he does it quite well there

Motofinne wrote:

I don't think he is better than Haarup 2025. The injury last year has completely killed him. 

kevinconnor wrote:

Not sure i agree with that. He may just be a 250 specialist. 

Motofinne wrote:

I don't think he is better than Haarup 2025. The injury last year has completely killed him. 

kevinconnor wrote:

Not sure i agree with that. He may just be a 250 specialist. 

Ray_MXS wrote:

You must have missed MXoN at Red Bud a few years ago

kevinconnor wrote:

I was there. It was 4 years ago and a single event. He's one of my favorite riders but he simply needs to perform better.