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I hit the gate at Lake Whitney pretty hard once and it sure didn’t flop over forward.
I had to back up and let ot fall.
My thought is the gate failed, and he got penalized because of it.
If you know you are going to get lapped anyway... As soon as that 30 second board goes sideways... jump that gate. You will have at least a 4 second lead, pull the holeshot, and still have time to give a thumbs up to the tv camera and your girlfriend in the first turn. Might even lead a lap of a National.... just saying. 🤣
Only the AMA could come up with a penalty this stupid! A few positions, sure but one lap? Clown show 101. He needs to pull a Carmichael and tell them if they don’t take the penalty away, He’s not going to show up next week. 😂😂
Lol, 3 people dont like the rules?
Might be time we address the multiple course cutting violations Deeges does every moto.
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How about you ask JT to check the gates at Unadilla next week to see if they can flop forward. And explain why they can flop forward.
Jett missed judged the drop, didnt deliberately jump the gate. Thats insane bs. He's been racing all his life, done more starts than most people have hot dinners.
Please show us the video of the advantage he gained he had to be docked 1 lap for.
(I get the rule and the penalty dished out. Its history)
Yep, I remember some gates had chains on them so they couldnt go forward if hit.
Now, is Coombs having the gates like this to not have down time on tv fixing it?
It happens all the time, I'm at races every weekend and someone always gets "Stuck in the gate" so don't give me that crap.
Self penalizing gate you peanut.
I did not see anywhere in the rule anything about gaining an advantage. It strictly said gate violation. Harsh yes but being DQ'd could have been a possibility.
he did jump the gate (poorly), but didn't NET an advantage. unfortunately, looks like they treat it as strict liability regardless of intent or outcome. them's the rules, at least it cuts down on subjective application as much as possible, so people don't complain about inconsistent officiating.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNJfRIeR_ih/ - replay of the pelletier broadcast explanation.
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Jett should threaten to go to NASCAR.
Penalty reversed.
In only his third year!
What does Deegan have to do with this?
so I got caught up on the races & my personal opinion, yea the rule is the rule but how can u say he really gained any advantage when he got the worst start of the season from the whole ideal , seems to me like this was just some freakish weird faulty shit 🤷🏾♂️ , from all the pro nationals & SX races I’ve attended & even some of budds local races from time to time , I’ve seen plenty of ppl missed time the gate but they just get held up there , they gotta back tht bike up so the gate can drop , but ayyy it is wht it is , I kno Jett prolly still pissed but he’ll be fine 😂 just gone head & brush ur shoulders off yung blood & move onto dilla
It’s not much to discuss after that. I just hope that they continue to use that rule in the same way each time something similar happens in the future.
This just became really messy just because of the gate that flipped.
Who are these fatties?
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I get the rule.. but if he stopped for a split second more and let everyone go ahead a bit more does he get the penalty?
I was laughing to myself that if he wraps up the title before the last moto he should just blow through the gate and lap up as far as he can to see what position he can get to haha
Good thing they don't penalize this in amateur racing . My son hits the gate every damn time ,or he stalls it . 😂
I feel like over half of the people commenting don't fully grasp why he received a penalty. It's not just because he hit the gate. He was in front of the gate when it actually dropped.
Luckily he's good enough it doesn't matter for the mx championship, he's still probably going to clinch next weekend. But if he loses SMX by a point? Oof.
I get why they gave the penalty. It’s just that I don’t think the gate should have went forward. I know I have never seen that before.
If the gate hadn’t gone forward, he wouldn’t have been in front of it. No penalty, and he still would have gotten 3rd.
No amount of advantage gained by cheating a gate warrants a 1 lap penalty. Period. The AMA needs to rectify that to properly fit the infringement.
In South Africa the gates have always been able to rotate 180 degrees...meaning dropping flat both ways.
All the times I've been on the gate In Pro racing as a mechanic (USA) the gates have always been able to rotate 180.
If a mechanism or shearing pin to prevent the gate from pushing past 90 degrees gets jammed from a front wheel hit then a bunch of gates will hang (they won't drop) I've seen this happen before.
The gates have to rotate 180, If not, then we'd see a lot more of bugged gates and restarts.
Good to know. I had never noticed one going forward. I wonder if they were always that way, or has it changed ?
It looks to me like it would be a liability, though, more chance for injury or damage to the bike going over the top. But I’m probably way overthinking it.
Exactly. People need to start thinking.
Most likely this was implemented because people where deliberately trying to jump the gate. If gates are low enough, you can jump them in a more smooth way.
Penalty needs to be significant.
If you don't gain an advantage compared to getting stuck in the gate i think you could let it go of rules allowed it. But you need to be last of the gate for that to apply.
Jett should have let the field go, only way he don't gain an advantage. Impossible for race director to let it go when he clearly gained an advantage compared to getting stuck in the gate.
I do recall that our gates in SA changed to be able to rotate 180 degrees in the mid 1980's.
Back then It was pretty normal to see a grinder/cutter and a welding machine on the gate to repair shit when it got bent up. The shearing pins or lockout point to stop a gate flipping forward past 90 degrees caused a lot of gate jamming when a dude hit the gate. Often a whole bunch of gates would then stay up.
It's great that they flip 180 now but the damn one lap penalty is way to harsh.
MX needs a long lap penalty for track infringements etc....F1 has a drive through, MotoGP has a long lap.
MX can have a small section like a little turn track that the dudes have to go through as a penalty...think joker lane...
He didn’t jump the gate did he? Looked like he just rammed it. At any rate the penalty IMO was harsh . He got a horrible start. Unless he broke the gate ,there shouldn’t have been a penalty at all.
Ya'll keep getting hung up on the "gained an advantage" thing. It has literally less than zero to do with anything other than fouling the gate like it's spelled out in the rule book. When one rider leaves early and does what Jett did, it "fouls the gate" for every other rider around him or her, that's the penalty, not some perceived advantage he may or may not have gained.
Like it or not that's the rule.
Edited for grammar.
I think the penalty occurred after he bumped gate. It’s interesting, If he had started 40th, I bet he would have finished higher than his penalized position.
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