Prado after the 2 week break

Edited Date/Time 8/6/2025 5:49am

Will we see a rested and reinvigorated Jorge Prado?  I’m sure the team has been throwing the kitchen sink at the bike for the past 2+ weeks in an effort to improve his comfort.  Do you expect him to come back at Ironman with a renewed will to win or will it be more of the same?  Top 3 start followed by laying down and letting all the other factory riders freight train him in the first few laps.  What do you expect?

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Spoonguy
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8/6/2025 5:49am

New home, new team, new bike, new tracks, injured shoulder, all the while behaving as a petulant child in interviews is a bad combination. Nobody is going to say, " I get it Jorge, I see now, it is everybody elses fault! "

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Spoonguy wrote:
New home, new team, new bike, new tracks, injured shoulder, all the while behaving as a petulant child in interviews is a bad combination. Nobody is...

New home, new team, new bike, new tracks, injured shoulder, all the while behaving as a petulant child in interviews is a bad combination. Nobody is going to say, " I get it Jorge, I see now, it is everybody elses fault! "

You make excuses for him them call out his bad attitude? There's another rider constantly finishing in front of him who has even less time on his current bike/team and has spent less time int he US. There's another rider in the 250s getting good results weeks after landing over here.

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8/6/2025 6:52am

the pressure in his head has to be pretty wild. He knows Vital is sitting around just waiting for him to drop anchor again...and he knows he'll be thrown under the bus yet again if it happens. Not sure what the 2 week break does for him and the team, but for his sake, I hope he improves.

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I don't expect him to be finishing with the Hunter Brothers, Chase, and Eli, but I sure hope they've made progress and he can get in and challenge them, finishing closer to where he belongs. 

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8/6/2025 7:11am

He can't get in shape in 2 weeks.

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No improvement. He’s not going to bridge the gap in two weeks. 

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It’s seems like he gets more pressure from press and fans than anyone on the track.

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He's toast. He needs to go back to MXGP

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the pressure in his head has to be pretty wild. He knows Vital is sitting around just waiting for him to drop anchor again...and he knows...

the pressure in his head has to be pretty wild. He knows Vital is sitting around just waiting for him to drop anchor again...and he knows he'll be thrown under the bus yet again if it happens. Not sure what the 2 week break does for him and the team, but for his sake, I hope he improves.

I’m sure he’s really concerned with us idiots on here talking shit about him 😂

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8/6/2025 7:51am

He's toast. He needs to go back to MXGP

to get lapped there? The way he's riding right now he wouldn't even win some of the national championship races in Europe.
He barely beat Toendel. He just went 7th o/a at the German championship 2 weeks ago. vdMoosdijk won that event. Last GP he was 2min down in both motos. 
Maybe that puts his current performance into perspective. Same with Guillod. He beat Prado in 2 of the last 3 races. He can't even believe it lol

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420Racing wrote:

He can't get in shape in 2 weeks.

You're downvoted, but I've been saying this since the beginning. He's not in shape for these motos and it's evident by his late moto tanking. 

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8/6/2025 7:57am

I'm saying more of the same based solely on the fact he was testing for supercross during this break. Seems like they've given up for the year or he's so frustrated he needed a change of scenery. From what he's posted, he's been in CA testing but riding a groomed Pala isn't going to do much to help him at the remaining east rounds. 

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8/6/2025 8:01am

He should beat RJ, I don’t think he will.

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I have a hard time understanding this "bike isn't good enough" thing, but then again, I've never raced at a high level. I've always thought that you don't need a bike that does anything too special - you just need a bike that doesn't do anything unpredictable or weird. If the suspension and handling is basically balanced, neutral, and predictable, a fast guy should be able to go fast. As far as power, it may not be as fast as the bike he had in MXGP but surely its as fast as the privateer KX450s that sometimes finish ahead of him. 

Hope he figures it out. The series would be more exciting with Prado battling for podiums. 

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Spoonguy wrote:
New home, new team, new bike, new tracks, injured shoulder, all the while behaving as a petulant child in interviews is a bad combination. Nobody is...

New home, new team, new bike, new tracks, injured shoulder, all the while behaving as a petulant child in interviews is a bad combination. Nobody is going to say, " I get it Jorge, I see now, it is everybody elses fault! "

100%. Until he takes some personal accountability, privately or publicly, nothing will change.

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Spoonguy wrote:
New home, new team, new bike, new tracks, injured shoulder, all the while behaving as a petulant child in interviews is a bad combination. Nobody is...

New home, new team, new bike, new tracks, injured shoulder, all the while behaving as a petulant child in interviews is a bad combination. Nobody is going to say, " I get it Jorge, I see now, it is everybody elses fault! "

JazzyJJ wrote:
You make excuses for him them call out his bad attitude? There's another rider constantly finishing in front of him who has even less time on...

You make excuses for him them call out his bad attitude? There's another rider constantly finishing in front of him who has even less time on his current bike/team and has spent less time int he US. There's another rider in the 250s getting good results weeks after landing over here.

Sometimes I wonder if people really miss my point or are just looking to argue? Nothing I stated is an excuse, those items are actually true, do you disagree? My point is he himself signed up for a tough row to hoe in even perfect conditions yet is blaming everyone and everything else for his current form. The man has a shitty attitude, perhaps he is the cliched spoiled athlete. The whole "I would be winning if the team/bike/mechanics were OK", is bullshit.

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MPJC wrote:
I have a hard time understanding this "bike isn't good enough" thing, but then again, I've never raced at a high level. I've always thought that...

I have a hard time understanding this "bike isn't good enough" thing, but then again, I've never raced at a high level. I've always thought that you don't need a bike that does anything too special - you just need a bike that doesn't do anything unpredictable or weird. If the suspension and handling is basically balanced, neutral, and predictable, a fast guy should be able to go fast. As far as power, it may not be as fast as the bike he had in MXGP but surely its as fast as the privateer KX450s that sometimes finish ahead of him. 

Hope he figures it out. The series would be more exciting with Prado battling for podiums. 

I always thought that pro riders provide the guidance for set-up by the team? He has some responsibility there.

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Spoonguy wrote:
New home, new team, new bike, new tracks, injured shoulder, all the while behaving as a petulant child in interviews is a bad combination. Nobody is...

New home, new team, new bike, new tracks, injured shoulder, all the while behaving as a petulant child in interviews is a bad combination. Nobody is going to say, " I get it Jorge, I see now, it is everybody elses fault! "

JazzyJJ wrote:
You make excuses for him them call out his bad attitude? There's another rider constantly finishing in front of him who has even less time on...

You make excuses for him them call out his bad attitude? There's another rider constantly finishing in front of him who has even less time on his current bike/team and has spent less time int he US. There's another rider in the 250s getting good results weeks after landing over here.

Spoonguy wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if people really miss my point or are just looking to argue? Nothing I stated is an excuse, those items are actually true...

Sometimes I wonder if people really miss my point or are just looking to argue? Nothing I stated is an excuse, those items are actually true, do you disagree? My point is he himself signed up for a tough row to hoe in even perfect conditions yet is blaming everyone and everything else for his current form. The man has a shitty attitude, perhaps he is the cliched spoiled athlete. The whole "I would be winning if the team/bike/mechanics were OK", is bullshit.

So true!!

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George for sure

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8/6/2025 11:07am Edited Date/Time 8/6/2025 12:23pm

I have zero idea, how he’s gonna come back. That said, I voted moving forward. I’m not a hater or a fan of his, but just from a human standpoint, I’d love to see him come back , make a good run at it , be successful , wouldn’t that be fantastic if he did!?💯

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MPJC wrote:
I have a hard time understanding this "bike isn't good enough" thing, but then again, I've never raced at a high level. I've always thought that...

I have a hard time understanding this "bike isn't good enough" thing, but then again, I've never raced at a high level. I've always thought that you don't need a bike that does anything too special - you just need a bike that doesn't do anything unpredictable or weird. If the suspension and handling is basically balanced, neutral, and predictable, a fast guy should be able to go fast. As far as power, it may not be as fast as the bike he had in MXGP but surely its as fast as the privateer KX450s that sometimes finish ahead of him. 

Hope he figures it out. The series would be more exciting with Prado battling for podiums. 

Realistically,  if you don't think he's capable of hanging with Jett, Hunter, Chase, Eli, RJ, Jcoop, which I don't...7th place is his top out.

That's the best he can hope for...unless the Cowboy's feeling his oats or Bam Bam gets a wild hair.  

I hope there's a reason for his season so far and he gets it figured out.

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MPJC wrote:
I have a hard time understanding this "bike isn't good enough" thing, but then again, I've never raced at a high level. I've always thought that...

I have a hard time understanding this "bike isn't good enough" thing, but then again, I've never raced at a high level. I've always thought that you don't need a bike that does anything too special - you just need a bike that doesn't do anything unpredictable or weird. If the suspension and handling is basically balanced, neutral, and predictable, a fast guy should be able to go fast. As far as power, it may not be as fast as the bike he had in MXGP but surely its as fast as the privateer KX450s that sometimes finish ahead of him. 

Hope he figures it out. The series would be more exciting with Prado battling for podiums. 

Spoonguy wrote:

I always thought that pro riders provide the guidance for set-up by the team? He has some responsibility there.

Yes - he doesn’t need to know how to fix the issues he’s feeling but he needs to at least be able to communicate with the team so they know what it’s doing. If he can’t do that, that’s on him. If the team can’t make the adjustments, that’s on them. That’s oversimplified but I think it’s the right general idea. 

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MPJC wrote:
I have a hard time understanding this "bike isn't good enough" thing, but then again, I've never raced at a high level. I've always thought that...

I have a hard time understanding this "bike isn't good enough" thing, but then again, I've never raced at a high level. I've always thought that you don't need a bike that does anything too special - you just need a bike that doesn't do anything unpredictable or weird. If the suspension and handling is basically balanced, neutral, and predictable, a fast guy should be able to go fast. As far as power, it may not be as fast as the bike he had in MXGP but surely its as fast as the privateer KX450s that sometimes finish ahead of him. 

Hope he figures it out. The series would be more exciting with Prado battling for podiums. 

plowboy wrote:
Realistically,  if you don't think he's capable of hanging with Jett, Hunter, Chase, Eli, RJ, Jcoop, which I don't...7th place is his top out.That's the best...

Realistically,  if you don't think he's capable of hanging with Jett, Hunter, Chase, Eli, RJ, Jcoop, which I don't...7th place is his top out.

That's the best he can hope for...unless the Cowboy's feeling his oats or Bam Bam gets a wild hair.  

I hope there's a reason for his season so far and he gets it figured out.

He hasn’t given us any evidence that he’s at that level. He should be based on his past success, but here we are. 

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8/6/2025 11:31am Edited Date/Time 8/6/2025 11:34am
MPJC wrote:
Yes - he doesn’t need to know how to fix the issues he’s feeling but he needs to at least be able to communicate with the...

Yes - he doesn’t need to know how to fix the issues he’s feeling but he needs to at least be able to communicate with the team so they know what it’s doing. If he can’t do that, that’s on him. If the team can’t make the adjustments, that’s on them. That’s oversimplified but I think it’s the right general idea. 

Did you ever notice those folks in SxS's and Gators cruising around the track on the EMT road during the races?  Spotters...relaying a visual of suspension actions/reactions because some riders are better than others at bike set up.🙃

P.S.   I'm sure we've all seen Roger or Mitch cruising back from the far side of track and thought..."What the hell is happening back there?"

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8/6/2025 11:41am

I voted ‘Moving forward’. 

He’s an accomplished world champion. What we’ve seen so far isn’t his limit. We have to believe he and the team are working hard to improve. And it will happen sometime. 

I wonder if he’s been over-training? Whilst sat out of SX, did he knuckle down on his cardio and fatigue himself? 
 

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MPJC wrote:
Yes - he doesn’t need to know how to fix the issues he’s feeling but he needs to at least be able to communicate with the...

Yes - he doesn’t need to know how to fix the issues he’s feeling but he needs to at least be able to communicate with the team so they know what it’s doing. If he can’t do that, that’s on him. If the team can’t make the adjustments, that’s on them. That’s oversimplified but I think it’s the right general idea. 

plowboy wrote:
Did you ever notice those folks in SxS's and Gators cruising around the track on the EMT road during the races?  Spotters...relaying a visual of suspension...

Did you ever notice those folks in SxS's and Gators cruising around the track on the EMT road during the races?  Spotters...relaying a visual of suspension actions/reactions because some riders are better than others at bike set up.🙃

P.S.   I'm sure we've all seen Roger or Mitch cruising back from the far side of track and thought..."What the hell is happening back there?"

JS7 is pretty insightful when he makes comments about what he sees the bikes' suspension doing. They should ask him for setup advice!

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8/6/2025 5:54pm

DV was pretty critical of Prado's evident lack of SX prep, if I recall.

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8/6/2025 10:20pm

We will see how good or bad the bike is by what Sexton does with it next year.

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