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Seen a few technical vids on this issue over the last few months and am far from convinced it's down to negligent discharge/user error - in other words I personally wouldn't trust this firearm. And now a U.S Airman has died, apparently killed by his still holstered Sig... They should gone with the 19x imo.
I have many Sig’s and love them. But I would rather carry an M9 than an M18.
I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place. I bought a sig m18 last year and absolutely love it more than any other gun I have ever shot. So much that 2 months ago I bought a p320 in 45acp. While I never leave any of my guns chambered, I have trust issues now after learning about this. I don’t want to find out the hard way. In my opinion sig sauer has handled this so badly that I’ll never buy another one of there products. 1, do I try to sell them and take a huge loss? 2. Wait it out and hope for some kind of recall and maybe get my money back? 🤷♂️
The 320 has been plagued with criticism since its inception, for all sorts of malfunctions. I never saw what it did better than a Glock other than the modularity. I have no need to be able to swap frames or slides. There are so many better offerings out there than the 320, in my opinion.
I dont work for Glock, so please dont think I'm a shill. Honest question, why doesnt every L.E.O. carry a Glock 9mm or .40 cal at this point? I'll carry a wheel gun till they plant me in the ground, I dont have a dog in this fight.
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Our shooting instructor was almost killed carrying a P320 last year. Gun went off in his holster. Severed his femoral artery. Dude spent 4 weeks in ICU and almost died.
I’ve got my sig p320 and my sig m18 sitting on a shelf in a few discreet places in my house only for home defense. I do not carry them and will not in the future.
We are not allowed to carry them on our church security team.
For my daily I carry a Sig 365XL or a Sig P365 macro.
I won’t carry the 320 or the m18.
Pretty bad that they just tried to ignore the problem until it killed someone. There was way too much smoke around this for there not to be something to it. I wouldn't use one for anything until they come up with a recall to fix the issue.
Glock fan boys make it hard to get into them but the older I get the more I become a fan myself. Just keep it simple and boring and make it work every time.
A buddy who recently served in the Army is telling me these have been a known problem for a long while. They've had the guns fire a round when moving the safety lever from safe to fire, so the Army's fix was to simply NOT carry the weapon in the safety 'On' position anymore. It'll be interesting when this stack of cards fall, and to see how big of a cover up is actually taking place.
I gotta be honest. It seems odd to carry a gun around .Like when u go out for dinner do u carry? Go to the pub? Little league?
Yep
yes.
San Antonio PD put out a memo in the last few days telling officers not to carry that gun if they have one. Its not SAPD's issued firearm, but some carry it off duty.
Been using Glocks for over 30 years. No problems and my barrels last a long, long time.
Do you have a smoke alarm in your house?
Had my colt 38 police special out Saturday, it was originally my grandfathers . Took my wife to the range to get familiar with my Springfield xds-9
The pistol is really only there to buy me some time, till I can get to my scatter gun. Then the real festivities can begin.
They're great. Perfect example of something that just works, right out of the box. No "break in", no odd magazine issues, no weird ammo requirements. Just a good plain hard working gun. I immediately swap the sights when I get them, but that's it.
That’s what we transitioned to before I left. We went from Beretta .40, HK USP .40, Sig 229, Sig 320 9mm. We didn’t have any problems with it.
Favorite was HK
hk is sick
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Always. Better to have and not need than to need and not have.
Kinda surprised at the blanket "yes" responses to include the pub. There is no firearm training instructor anywhere that will suggest carrying when you go drinking in a bar, even in states where it's legal. Quite the opposite, because while it may seem ironic, carrying is about a formula of managing safety/danger, but that formula changes dramatically when everyone's drinking in a bar. It becomes less safe to carry in those situations, so they recommend leaving it at home. Otherwise, little league, that's a place where you would want to carry for pretty obvious reasons I think.
Having car keys in your pocket isn't the same thing as driving drunk. What you do with the keys or the gun is what's going to get you in trouble, not just it's presence. I'm not out getting hammered with my family in tow but there's definitely bars we go eat at where I'll have a beer or two with a gun in my pocket. Definitely illegal and I'm fine with it. I fully understand that using it in this situation even if otherwise totally justified will leave me open to all kinds of liability, but as the saying goes, rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
I think the reasoning is just data, like where fights happen, which all carrying training tells you to avoid fights like your life depends on it, because of how much can go wrong when fighting while carrying, which isn't just a concern for your keys, but the keys of someone else. Anyway, the googles says it's legal in Indiana, but yeah I have no objection in principle to hypothetically breaking the law to carry, you'd just hate to do twenty years in prison for something that may have otherwise been a five second fist fight.
He said going to the pub…
You added in the “drinking” part.
I don’t know anyone who carries a weapon in public while shitfaced.
Look at the news story of the guy who was just captured after he walked into a bar and murdered 4 people there.
Yeah, I’m carrying most everywhere I go. But I choose not to mix firearms and personal alcohol consumption. But simply being around others who are engaged in drinking shouldn’t scare you enough not to carry.
What kind of church do you belong to that needs a security team ?
SMH....
I'd recon the kind that is not a "soft target"
Yep 100%. Everybody’s scores dropped about 20 points when we transitioned from the HK to the Sig.
What kind of church? One that isn’t naïve enough to think evil takes Sundays off.
While you’re busy making snide comments, people have been murdered in churches during worship, kids have been dragged out of nurseries by abusive parents, and unstable individuals have opened fire in congregations. That’s not theory — that’s documented reality.
If you can’t grasp why a group of people gathered in one place — publicly advertised every week — might need protection, then you’re out of your depth. Evil doesn’t care about your opinion, your sarcasm, or your lack of awareness. It only cares that you make an easy target.
We have a security team because burying church members is a high price to pay for pretending the world is safer than it is.
This person votes...let that sink in.
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