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7/18/2025 10:30pm
JB 19 wrote:
I do feel like Jett holds concern regarding Prado because a couple times he has been very quick to get to the lead and drop Jorge...

I do feel like Jett holds concern regarding Prado because a couple times he has been very quick to get to the lead and drop Jorge when Jorge has gotten a good start.   I think Jett knows that Jorge is capable of.  Jett seems much more relaxed around most everyone else.  

No.No.

Jett is not worried about Prado.

The 2 riders Jett will go balls to the wall to beat are Chase and Prado  

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7/18/2025 10:47pm Edited Date/Time 7/18/2025 11:20pm
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I will support the guy. If youre not comfortable, you're not comfortable.  Id rather have a guy being honest then anything.  Look at Tomac, his set...

I will support the guy. If youre not comfortable, you're not comfortable.  Id rather have a guy being honest then anything.  
Look at Tomac, his set up is off too. 
Like many people on Vital say, if youre off 1% on set up, thats 4 seconds a lap.  
Maybe this is good for Kawi. When was the last time they won an outdoor race?


I still bleed green, I just had my blood drawn last month and the medical staff was baffled bybthe color.  

It’s probably hard to admit to yourself that maybe the World’s isn’t the top series when you have 4 titles over there. It’s not just the bike , it’s probably several things including his attitude. US Moto is no joke and he needs to come to grips with that first,  get his head screwed on straight and put the work in. Especially if he wants to get even a wiff of Jett and Hunter. Bottom line is, over the years top riders from each series have run the other. Immediate success hasn’t been the theme, quite thee opposite.

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7/18/2025 10:53pm Edited Date/Time 7/18/2025 10:57pm

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7/18/2025 10:55pm Edited Date/Time 7/18/2025 10:57pm
Continue to ask intelligent questions and gauge the mood of the rider who you are interviewing and how much pressure you can apply and you will...

Continue to ask intelligent questions and gauge the mood of the rider who you are interviewing and how much pressure you can apply and you will soon be known as the best moto journalist in the biz....which you are already near the top.

And when i say "pressure", you obviously can tell that it was applied to Jorge at the end of his interview. Perhaps you went too far(in his view) and he will not do interviews going forward?

Yeah, I’d say he pushed it too far. Prado is already down on himself, there was some unnecessary questions and comments, I don’t care if he knows him or not. 
Everihr thinking that’s great journalism ? I can guarantee the riders will disagree and they won’t be so easy to get another one anytime soon. 
#KNOWYOURLIMITS

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7/18/2025 10:58pm
JB 19 wrote:
I do feel like Jett holds concern regarding Prado because a couple times he has been very quick to get to the lead and drop Jorge...

I do feel like Jett holds concern regarding Prado because a couple times he has been very quick to get to the lead and drop Jorge when Jorge has gotten a good start.   I think Jett knows that Jorge is capable of.  Jett seems much more relaxed around most everyone else.  

Jett’s making it a point to drop Prado that quick to drive it in Prados head that he can’t fuck with Jett 🤣🤣🤣

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7/18/2025 11:05pm Edited Date/Time 7/18/2025 11:05pm
JB 19 wrote:
I do feel like Jett holds concern regarding Prado because a couple times he has been very quick to get to the lead and drop Jorge...

I do feel like Jett holds concern regarding Prado because a couple times he has been very quick to get to the lead and drop Jorge when Jorge has gotten a good start.   I think Jett knows that Jorge is capable of.  Jett seems much more relaxed around most everyone else.  

ohh_454 wrote:

Jett’s making it a point to drop Prado that quick to drive it in Prados head that he can’t fuck with Jett 🤣🤣🤣

That and he was having a fling with Prado’s sister

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7/18/2025 11:36pm
CPR wrote:
So Prado says the bike isn’t where he needs it, and everyone here says it’s annoying and he’s making excuses, but Tomac says the same thing...

So Prado says the bike isn’t where he needs it, and everyone here says it’s annoying and he’s making excuses, but Tomac says the same thing in the same interview and not a word…….

I’d say there’s some pretty stark contrast between the two interviews. Tomac seems reluctant to even mention the bike and takes full accountability for going in the wrong direction while Prado literally said it’s not up to him whether his results improve this year or not. Prado’s interview just comes across as if he’s putting all the blame on the team.

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7/18/2025 11:44pm Edited Date/Time 7/19/2025 4:11am
CPR wrote:
So Prado says the bike isn’t where he needs it, and everyone here says it’s annoying and he’s making excuses, but Tomac says the same thing...

So Prado says the bike isn’t where he needs it, and everyone here says it’s annoying and he’s making excuses, but Tomac says the same thing in the same interview and not a word…….

I’d say there’s some pretty stark contrast between the two interviews. Tomac seems reluctant to even mention the bike and takes full accountability for going in...

I’d say there’s some pretty stark contrast between the two interviews. Tomac seems reluctant to even mention the bike and takes full accountability for going in the wrong direction while Prado literally said it’s not up to him whether his results improve this year or not. Prado’s interview just comes across as if he’s putting all the blame on the team.

And that’s the biggest problem. Get humble and get to work. If the team can’t fix it maybe it’s not the team…. Maybe the riders input isn’t up to par.

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I got to the bottom of some 'hot topics' with Eli and Jorge today. Now, I'm much smarter for it!Honestly, props to them both for answering...

I got to the bottom of some 'hot topics' with Eli and Jorge today. Now, I'm much smarter for it!

Honestly, props to them both for answering honestly in what are clearly tricky circumstances.

That was a very uncomfortable interview with Prado. Could feel the awkward tension there and felt like the last thing he wanted was to talk to you Lewis. Lol. Anyone else get the same feeling or just me?

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Not a Prado fan here but there are clearly some bikes that the Pros don't get along with.

The KX seems to be such a bike. Seewer never felt at home with the Kawi and another MXGP ride said in an interview if he had ridden the bike (KX) before he wouldn't have signed with Kawasaki. I never heard something from Anderson that he loved the bike too. Febvre has a unique riding style and seems to be the exception

 

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7/19/2025 12:32am
CPR wrote:
So Prado says the bike isn’t where he needs it, and everyone here says it’s annoying and he’s making excuses, but Tomac says the same thing...

So Prado says the bike isn’t where he needs it, and everyone here says it’s annoying and he’s making excuses, but Tomac says the same thing in the same interview and not a word…….

I’d say there’s some pretty stark contrast between the two interviews. Tomac seems reluctant to even mention the bike and takes full accountability for going in...

I’d say there’s some pretty stark contrast between the two interviews. Tomac seems reluctant to even mention the bike and takes full accountability for going in the wrong direction while Prado literally said it’s not up to him whether his results improve this year or not. Prado’s interview just comes across as if he’s putting all the blame on the team.

And that’s the biggest problem. Get humble and get to work. If the team can’t fix it maybe it’s not the team…. Maybe the riders input...

And that’s the biggest problem. Get humble and get to work. If the team can’t fix it maybe it’s not the team…. Maybe the riders input isn’t up to par.

That was one of AC's points on his show the other day. He said part of the job description is having the ability to set up a bike. He said bike set is 50 per cent on the rider. 

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I got to the bottom of some 'hot topics' with Eli and Jorge today. Now, I'm much smarter for it!Honestly, props to them both for answering...

I got to the bottom of some 'hot topics' with Eli and Jorge today. Now, I'm much smarter for it!

Honestly, props to them both for answering honestly in what are clearly tricky circumstances.

BAD10 wrote:
That was a very uncomfortable interview with Prado. Could feel the awkward tension there and felt like the last thing he wanted was to talk to...

That was a very uncomfortable interview with Prado. Could feel the awkward tension there and felt like the last thing he wanted was to talk to you Lewis. Lol. Anyone else get the same feeling or just me?

That's why it was an excellent interview. It's not the media's job to blow their subjects. They're supposed to ask tough questions. The trouble is in moto - unlike most other domains - the subjects (teams and riders) think it's okay to blacklist anyone who encroaches on their safe spaces. 

Of course some moto 'journalists' would continue deepthroating even if this wasn't the case. I'm looking at you Swap. 

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I’d love to see Prado on a different bike of his choice set up the way he’d like. I can see him potentially doing better more consistently but can’t see him dominating like he thinks. Lap times seem to drop off second half of the moto so who knows if his fitness is up to par even if he finds his magical bike. 

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7/19/2025 1:28am Edited Date/Time 7/19/2025 7:17am

After hearing the interview with Prado,i have the feeling,there  are a lot more issues with Kawasaki!?

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I really believe that Prado has having issues with his bike BUT that isn't the only problem. You can tell that he's just giving up in the end of the moto if his mind isn't there. He had those rides in the MXGP aswell from time to time, just randomly dropping from the top 3 to outside the top 10. If he doesn't feel like he can win, he apparently doesn't care where he finishes. Look at the drop off by the end of the moto for example, this isn't just his bike, he just mails it in sometimes, but is it a mental or fitness thing? He came in injured into both series, that gotta play into it aswell.

450 Moto 1 at Millville for example, he didn't crash.

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7/19/2025 3:17am
CPR wrote:
So Prado says the bike isn’t where he needs it, and everyone here says it’s annoying and he’s making excuses, but Tomac says the same thing...

So Prado says the bike isn’t where he needs it, and everyone here says it’s annoying and he’s making excuses, but Tomac says the same thing in the same interview and not a word…….

I’d say there’s some pretty stark contrast between the two interviews. Tomac seems reluctant to even mention the bike and takes full accountability for going in...

I’d say there’s some pretty stark contrast between the two interviews. Tomac seems reluctant to even mention the bike and takes full accountability for going in the wrong direction while Prado literally said it’s not up to him whether his results improve this year or not. Prado’s interview just comes across as if he’s putting all the blame on the team.

Sorry sounds like you heard something different to me.

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Anyways, I really hope he gets better and stays in it, the first half of both Southwick Motos showed the speed Prado can ride even on a bike he isn't comfortable on. That would have been a podium for sure if he didn't had those stupid crashes in the end.. 

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Mavetism wrote:
I really believe that Prado has having issues with his bike BUT that isn't the only problem. You can tell that he's just giving up in...

I really believe that Prado has having issues with his bike BUT that isn't the only problem. You can tell that he's just giving up in the end of the moto if his mind isn't there. He had those rides in the MXGP aswell from time to time, just randomly dropping from the top 3 to outside the top 10. If he doesn't feel like he can win, he apparently doesn't care where he finishes. Look at the drop off by the end of the moto for example, this isn't just his bike, he just mails it in sometimes, but is it a mental or fitness thing? He came in injured into both series, that gotta play into it aswell.

450 Moto 1 at Millville for example, he didn't crash.

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Pretty clear he gave up after lap 11. I have no doubt the bike’s not where he wants it, but there must be some very interesting conversations happening over at the Kawi truck. Like are they willing to make big changes, and do they think Prado’s holding up his end of the bargain?

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7/19/2025 3:31am
CPR wrote:
So Prado says the bike isn’t where he needs it, and everyone here says it’s annoying and he’s making excuses, but Tomac says the same thing...

So Prado says the bike isn’t where he needs it, and everyone here says it’s annoying and he’s making excuses, but Tomac says the same thing in the same interview and not a word…….

exactly my thoughts aswell lmao
Not surprised tho

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7/19/2025 3:37am
CPR wrote:
So Prado says the bike isn’t where he needs it, and everyone here says it’s annoying and he’s making excuses, but Tomac says the same thing...

So Prado says the bike isn’t where he needs it, and everyone here says it’s annoying and he’s making excuses, but Tomac says the same thing in the same interview and not a word…….

I’d say there’s some pretty stark contrast between the two interviews. Tomac seems reluctant to even mention the bike and takes full accountability for going in...

I’d say there’s some pretty stark contrast between the two interviews. Tomac seems reluctant to even mention the bike and takes full accountability for going in the wrong direction while Prado literally said it’s not up to him whether his results improve this year or not. Prado’s interview just comes across as if he’s putting all the blame on the team.

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Sorry sounds like you heard something different to me.

Maybe it was the delivery by Prado. He isn't sugar coating anything, that's for sure. Saying "I'm not doing anything wrong, I know what I'm capable off" just sounds more rough than Tomacs "We are not feeling that good as of now on the new gen bike outdoors". But yeah.. They are basically saying the same lol

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Lewis you should corner Reedy, he’s got to have ridden Prado’s bike right? He’s usually not shy with giving his opinion and knows what a competitive...

Lewis you should corner Reedy, he’s got to have ridden Prado’s bike right? He’s usually not shy with giving his opinion and knows what a competitive bike is.

I am wondering if having Reed around is from a PR perspective somewhat detrimental. We know Reed will never shy away from speaking his mind. Which is something that Jorge should stop at this point because he sounds like a broken record.

We heard it. Everyone heard it. Probably even the Kawasaki bosses heard it. There is no quick fix. It’s time for actions to speak louder than words. Even if they will come later.

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I’d say there’s some pretty stark contrast between the two interviews. Tomac seems reluctant to even mention the bike and takes full accountability for going in...

I’d say there’s some pretty stark contrast between the two interviews. Tomac seems reluctant to even mention the bike and takes full accountability for going in the wrong direction while Prado literally said it’s not up to him whether his results improve this year or not. Prado’s interview just comes across as if he’s putting all the blame on the team.

CPR wrote:

Sorry sounds like you heard something different to me.

Mavetism wrote:
Maybe it was the delivery by Prado. He isn't sugar coating anything, that's for sure. Saying "I'm not doing anything wrong, I know what I'm capable...

Maybe it was the delivery by Prado. He isn't sugar coating anything, that's for sure. Saying "I'm not doing anything wrong, I know what I'm capable off" just sounds more rough than Tomacs "We are not feeling that good as of now on the new gen bike outdoors". But yeah.. They are basically saying the same lol

It’s a common theme over the years, international riders tend to speak with a directness that is often misinterpreted in the US.

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exactly my thoughts aswell lmao
Not surprised tho

I think the difference is that prado has been saying this for quite some time now. Whereas Eli has not talked about it really.

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so, do you think if he was riding his gas gas winning championship bike instead of the kwaka,he would be  struggling to make top 5?

i personally think he would be top 5 or podium all day long 

 

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It wouldn’t surprise me if prado knows what direction to go with bike setup and isn’t aloud to, and that would be extremely frustrating to me. 

“RV won on it”

I bet he’d do better on masterpools 450 setup by AHM 

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Great interviews Lewis. Prado gave the impression of arrogance with indifference to the situation he is in, if that is possible. I can't imagine paying millions to someone representing your company and machinery and them shit talking it publicly. He was the one who chose the bike, he is the one testing it and giving input, I know he is not a mechanic, but this is bad. I hope he turns it around, but he did not seem optimistic, seemed like he didn't give a shit.

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It wouldn’t surprise me if prado knows what direction to go with bike setup and isn’t aloud to, and that would be extremely frustrating to me. “RV...

It wouldn’t surprise me if prado knows what direction to go with bike setup and isn’t aloud to, and that would be extremely frustrating to me. 

“RV won on it”

I bet he’d do better on masterpools 450 setup by AHM 

With Prado’s results being a disappointment, why would they not let him set the bike up any way he might want it? That sounds ridiculous!

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7/19/2025 4:24am
It wouldn’t surprise me if prado knows what direction to go with bike setup and isn’t aloud to, and that would be extremely frustrating to me. “RV...

It wouldn’t surprise me if prado knows what direction to go with bike setup and isn’t aloud to, and that would be extremely frustrating to me. 

“RV won on it”

I bet he’d do better on masterpools 450 setup by AHM 

With Prado’s results being a disappointment, why would they not let him set the bike up any way he might want it? That sounds ridiculous!

It is ridiculous, and not far fetched 

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It wouldn’t surprise me if prado knows what direction to go with bike setup and isn’t aloud to, and that would be extremely frustrating to me. “RV...

It wouldn’t surprise me if prado knows what direction to go with bike setup and isn’t aloud to, and that would be extremely frustrating to me. 

“RV won on it”

I bet he’d do better on masterpools 450 setup by AHM 

With Prado’s results being a disappointment, why would they not let him set the bike up any way he might want it? That sounds ridiculous!

It is ridiculous, and not far fetched 

What would be the reasoning by the team to do that?

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7/19/2025 4:32am

With Prado’s results being a disappointment, why would they not let him set the bike up any way he might want it? That sounds ridiculous!

It is ridiculous, and not far fetched 

What would be the reasoning by the team to do that?

I have no idea. I can’t think of anything other than possibly pride 

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