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I guess I could of been like the English fan at Donnington and started throwing stuff at BT.
Remember RC at Unadilla in 98? "I hate to take someone out like that, especially, Dowd, but I\m here to win and he was in my way".
Townley's pass was extremely rough and uncalled for whether intentional or not and has nothing whatsoever to do with what country each guy is from.
It doesn't matter. Nothing I say or anyone else says is going to change your mind. You will continue to bash the U.S. fans at every turn, just as you always have.
Hey, I know! Since your such a fan of the riders maybe we can get them to change the name of the event to the Motocross of Riders. Everyone can just wear the same grey gear and ride the same grey bikes!
That way we get stop all those silly fans and riders from Great Britain, Austrailia, Canada, Germany, Japan, Sweden, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Finland, Iceland, Ireland, Ukraine, France, U.S.A, Brazil, Mexico, etc., etc. from getting together in a friendly competition and celebrating it together. Maybe we can get rid of the Olympics while we are it it!
Maybe YOU should try living in reality for a change.
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Saw two pics, read this thread... the general consensus is that it was a take out so at this point I'm siding with that. Andrew will probably say it was a racing incident as he always does but what if they would have lost because of it?
I gave Ben a little benefit of the doubt by saying MAYBE he came in a little hot. But either way, these guys are professionals and they shouldn't need to hit one another to make a pass. For example, when was the last time Dungey had to knock someone down to pass them? or screw up by coming in hot taking someone down while passing? The states won so some people are saying who cares it's racing... but oh man what a different story it would be if that caused them to lose. The majority of people would be saying send him back to europe etc.
You can say it's racing all you want.... but I don't agree. Ben was faster/better a clean pass should have been possible. Ben needs to learn that as it seems he has gone down many times this year riding over his head or hitting people in corners.I think Ben's a great racer and seems like a nice guy but he needs to settle down a bit on the track before he gets injured again.
Well, I think he did injure himself in the second moto, so there you go.
It was brutal but its racing. I'm sure BT would do that one differently if he could do it over.
lets cliff note it......
Townley and Shorty got together.
Since Short is a USA rider, on team USA, and Townley isnt on team USA, its was the most epic of horse poo, deliberate takeouts ever in the existance of racing.
If you dont agree and are american, you are a snail eating communist bastard that should be dipped ballz first in any number of hot liquids.
If you arent american and dont agree, we all know you dont know anything about racing.
If you are american and agree, welcome brother, here is a beer.
If you arent american and agree, look a new long lost brother, here is a beer.
then sprinkle karma every 5th or 6th word in a post about it.
that about sum it up?
I was watching the redbulltv cast. saw it the first time and the replay.... they were both coming into a left hand 90 corner. from the angle that was shown, it looked like bt was inside and just head of short. as any racer knows, he who is on the inside and ahead controls the corner. dont care about politics or intent, thats racing 101. Now, until a different angle or footage surfaces showing bt cutting across the corner and missiling into shorty going for a pickup pass or a leg breaker, imo, its racing..... ill go prepare my ballz for the hot dipping.
also, lets not forget, shorty isnt called the SFA for nothing and has executed lord knows how many passes just like that. (and if you dont know what SFA stands for, get the hell out of this thread) Shorty is no babe in the woods and I am pretty sure, while pissed, hes not in a lets go fight mood about it.
FUCKING GENIUS!!!!
WINNER!!
But the being ahead removes all doubt, including the ol' "he center punched me" defense
MC and Dungey had (has) the confidence to know they could pass clean, no need to put anyone down... but... some other riders don't have that inner confidence, so they punt riders to get around....
some will go down in history as class acts, such as MC and Dungey... others, as fast racers that were hacks...
RC didn't need to hack Tortelli, Pastrana, Dowd, etc to become the multi champ he was.... he didn't need all that stupid look-back bullshit on lappers he used to pull... some people overlook that stuff.... some don't.... IMO MC was a much better champion than RC ever was because it's much harder to pass clean than to just clean somebody out.... i hope MC knows there are at least a few fans out there that appreciate that..... i hope Dungey knows that too, and doesn't drag himself down to the RV and BT levels in the battles ahead...
Pit Row
BT is from New Zealand (middle of the pacific Ocean, southern Hemisphere. 22 hours flight from Europe, and he races in the USA,
how the fuck is he a european????
and I can't find it, but there's that one race where RC and TP collide.....you forget that?
RC was as aggressive as anyone and did whatever needed to be done to make the pass, and if that required bumping, then he bumped you.
People and their crazy selective memories
I see it here everyday.
On a side note, just listened to the short podcast and he said he hoped it was an accident because he got hit really hard.
With two laps to go, Marmont tried to race Canard to an inside line, and Canard got there first, sending Marmont highsiding violently as he ran into Canard. Canard finished the race in eighth with a bent subframe from the contact. Marmont finished off with a DNF.
there are those of us that are not blinded by our american pride.
no further mention.
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