Epstein list incoming today

lappedrider wrote:

Whether guilty of the crimes himself, or just hiding the crimes of others, in this situation there is no difference.  Absolutely reprehensible, and there is no...

Whether guilty of the crimes himself, or just hiding the crimes of others, in this situation there is no difference.  Absolutely reprehensible, and there is no coming back.  I am done with all things President Trump.  What little hope I had left is gone forever.  

KTMCrashmeister wrote:

As a lapped rider, you should have been pulled out of this thread when you got lapped so as not to interfere with the top posters...

As a lapped rider, you should have been pulled out of this thread when you got lapped so as not to interfere with the top posters. Carry on 😳

HonDawg17 wrote:

What if they're saying "there's no client list" to make the people on said list, not flee the country? Make them feel safe to not run...

What if they're saying "there's no client list" to make the people on said list, not flee the country? Make them feel safe to not run and it would be easier to track them down in secret rather than make it a giant media and civil frenzy. Just a crazy thought.

lappedrider wrote:

Whether guilty of the crimes himself, or just hiding the crimes of others, in this situation there is no difference.  Absolutely reprehensible, and there is no...

Whether guilty of the crimes himself, or just hiding the crimes of others, in this situation there is no difference.  Absolutely reprehensible, and there is no coming back.  I am done with all things President Trump.  What little hope I had left is gone forever.  

KTMCrashmeister wrote:

As a lapped rider, you should have been pulled out of this thread when you got lapped so as not to interfere with the top posters...

As a lapped rider, you should have been pulled out of this thread when you got lapped so as not to interfere with the top posters. Carry on 😳

lappedrider wrote:

I agree.  

<black flag>

mvd61 wrote:

I just went through all the posts by you in this thread. You have a handful of comments and that’s about it. I don’t see a...

I just went through all the posts by you in this thread. You have a handful of comments and that’s about it. I don’t see a statement from you like Spurdo or myself made. I see comments about “tds strong with this one”, one about Mensa members, one about Virginia G, and one about asking what a member is smoking and about kangaroos. Or maybe you were posting from one of your other accounts? 

Cool_Hand_Luke wrote:

Did you miss this one? "Some Vitard dudes think this is a "smoking gun" of some sort. I don't think it is either way for the...

Did you miss this one? "Some Vitard dudes think this is a "smoking gun" of some sort. I don't think it is either way for the right or the left.

Many are going to be disappointed  when it comes out." ~ Luke

Why is it one of the main witnesses, "Virgina G" was such a wacko and she being one of the few who would know many people who had some wrongdoing, Clinton, Trump, Obama, et al. Had over ten years to spill the beans on many and nothing.

Then she killed herself?

 

mvd61 wrote:

Her being a wacko might have had something to do with years of abuse. Pretty fucking bold of you to place the blame on the victim...

Her being a wacko might have had something to do with years of abuse. Pretty fucking bold of you to place the blame on the victim. Definitely not on our worthless government who is only good at pissing away money. Those jackasses said they had the evidence and now claim that none exists. Bullshit. You aren’t that dense. Bucko. 

Edited to replace morning with money. 

Cool_Hand_Luke wrote:

Did you miss this one? "Some Vitard dudes think this is a "smoking gun" of some sort. I don't think it is either way for the...

Did you miss this one? "Some Vitard dudes think this is a "smoking gun" of some sort. I don't think it is either way for the right or the left.

Many are going to be disappointed  when it comes out." ~ Luke

Why is it one of the main witnesses, "Virgina G" was such a wacko and she being one of the few who would know many people who had some wrongdoing, Clinton, Trump, Obama, et al. Had over ten years to spill the beans on many and nothing.

Then she killed herself?

 

mvd61 wrote:

Her being a wacko might have had something to do with years of abuse. Pretty fucking bold of you to place the blame on the victim...

Her being a wacko might have had something to do with years of abuse. Pretty fucking bold of you to place the blame on the victim. Definitely not on our worthless government who is only good at pissing away money. Those jackasses said they had the evidence and now claim that none exists. Bullshit. You aren’t that dense. Bucko. 

Edited to replace morning with money. 

Cool_Hand_Luke wrote:

Please, the broad was wacko. She is the one next to little Jeff, who had all this info on what went on, and now she kills...

Please, the broad was wacko. She is the one next to little Jeff, who had all this info on what went on, and now she kills herself when she could have put much of this to rest.

Maxwell never mentioned anything either, and she could have used it in a plea bargain.

Thank you

Luke

lappedrider wrote:

Whether guilty of the crimes himself, or just hiding the crimes of others, in this situation there is no difference.  Absolutely reprehensible, and there is no...

Whether guilty of the crimes himself, or just hiding the crimes of others, in this situation there is no difference.  Absolutely reprehensible, and there is no coming back.  I am done with all things President Trump.  What little hope I had left is gone forever.  

KTMCrashmeister wrote:

As a lapped rider, you should have been pulled out of this thread when you got lapped so as not to interfere with the top posters...

As a lapped rider, you should have been pulled out of this thread when you got lapped so as not to interfere with the top posters. Carry on 😳

MPJC wrote:

That seems to be the reality of politics. I don't know that Trump is  actually more flawed than past presidents - he just doesn't care to...

That seems to be the reality of politics. I don't know that Trump is  actually more flawed than past presidents - he just doesn't care to hide it. 

People don't generally want to admit how flexible their principles are. Here in Canada, before the election in 2019 a picture of Justin Trudeau in blackface was made public. Now these Liberal party supporters are generally people who would scream bloody murder and insist that any conservative that wore blackface be expelled and ostracized from politics. But they nevertheless were defending Trudeau. I was disappointed but not terribly surprised (I thought Trudeau should have been out on his ass). People are extraordinarily good at rationalizing whatever it is they happen to want. People often have this conception of themselves as starting with principles and then deciding what to do or believe based on these principles. In reality, that's not how people typically operate. We start with wants, desires, and preferences and find reasons that support fulfilling them. We don't like to admit that about ourselves. It's, of course, always "other people" who are unprincipled and it's me who's noble and principled. No, we just bullshit ourselves into believing that we're somehow better than we really are. So yes, people who liked what Trump wanted to do politically rationalized voting for him despite his rather obvious flaws. But that doesn't make them unique or worse. We all do it. We just don't recognize it in ourselves and people with whom we agree. 

akillerwombat wrote:

100%, homie. That is without a doubt the reality of politics... sadly. I fucking hate it. So much.That said, my response wasn't intended to open the...

100%, homie. That is without a doubt the reality of politics... sadly. I fucking hate it. So much.

That said, my response wasn't intended to open the doors of "whataboutisms" to draw a comparison as to how well or poorly Trumps flaws line up with past presidents a we a) don't know the extent of his flaws b) we don't know all the previous presidents flaws and c) personally, I find nothing constructive in whataboutisms when attempting to hold someone accountable for their own actions.

My post was merely to point out that while yes, it is a big jump from Trumps well documented flaws to being a pedophile, peoples near eager level of willingness to dismiss his (again) well documented moral and character flaws combined with the fact they he and Epstein were "buddies", his name was on the flight logs, the flipping on the "is there a list / there isn't a list", his previous sexual indiscretions, his previous sexual lawsuits, and his proclivity to despair women at every turn (usually in a sexual context) doesn't sit well with me.

And again, I'm not saying he's a pedophile, but I feel like there is enough red string on the wall of evidence to make even the dumbest detective go, "wait a second, maybe we should look into this". But, this then brings us back to your opening statement, "this seems to be the reality of politics", which is why I hate it so fucking much.

TheGreat wrote:

i am saying he is a pedophile.  he has given us enough audio evidence.

soggy wrote:

There was never any list pic.twitter.com/mj6YAuuco5

— Brent Terhune in St. Paul May 1-2 (@BrentTerhune) July 8, 2025

mvd61 wrote:

Her being a wacko might have had something to do with years of abuse. Pretty fucking bold of you to place the blame on the victim...

Her being a wacko might have had something to do with years of abuse. Pretty fucking bold of you to place the blame on the victim. Definitely not on our worthless government who is only good at pissing away money. Those jackasses said they had the evidence and now claim that none exists. Bullshit. You aren’t that dense. Bucko. 

Edited to replace morning with money. 

Cool_Hand_Luke wrote:

Please, the broad was wacko. She is the one next to little Jeff, who had all this info on what went on, and now she kills...

Please, the broad was wacko. She is the one next to little Jeff, who had all this info on what went on, and now she kills herself when she could have put much of this to rest.

Maxwell never mentioned anything either, and she could have used it in a plea bargain.

Thank you

Luke

mvd61 wrote:

Zero blame on DJT and co. The most powerful man on the planet hasn’t even came out and said “bullshit my name is not on that...

Zero blame on DJT and co. The most powerful man on the planet hasn’t even came out and said “bullshit my name is not on that list”. Do you have a lot of experience with rape and sexual abuse? Yeah it’s all her fault for not exposing. Forget the part where the “royal” family settles for an undisclosed amount rumored to be around £14,000,000. Nothing going on here. Just paying the crazy broad off. 

Thank you

Not A Trump Dicksucker

Cool_Hand_Luke wrote:

Did you miss this one? "Some Vitard dudes think this is a "smoking gun" of some sort. I don't think it is either way for the...

Did you miss this one? "Some Vitard dudes think this is a "smoking gun" of some sort. I don't think it is either way for the right or the left.

Many are going to be disappointed  when it comes out." ~ Luke

Why is it one of the main witnesses, "Virgina G" was such a wacko and she being one of the few who would know many people who had some wrongdoing, Clinton, Trump, Obama, et al. Had over ten years to spill the beans on many and nothing.

Then she killed herself?

 

mvd61 wrote:

Her being a wacko might have had something to do with years of abuse. Pretty fucking bold of you to place the blame on the victim...

Her being a wacko might have had something to do with years of abuse. Pretty fucking bold of you to place the blame on the victim. Definitely not on our worthless government who is only good at pissing away money. Those jackasses said they had the evidence and now claim that none exists. Bullshit. You aren’t that dense. Bucko. 

Edited to replace morning with money. 

Cool_Hand_Luke wrote:

Please, the broad was wacko. She is the one next to little Jeff, who had all this info on what went on, and now she kills...

Please, the broad was wacko. She is the one next to little Jeff, who had all this info on what went on, and now she kills herself when she could have put much of this to rest.

Maxwell never mentioned anything either, and she could have used it in a plea bargain.

Thank you

Luke

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Seeing as how so many people from both sides "could" be involved, I don't want to come off as if I'm choosing sides here. I'm all...

Seeing as how so many people from both sides "could" be involved, I don't want to come off as if I'm choosing sides here. I'm all for crucifying any guilty party.

However, I can't imagine Epstien would have some sort of "list" of his fellow criminals somewhere that the DOJ could get their hands on. When I was slinging shit loads of weed in the 80's, I damn sure didn't keep any lists that would have made any sense to anyone, for sure not enough to implicate anyone.

Could be that aside from flight manifests, photos of JE with people, that the truth is, there's no incriminating evidence.

I don't like it either, but it might be what it is.

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Seeing as how so many people from both sides "could" be involved, I don't want to come off as if I'm choosing sides here. I'm all...

Seeing as how so many people from both sides "could" be involved, I don't want to come off as if I'm choosing sides here. I'm all for crucifying any guilty party.

However, I can't imagine Epstien would have some sort of "list" of his fellow criminals somewhere that the DOJ could get their hands on. When I was slinging shit loads of weed in the 80's, I damn sure didn't keep any lists that would have made any sense to anyone, for sure not enough to implicate anyone.

Could be that aside from flight manifests, photos of JE with people, that the truth is, there's no incriminating evidence.

I don't like it either, but it might be what it is.

truck wrote:

My suspicion is that anyone and everyone had their name come up somewhere in the investigation, but not in ways that would ever hold up as...

My suspicion is that anyone and everyone had their name come up somewhere in the investigation, but not in ways that would ever hold up as evidence of anything in particular, so both sides are happy to just keep the names quiet and hope it all goes away. 

People seem to forget that both sides have the same disdain for all of us and only do the polarization thing because it's good for business. In the end they still laugh together behind closed doors and are going to look out for each other when shit really hits the fan. Either side giving some names for short term win would result in mutually assured destruction and they all know it. In hindsight it was silly to ever believe this was going to come to a different conclusion. 

Gimmea2Smoke wrote:

big Trump guy here but this is straight bullshit. Hell, the jail video is so ridiculously framed so that you can't even see the man's face...and...

big Trump guy here but this is straight bullshit. Hell, the jail video is so ridiculously framed so that you can't even see the man's face...and did anyone notice the window is missing on the door? (the orig suicide photos included photos of his jail door which had a large window). This "list" got buried in a way to just make this go away permanently now. Straight bullshit. 

Spurdo wrote:

Staunch Republican here - this just cemented Kash Patel's and Pam Bondi's legacys. It's what they'll be remembered for from here on out. I had bigger...

Staunch Republican here - this just cemented Kash Patel's and Pam Bondi's legacys. It's what they'll be remembered for from here on out. I had bigger expectations from this crew. 

mvd61 wrote:

Trump as well. Has he even publicly refuted Elon’s claim that he’s on the list? You know DJT would sue your ass if his big Mac...

Trump as well. Has he even publicly refuted Elon’s claim that he’s on the list? You know DJT would sue your ass if his big Mac wasn’t fresh enough or if his Diet Coke had the incorrect amount of ice in it. So why hasn’t he went after Elon for defamation? 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Seeing as how so many people from both sides "could" be involved, I don't want to come off as if I'm choosing sides here. I'm all...

Seeing as how so many people from both sides "could" be involved, I don't want to come off as if I'm choosing sides here. I'm all for crucifying any guilty party.

However, I can't imagine Epstien would have some sort of "list" of his fellow criminals somewhere that the DOJ could get their hands on. When I was slinging shit loads of weed in the 80's, I damn sure didn't keep any lists that would have made any sense to anyone, for sure not enough to implicate anyone.

Could be that aside from flight manifests, photos of JE with people, that the truth is, there's no incriminating evidence.

I don't like it either, but it might be what it is.

truck wrote:

My suspicion is that anyone and everyone had their name come up somewhere in the investigation, but not in ways that would ever hold up as...

My suspicion is that anyone and everyone had their name come up somewhere in the investigation, but not in ways that would ever hold up as evidence of anything in particular, so both sides are happy to just keep the names quiet and hope it all goes away. 

People seem to forget that both sides have the same disdain for all of us and only do the polarization thing because it's good for business. In the end they still laugh together behind closed doors and are going to look out for each other when shit really hits the fan. Either side giving some names for short term win would result in mutually assured destruction and they all know it. In hindsight it was silly to ever believe this was going to come to a different conclusion. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Well, if you're truly an innocent bystander, you wouldn't want your name mixed in,would you?I thought from the beginning that Epstien had his shit together enough...

Well, if you're truly an innocent bystander, you wouldn't want your name mixed in,would you?

I thought from the beginning that Epstien had his shit together enough to get this by.

I wanted to see him burn, but now we have been told that he killed himself. By both parties.  Maybe, just maybe, that's what happened. 

TeamGreen wrote:

People in here have all the answers 🤣

LungButter wrote:

It’s pretty wild how many folks are so loyal to Daddy Donald that they are just dismissing this. Dude fucked some kids for sure.

TheGreat wrote:

but not surprising at all"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at...

but not surprising at all

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible."

it's a cult

 

TeamGreen wrote:

People in here have all the answers 🤣

phillipmccavity wrote:

Man you are a special one. You have to be a bot! 

TheGreat wrote:

but not surprising at all"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at...

but not surprising at all

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible."

it's a cult

 

LungButter wrote:

Both sides are a cult, that's the problem and it's eventually going to lead to the demise of America.

 

TheGreat wrote:

but not surprising at all"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at...

but not surprising at all

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible."

it's a cult

 

LungButter wrote:

Both sides are a cult, that's the problem and it's eventually going to lead to the demise of America.

 

TheGreat wrote:

but not surprising at all"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at...

but not surprising at all

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible."

it's a cult

 

LungButter wrote:

Both sides are a cult, that's the problem and it's eventually going to lead to the demise of America.

 

TheGreat wrote:

ah yes, both sides lmaoone side knows their guy (the convicted felon) is a rapist and are seemingly (slowly) coming to the realization that they have...

ah yes, both sides lmao

one side knows their guy (the convicted felon) is a rapist and are seemingly (slowly) coming to the realization that they have been conned (again)... yet they would still vote for him for a 4th? time? and are OK with that?  

the other side has publicly stated (over, and over, and over) that if biden did crimes, if biden's kid did crimes, if anyone did crimes, lock them the fuck up

TheGreat wrote:

but not surprising at all"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at...

but not surprising at all

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible."

it's a cult

 

LungButter wrote:

Both sides are a cult, that's the problem and it's eventually going to lead to the demise of America.

 

soggy wrote:

The left is a rudder less ship right now. The right view trump as a savior. It’s why he won. The dems ostracized there best chance when...

The left is a rudder less ship right now. The right view trump as a savior. It’s why he won. 

The dems ostracized there best chance when they did Bernie dirty in 2016.  

2028 will be very interesting. Trump will certainly try to run again. If he fails at that the republicans have some huge shoes to fill. Hard to predict who the dems will try to run. They don’t seem to have anyone that can captivate right now. It’s actually a great time to try to introduce a 3rd party because of to see circumstances. But the fact that’s it’s Elon doing it will get no one excited. 

mvd61 wrote:

Her being a wacko might have had something to do with years of abuse. Pretty fucking bold of you to place the blame on the victim...

Her being a wacko might have had something to do with years of abuse. Pretty fucking bold of you to place the blame on the victim. Definitely not on our worthless government who is only good at pissing away money. Those jackasses said they had the evidence and now claim that none exists. Bullshit. You aren’t that dense. Bucko. 

Edited to replace morning with money. 

Cool_Hand_Luke wrote:

Please, the broad was wacko. She is the one next to little Jeff, who had all this info on what went on, and now she kills...

Please, the broad was wacko. She is the one next to little Jeff, who had all this info on what went on, and now she kills herself when she could have put much of this to rest.

Maxwell never mentioned anything either, and she could have used it in a plea bargain.

Thank you

Luke

truck wrote:

Listen to yourself.... you're telling her you're not going to believe her because she's wacko and then in the next breath telling her to speak up...

Listen to yourself.... you're telling her you're not going to believe her because she's wacko and then in the next breath telling her to speak up and put it all to rest. Gee I wonder why more people don't speak up......? Real mystery how guys are able to get away with this stuff......Can't believe she was never able to overcome her demons...... 

You also seem to be ignorant to the fact that if not for her speaking up and going after epstein he'd probably still be alive and free and raping girls. 

If this is your default reaction to a rape victim who's been through hell and finally killed herself and left three kids without a mom you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and stay the fuck away from my wife and daughters.

LungButter wrote:

Both sides are a cult, that's the problem and it's eventually going to lead to the demise of America.

 

soggy wrote:

The left is a rudder less ship right now. The right view trump as a savior. It’s why he won. The dems ostracized there best chance when...

The left is a rudder less ship right now. The right view trump as a savior. It’s why he won. 

The dems ostracized there best chance when they did Bernie dirty in 2016.  

2028 will be very interesting. Trump will certainly try to run again. If he fails at that the republicans have some huge shoes to fill. Hard to predict who the dems will try to run. They don’t seem to have anyone that can captivate right now. It’s actually a great time to try to introduce a 3rd party because of to see circumstances. But the fact that’s it’s Elon doing it will get no one excited. 

byke wrote:

Bernie's comfort with including the word "socialist" in his political ideologies is not the same as the rest of the county's. He was never going to...

Bernie's comfort with including the word "socialist" in his political ideologies is not the same as the rest of the county's. He was never going to win a controlling portion of swing voters. 

But anyway, this Epstein stuff is turning hilarious. The more time they spend with the investigation materials, the less they want to talk about it...