been on market for years and years. why is this place still inactive? have been looking on east coast to start a track and this is super attractive for the money. I never been to CA but have heard about all kinds of problematic restrictions about not being allowed to water your own grass/wash your car and deff not water your dirtbike track on something like odd number days for half the year etc. heard all this 2nd hand of course... so whats the riding demographics like, track restriction issues people run into etc that a guy from the east would have never thought about being a problem?
Seems like its 2hrs from sacramento and 2.4hrs from san francisco. id rather been 120miles from either of those places than 120miles in middle of nowhere GA/SC/AL especially considering that east coast land is double-triple the price of this....
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/24736-E-Highway-20-Clearlake-Oaks-CA-95423/83140951_zpid/
i did inquire on it and there is one other strange thing... there is no and NEVER will/can be electric to the property again, they did something with the rights for it so you will have to run solar/generators for all electric there.
That is the old oasis mx track. It is really in the middle of nothing. There aren't really any metro areas very close. That area is hot and pretty dry for most of the year. It is also full of the perfect example of the stereotypical trailer/white trash/meth head type people in all the surrounding small towns.
They would pull riders from Humboldt/ukiah area because there aren't any public tracks up there and it's 2 hours closer for them then going to sac area tracks.
I remember the dirt being okay. Clay based, with some rock. They could just never get enough water in it the times I went. Seemed like water access was an issue. But maybe not. There was a really shady/restaurant/store on the side of the road. Not sure if that is included. It is basically a tear down property though.
Oh, and I've lived in California my whole life. Those weird restrictions you mentioned aren't even close to normal for most the state. And especially not that part of the state. Clear lake is more like the wild West, than what you described.
Lake County is the Wild West as stated above. Very hot and dry
About sums it up as far as the climate and the people in Lake county. Not the kind of place you would want to live. A good friend of mine lives in Clearlake Oaks and the tales he tells me about his neighborhood are not good and he lives in one of the better parts of the town. He's lived there for about 5 years now, he thought it might be a good place to retire with the lake and all to fish and boat. He's ready to move back to the bay area. I have been riding up there before, not at Oasis, but up in High Valley where there's lots of trails and fire roads. Good place to ride, but would never leave my truck unattended due to the "natives" up there. Toothless, tatted up and tweaking are the habitat in Lake county.
It's hot, fire country May through October-November. I suspect getting property insurance would be difficult if not impossible. Lake County can be sketchy, but the location is west of Clear Lake by quite a bit and really in the middle of nowhere. Nice hills there for a track, though, but hard to make a go of it commercially and the price reflects it.
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I believe there was a track called Oasis in Lake county. Raced there a few times in '87. Had some pipsqueak intermediate named Steve Lamson ready to embarrass me if I didn't do everything right. Hardpack, slick, but a nice layout.
The property OP linked is Oasis
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Nailed it^^^^^
What the others said: It's overpriced and overtaxed for what you get. It's close to parts of Russian River and Napa, so you have all the liberal bullshit and no California infrastructure. Marketing this place would be an expensive endeavor. I would be surprised if that track made much money in a year.
dang. that place is out then.
anyone come across any places that would be great or track owners thinking about selling?
Somebody just posted a track for sale in Texas last week or the week before that.
Wish there was some way to get Santa Clara county fairgrounds head out of their butt and bring 408 back
This…FTE knows his Cali pros and cons.
There’s a lot of epic trails and off-roading in that area that’s pretty nice and “not blown out” due to its perceived remote location. In my mind, that’s a good thing.
I’d be doing SERIOUS title/land/mineral/water rights research. I’d want to know EXACTLY what I’m getting for my money. With any sort of water availability (water-rights and permitted water storage)…one could throw some livestock on that property and have a good life (there’s plenty of cattle ranching in the area).
I’ve got quite a few miles and some really good “Raptor Routes” in that area. ADVing thru there to wine country is too amazing to even try to explain.
The potential for that property is entirely up to you and how hard you wanna work. I’d highly recommend reading up on The Williamson Act and seeing if…hoping, that is…that it applies to this…that’s a Golden Ticket Tax Provision.
https://www.conservation.ca.gov/dlrp/lca
If you have the means to buy that parcel and make it into what you want? Go for it. Do your home work and make an informed decision…that’s all you can do, right?
Whatever you do, I wish you the best of luck.
Manny
ps-if you end up being crazy enough to do it…let a brother know!
Looking at the parcel map, it looks like it doesn't include the absolute shit hole building/home right in front of it off the freeway. That sucks, because no matter how nice you made your property to visit, you'd have that giant eye sore making it look like a meth haven shit hole, and nothing you could do about it.
Are you committed to CA or open to any state?
Mt view in Oregon is for sale I think. Absolute gem of a track and area. Expensive though.
I was going to bring up Mountain View. Used to live 30 minutes away, that place is special
It's not really close to either of those places geographically (hour or two drive to either), and even further away culturally/politically.
As others have said, there's a lot of tweakers and fences hung with Gadsen and State of Jefferson flags, not Rainbow flags.
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for the oasis mx listing, that property out front on the street burned down few years ago and has been cleaned up. the google street view thru there is recent and in my eyes it looks great actually. clean, clean road in great shape (perfect to cycle on) from there all the way out to Clear Lake n back. Absolutely zero neighbors of any kind anywhere, could run a 450 with a blown out fmf wide open at 6am and not have anyone complain on sound or dust. If this area has that bad of a wrap its going to be an uphill battle to attract people to make the drive and certainly would be off putting for my concept of adding camping, rv hookups and related cheap family fun outdoor things to the place if they gotta worry about crime that much.
The place does have to pay for itself, if it didn't and was just going to be a private place for me to live on the location and crime wouldn't scare me away at all. However, it does have to cover its running costs... If its been on the MLS at all in 24 or 25' and east of dallas and south of NY ive seen it. All parcels or places with a house have 1 or more of these issues...
Neighbors/development too close
middle of nowhere ie >90mi or 1.5hrs to a 1st class city (atl, nashville, louisville, etc)
tons of trees in the way (and no, nobody these days is paying you for the privilege of clearing 30acres of any hardwood, fancy or not)
flood zone
sandy or rocky soil (id have bought broome tioga if it had any dirt mixed in with the rocks...)
Price hasn't been the big obstacle either, i mean we all should have bought land pre covid when it was 1/3rd the price as today. Great tracks take 15-20acres for a good open layout with easy water truck/maintenance access etc, so really only need about triple that to make a great facility, 50 acres could work as well and 100+ would of course be a bonus.
Ive seen all the tracks that come up with google as well as the aforementioned place in TX, (bowers). For me that falls in the category of 90+miles from anywhere and its at high elevation which was something i didnt even think about since the surrounding areas are much lower everyone would have to re-jet to come ride your place if driving 2+hrs...
Open to anywhere in USA or Europe where the weather is good at very minimum 9mo a yr. Also I do not have a $3M budget, unless you have years of proof of income and taxes paid on claimed amounts. If that's the case, I will qualify to finance it.
All that said id be very happy with a chunk of land in a great spot 45min outside a major city with a ton of riders for 300-700k for the land or sub $1.5m with a nice house on it.
(i also searched for horse training properties, golf courses, driving ranges etc and while they do come up and look awesome they still always fail one of the deal killers i mentioned)
Man I wish I had Cali money. I've been all over those fire roads on my old MT250 back when I was stationed at Travis in the 80's. Everywhere between Napa and Lake Baryessa...that cool green lake. I love that area.
You’re right about a lot of things like the surrounding area not having many neighbors or dwellings. Noise shouldn’t be an issue and you literally have your own valley. I’m real familiar with the Bear Creek/Bear Valley area (see Bear Valley Road) and Mill Creek…all the various fun ways into Wilbur Springs…loaded in my OnX and Garmin devices…really fun stuff and some beautiful cattle land. Also some great opportunities to haul ass in the Raptors/Broncos.
I’d still say that as serious as you are about a track…I’d REALLY want to know what the water situation is for that parcel…well capacity…access to Grizzly Creek (I’d want to see the rights to that creek with my own eyes/almost certain that it has to be seasonal)…how much are you allow to store…can you make a pond…etc. I’m assuming those are all county questions.
The deer and bear hunting in that area…amazing. Tho…there’s some big assed cats around there, too (hope you don’t have small dogs). The game warden recently told me that elk are back in that area, too…(don’t know of it’s a hunting zone for those/very selective in Cali) Out in the valley just east of there near Williams, Delevan, Colusa…LOTS of duck hunting…so, the point…there’s a lot of things you can do with 150 acres in that area.
If you built something nice with good prep and good water availability…it would be pretty damn nice; and you wouldn't be that much farther than Marysville (3 tracks) for most riders (some closer/some farther). As it is, most Californians have to drive quite a ways to ride these days.
My daughter was at Humbolt State for a while and the only way over from Sac was either that long ass route over Highway 20 off I5 over to 101, or head up I5 to Redding and across. I preferred the 101 stretch through the redwoods (spent a lot of time there as a kid), so spent way, way too much time on that stretch of Highway 20 . . . it's a dead zone between Williams and Clear Lake and it felt like Oasis was maybe the halfway. Used to see a fair number of road bikes by that store.
She was coming back one winter and hit a deer near there at night, fortunately a glance off the front quarter so she could keep going - it's God and no one you want to meet on a dark road out there - but that deer careened down the side of the truck and pretty well wasted the body work all down the drivers side. We were just doors closed on a non stop to New Zealand for 14 hours when she called and were pretty relieved to hear she was home fine when we landed.
The wildlife from deer to birds and even the fish…in that area…amazing. Some huge ranches out there, too.
If only.... 😗
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4047-W-Felspar-Ave-Ridgecrest-CA-93555/18987095_zpid/
Here’s 40 acres , probably not ideal but maybe worth a look ?
Close to eastern sierras and not too far from larger cities ….
You can see their old grown in the aerial photo
I did a couple ride days here and at least 1 Sierra othg race
Had a issue bringing in water, got dry fast
But super fun layout and old school feel like a smaller more spread out Hollister track
I really liked the up hill and downhill sections and a nice chicane or two
did someone on here buy it? would love to talk with you... its under contract now. I was ready to make an offer but kept going back and forth about never having electric at the property again....Still looking and ready to go
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