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I know you can’t compare lap times because tracks change and no 2 days are the same, but are there any tracks that haven’t changed in that time? I’d love to see if the times are close, again I know it holds no weight, I’m just curious
Jett is the fastest, most talented rider to ever swing a leg over a bike. Kid is insane. No one is even close. Deegan would be the next closest.
Can't underestimate Deegan though. He may be the one guy who can beat Jett. Whether or not anyone will ever beat RC's records? Idk. Different times back then.
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RC the man hated to lose. He straight up crushed james most of the time.(outdoors) I dont think jett would go all out WFO like RC did.
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I'm not going to claim that he's the best to ever swing a leg over a dirt bike, but Jett is currently ahead of RC at this point in their careers, so it's not that far fetched.
Translated article from Moto Verte
76 events and 141 rounds won in the premier class: Ricky Carmichael's US MX records out of reach? Perhaps not for Jett Lawrence. At nearly 22, the Australian is slightly ahead of the American legend's statistics! Take a look!
Ricky Carmichael has won more than anyone else in Outdoor. Seven-time U.S. MX champion in the premier class from 2000 to 2006, “The Goat” has won no fewer than 76 events and 141 rounds in his career. These record-breaking figures put him well ahead of his rivals. Runner-up Ryan Dungey won 39 events, 37 fewer than “RC4”. In terms of motos won, the second-best performer is Eli Tomac with 70, 71 fewer.
A certain Jett Lawrence is making giant strides in these rankings. At Southwick, the Australian won for the 20th time in 450, the 8th-highest total in history, behind Carmichael (76), Dungey (39), Ricky Johnson (33), Tomac (32), Bob Hannah (27), Jeff Ward (25), and Ken Roczen (21). He also increased his number of motos won to 36, making him still the 8th best performer behind Carmichael (141), Tomac (70), Ward (49), Hannah (48), Roczen (46), James Stewart (41), and Jeff Emig (39).
One wheel ahead of Carmichael!
Impressively easy this season, the Honda HRC Progressive rider is on course for a title that only injury seems likely to prevent. It would be the second of his 450 career, at just 22 years of age - he celebrates his 22nd birthday on August 7. If he keeps this up, he'll quickly overtake other riders in the historic rankings. “Jettson” is even ahead of Carmichael's records.
At the same age (21 years and 10 months), Carmichael had just completed his second season in the premier class. At the time, he had 17 victories to his name, compared with Lawrence's 20. The American had also won 28 motos, compared with 36 for his Australian successor.
If we take Ricky's pursuers in these records, Lawrence is also ahead. At his age, Tomac had just completed his first year in the 450 class and had won just 2 races. Dungey had won 14 events, just short of the Australians' 20.
A question of consistency?
The figures for Carmichael and Lawrence are similar, with a slight advantage for “Jettson”. He'll need many more years before he can hope to match the American. Will he be able to? Three factors will determine the answer. The first is his ability to continue to dominate as he does at present. In his interview earlier this year, Johnny O'Mara, his trainer, spoke of the fact that the big job was to keep Jett Lawrence motivated at the top of his game every weekend. The second: the longevity of his career. Here, too, we got a little clue from our interview with the Australian star. He said he wanted to ride until he was at least 30. Third, and probably most important: injuries.
Lawrence's statistics would have been even better had he not injured his thumb in July 2024, missing more than half of the summer season. Carmichael didn't miss a single one of the 83 Outdoor events he contested during his full-time career, from 2000 to 2006. In the light of his case, or that of Valentino Rossi in MotoGP, the ability to stay away from hospitals is a sine qua non for setting records.
RC won 10 straight MX titles, never losing once in his career. Jett has already lost 2 outdoor titles.
Oh btw, when you include 250s and 450s RC still has way more wins by this point in his career. RC had 42 overall MX wins during his first 5 years and before he even turned 22. By comparison, Jett has 25 overall wins in his first 5 seasons...
He's nowhere close to where RC was by this point in their respective MX careers. Jett better race a long time because if he retires from full-time racing at 26 like RC did then he won't even sniff his records. Ricky was far more dominant than Jett
"Far more dominate than Jett."
Correct me if I'm wrong hasnt Jett only lost like 3 motos outdoors in his 450 career?
If that's the case how the heck is that far more dominate no matter how you spin it.
There’s no doubt that the top riders from years gone by would still be top riders today. Elite is elite.
But if you don’t think they’re going any faster today than nearly 20 years ago, than I don’t know what to say, except you’re kidding yourself.
Rc beat James, so between rc and jl, rc all day long
Because I'm talking about their whole career, I'm not just cherry picking 450s only
Also, you gotta be in it to win it and Jett has already lost a 450 MX title by trying to do something stupid and wadding himself up. Do you know how many 450 MX titles RC lost?? ZERO
All three were/are great, but my pick is RC. Maybe Jett does some things on the motorcycle that are more technically sound than RC, but overcoming deficiencies is where RC shined. Whenever he got beat, he determined the weakness that influenced the loss then maniacally hammered on that weakness until it was no longer a weakness. RC's will was his strongest attribute.
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I can't see Jett sticking around that long if I'm honest. I think he'll get bored, especially if he keeps winning. RC would throw his helmet across the track in celebration at winning a sx and barely crack a smile when he won a moto. Like he was just going through the motions. Another 6 years of travel, training and the whole deal of it all when he could be chilling at home an extra 4 months of the year.. And that's without injury or no one stepping up. I hope I'm wrong, I love having them all out there.
All this talk about Jett. Look, RC was more dominant at the same point in their careers. JS would've schooled him a bunch. The only guy pressuring him now are two old men, in Eli and AP.
I'll be honest, the beast mode of Eli is possibly gone now. Eli is around 32 years old and coming off consecutive injury seasons. I'm not sure Jett could even handle a 24 to 25 year old Eli in his prime, let alone RC and JS.
I'm not sure Jett should even be in the same conversation with them.
Lastly, we all know Danger Boy is coming, and he has some traits of RC. He's coming for 450 championships. It will take a year or 2 at least. But is Jett going to win 6 more consecutive titles to close in on RC?? Hell to the No. Love him or hate him, Deegan is going to figure out the 450 class, and he won't be denied.
Gayden couldn't hold RC jock strap and hasn't even proven himself in the big boy class yet
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