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adamdf 9/21/2010 8:32am
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Dude the guys was eating otter pops before he rode.....kinda sounds like muchies dont it? but that wasnt the point i was trying to make to...
Dude the guys was eating otter pops before he rode.....kinda sounds like muchies dont it?

but that wasnt the point i was trying to make to terry, hes saying you ccouldnt win and be a pot head
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Look, if he was winning while high, but then he got sober, he'd be a multi time world fucking champion by now. You guys can't seriously...
Look, if he was winning while high, but then he got sober, he'd be a multi time world fucking champion by now.

You guys can't seriously believe otherwise....can you? Is this Bizarro World? Up is down, down is up, black is white??? Am I dreaming?
Terry, i totally agree with you.....this thread is hilarious....and as someone said above, this isn't novice level moto we are talking about...this is pro supercross! The reaction times allowed for SX are minimal, and you have to be so alert i bet the pupils of your eyes are dilated in full adrenaline mode...there is no way weed could help any rider at a pro race or arguably any race, in SX everything happens so fast and you need to respond to it just as fast or even anticipate it happening....dont tell me weed is a good idea, bs
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adamdf 9/21/2010 8:34am
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Alright guys, im probably gonna have a hit on my head for starting this thread, but when you live in a house full of women and...
Alright guys, im probably gonna have a hit on my head for starting this thread, but when you live in a house full of women and have a mx question, this is the best place to turn too.

So heres my question...... Does weed makin jlaw ride faster?

Ive just been thinking, remember when jlaw won the title? He looked stoned out of his mind the majority of the time, but no one really said much likely due to the fact he had just won a title.

But then what happened? He went off to jail....and im pretty damn sure weed isnt allowed aint allowed there, and unless he found a person like "red" in the "shawshank redemption", that he got clean and sober. And if hes on probation he cant smoke due to random check-ups from his probee officer

So 2010 comes around and he hasnt been able to do much of anything, other then blow up the chat rooms. He seems to have the drive (kinda) but cant do more then a lap or two at race pace.

Back to my question....If jason is clean and sober, and nothing but the most respect if he is, could that be effecting his riding. Motocross is after all just as much mental as it is physical....if his mind aint in the right spot hes not gonna be able to perform like he has in the past....


now feel free to verbally bash, its expected when u start a thread like this...but just actually think about it and right down your thoughts.

thanks for reading,
moscrop

Trip, maybe they were smoking back then, but i doubt they were lining up at the gate to race high, after party to celebrate? Possibly
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If anyone wants to see anything thats enlightening on this situation go watch the Ricky Williams story that ESPN did on him. He left the NFL (he claimed retired) and was diagnosed with Social Anxiety Disorder! The guy was smoking soo much to get away from the pressures of being a star and would lock himself up at home with all windows drawn and just stay in complete darkness! It may make some here look at things a little differently and through a different light


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DanDunes818 9/21/2010 8:42am
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Weed makes you lazy slow and stoopid and someone ever lined up next to me stoned and I could prove it, I would beat the dogshit...
Weed makes you lazy slow and stoopid and someone ever lined up next to me stoned and I could prove it, I would beat the dogshit out of them.
lmao.. You're a tough guy crash.. Just from that internet tough guy comment I would think that 99% of those stoners would rub your face in the dog shit you tried beating out of them.

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I have known guys that were way faster when stoned. Don't ask me how. From what one of them told me it relaxes him and helps...
I have known guys that were way faster when stoned. Don't ask me how. From what one of them told me it relaxes him and helps him ride much looser and care free. The guy I'm talking about actually talked me in to giving it a try once at Washougal. I got 1/4 way through the first lap and couldn't take it. I ended up pulling over at the top of horse power hill where nobody could see me and told everyone I laid it over in a corner..lol I was paranoid and couldn't focus at all. I was straight up scared. Later that week I tried it agaibn at my practice track thinking maybe I just need to try it first while just practicing and not racing. The results were the same. Horrible reaction times, paranoid, and no focus. Never tried it again. I've heard both sides of the coin and basically I believe both sides. Everyone is different.

As far as Jason goes I have heard that he was one of the guys that sided on weed makes you go faster. When you see what the kid can do baked it's hard to argue.
And how good were those guys that roe stoned? Racing A or Pro level moto? How did they do? How was their longevity? Just curious....


And about Jason, is that really common knowledge or rumors gone crazy? I dont care what he did after the race, but lining up to race high is kind of ridiculous, how would the guys on the team (YOT) react to that? Where would he be smoking that at a SX event? In his motor home? I'm not trying to discredit you, just asking serious questions..
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My sister and I used to go to a lot of races back in the day and she used to smoke a lot. My parents hitchhiked from Florida to Woodstock and were lax. If you new the three people she smoked with before a sx you all would fucking flip and say it was BS. I would too but I saw it with my own eyes and one of them again at another sx. Factory guys. At Daytona a few years back after the riders meeting they called out names for random testing and Jlaw was one along with KW, Short and metty maybe. So it would be harder for jason to get away with these days but there are ways I guess. I would be with you on this Terry if I didn't know otherwise.
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MISFIT442 9/21/2010 9:10am
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Says the misfit that copies the Misfit band name and picture. Does that make you a true misfit or just a sheep that can't think for...
Says the misfit that copies the Misfit band name and picture. Does that make you a true misfit or just a sheep that can't think for himself?
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I have known guys that were way faster when stoned. Don't ask me how. From what one of them told me it relaxes him and helps...
I have known guys that were way faster when stoned. Don't ask me how. From what one of them told me it relaxes him and helps him ride much looser and care free. The guy I'm talking about actually talked me in to giving it a try once at Washougal. I got 1/4 way through the first lap and couldn't take it. I ended up pulling over at the top of horse power hill where nobody could see me and told everyone I laid it over in a corner..lol I was paranoid and couldn't focus at all. I was straight up scared. Later that week I tried it agaibn at my practice track thinking maybe I just need to try it first while just practicing and not racing. The results were the same. Horrible reaction times, paranoid, and no focus. Never tried it again. I've heard both sides of the coin and basically I believe both sides. Everyone is different.

As far as Jason goes I have heard that he was one of the guys that sided on weed makes you go faster. When you see what the kid can do baked it's hard to argue.
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And how good were those guys that roe stoned? Racing A or Pro level moto? How did they do? How was their longevity? Just curious.... And...
And how good were those guys that roe stoned? Racing A or Pro level moto? How did they do? How was their longevity? Just curious....


And about Jason, is that really common knowledge or rumors gone crazy? I dont care what he did after the race, but lining up to race high is kind of ridiculous, how would the guys on the team (YOT) react to that? Where would he be smoking that at a SX event? In his motor home? I'm not trying to discredit you, just asking serious questions..
I obviously can't give names but the guy that talked me into that day at Washougal was a national level pro that had a # in the 30's. Who knows maybe if he didn't do it he would of been in the 10's.. All I know is he was 100% convinced he couldn't ride even close to as well without it and we know if you think that way in MX it is that way whether true or not. He's not the only A or B level rider I've known like that.


Everyone is different and everyone reacts to drugs differently. Just as an example if I took an ADD drug I would be wired out for days where a ADD patient would relax from it. I've known people that fall asleep from pot and I've known people that get wired out from it. It's all about your personal chemistry. Like I said smoking pot wasn't my thing but I for sure hold nothing against those people that do smoke it. IMO to each his own. I pass no judgement.
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nytsmaC 9/21/2010 9:17am
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Well that just, like, your opinion, man.

I know it really effects me negatively when playing Reflex on xbox!
UpTiTe 9/21/2010 9:18am
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If you think smoking pot is good for a career, or make you faster, ask Lechien how that worked out for him.


I wittnessed and know guys who have raced a profesional supercross under the influence of the weed, it didn't do any of them any favors and it certainly didn't make them any faster. If someone wants to smoke dope, good for you, but it is in no way good for you, or helps your riding. If you do smoke it and think otherwise, chances are you're an addict who is justifieing your weakness.
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If you think smoking pot is good for a career, or make you faster, ask Lechien how that worked out for him. I wittnessed and know...
If you think smoking pot is good for a career, or make you faster, ask Lechien how that worked out for him.


I wittnessed and know guys who have raced a profesional supercross under the influence of the weed, it didn't do any of them any favors and it certainly didn't make them any faster. If someone wants to smoke dope, good for you, but it is in no way good for you, or helps your riding. If you do smoke it and think otherwise, chances are you're an addict who is justifieing your weakness.
"under the influence of the weed"

LOL

thanks for the laugh
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Racing is stressful and being relaxed is key to doing well. Guys like Lawrence perform better when they smoke a little before they race because it helps them relax and get into the zone. For someone that doesn't smoke weed regularly, it can have just the opposite effect.
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Racing is stressful and being relaxed is key to doing well. Guys like Lawrence perform better when they smoke a little before they race because it...
Racing is stressful and being relaxed is key to doing well. Guys like Lawrence perform better when they smoke a little before they race because it helps them relax and get into the zone. For someone that doesn't smoke weed regularly, it can have just the opposite effect.
And you know this how?
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offspring22 9/21/2010 9:28am
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In this thread: conjecture.

I like how everyone just says things without backing anything up with any kind of scientific studies.
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i personally do know a few PRO riders who smoke and a couple that i have personally smoked with or sold too. ( 3-4 yrs ago) so yes, there are some riders who smoke weed before racing. someone who is smoking here and there might not be able to ride while smoking, but a true 'pothead" who smokes all day everyday will not be effect like the occasional smoker would be. i WILL NOT name manes, but i do know a few PRO mx/sx riders, drag racers, pro quad racers (majority of them do) and even a few pro sticks and ball players who smoke weed before and after riding RACING or training.

so in my experiences in the racing world, there are a handfull of riders who are at the top of the game who enjoy 420 now and then and some who partake in it while racing.. remember, i am for JERSEY.us JERSEY boys always have a few things in commen..

so remember everyone, unless you personally know the guys you are talking about, you dont know what they really do behind closed doors and in the motorhomes to prepare for a race..

ohhhh, and as for all you guys who swear riders dont smoke cause it slows down reaction time makes you tired ect ect.. then please explain to me how a good amount of MMA fighters smoke pot cause they do not take pain pills for all the bumps and bruises they receive while training. yes, they get tested before the fight, but there are a few articles with a few top fighters in the world who admit they smoke pot in order to releive pain before and after a fight. instead of eating pain pills and becoming 'depended" on them. and i think there reaction time is a lil more inportant then reaction time on a bike. and MX is a sport of bumps and bruises. and alot of pro riders have been vocal about not take meds for pain.. so they must be getting some pain reflief some how..

things that make you go hmmmmmmm!!!!
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CamP 9/21/2010 9:33am
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CamP wrote:
Racing is stressful and being relaxed is key to doing well. Guys like Lawrence perform better when they smoke a little before they race because it...
Racing is stressful and being relaxed is key to doing well. Guys like Lawrence perform better when they smoke a little before they race because it helps them relax and get into the zone. For someone that doesn't smoke weed regularly, it can have just the opposite effect.
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And you know this how?
Because I have been around the block a time or two in 46 years. For me personally, I couldn't race stoned because it made me more anxious. For some of the pros I grew up with, it was just the opposite and they actually performed better with a little buzz. I have a few friends that were pro skateboarders when we were younger. Many of them blazed before they skated and one of them pulled his first 540 on the vert ramp and beat Tony Hawk in competition when he was blazed. It's a funny drug that has different effects on different people. It's not like alcohol, which totally impairs your motor skills no matter who you are.
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and as a great singer song writer once said.. "SMOKE WEED EVERDAYYYY"

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I have always thought that most of the people on this board smoke crack. When I read some of the stuff that people post I think to myself - there is no way that they are not smoking crack.
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CamP wrote:
Racing is stressful and being relaxed is key to doing well. Guys like Lawrence perform better when they smoke a little before they race because it...
Racing is stressful and being relaxed is key to doing well. Guys like Lawrence perform better when they smoke a little before they race because it helps them relax and get into the zone. For someone that doesn't smoke weed regularly, it can have just the opposite effect.
UpTiTe wrote:
And you know this how?
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Because I have been around the block a time or two in 46 years. For me personally, I couldn't race stoned because it made me more...
Because I have been around the block a time or two in 46 years. For me personally, I couldn't race stoned because it made me more anxious. For some of the pros I grew up with, it was just the opposite and they actually performed better with a little buzz. I have a few friends that were pro skateboarders when we were younger. Many of them blazed before they skated and one of them pulled his first 540 on the vert ramp and beat Tony Hawk in competition when he was blazed. It's a funny drug that has different effects on different people. It's not like alcohol, which totally impairs your motor skills no matter who you are.
Yeah thats great, but you said

"Guys like Lawrence perform better when they smoke a little before they race because it helps them relax and get into the zone."

I just want to know if you have persoanl knowledge of this or are you just like everyone else, speculating, as if it were fact.
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Sondy132001 9/21/2010 9:41am
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Ummm....no. The fact that weed has been proven to significantly hinder a persons reaction time is by itself enough to debunk your theory. A friend of...
Ummm....no. The fact that weed has been proven to significantly hinder a persons reaction time is by itself enough to debunk your theory.

A friend of mine is a hard core and very skilled drag bike racer and his reaction times at the tree gets worse every year. Most racers get better, he's getting worse. He's a fairly heavy pot smoker, to the extent of actually being high on the line.

Reaction time is huge in moto for various reasons not the least of which is crash avoidance.

Big no.
I disagree. I am not for smoking weed, makes me totally stupid and puts me to sleep. But I will say this, my friend got busted for weed & more in the 80's, unfortunately the latter was his demise, but I am telling you he was high and he was so fast, he won championships. I will say it today, if he didn't get busted he would have won many more championships all the while being high. He was untouchable, fast and had been smoking far longer then most people thought.

He just had natural talent and was gifted in the motocross racing department. No questions asked smoking weed benefits some.

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CamP 9/21/2010 9:45am
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UpTiTe wrote:
And you know this how?
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Because I have been around the block a time or two in 46 years. For me personally, I couldn't race stoned because it made me more...
Because I have been around the block a time or two in 46 years. For me personally, I couldn't race stoned because it made me more anxious. For some of the pros I grew up with, it was just the opposite and they actually performed better with a little buzz. I have a few friends that were pro skateboarders when we were younger. Many of them blazed before they skated and one of them pulled his first 540 on the vert ramp and beat Tony Hawk in competition when he was blazed. It's a funny drug that has different effects on different people. It's not like alcohol, which totally impairs your motor skills no matter who you are.
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Yeah thats great, but you said "Guys like Lawrence perform better when they smoke a little before they race because it helps them relax and get...
Yeah thats great, but you said

"Guys like Lawrence perform better when they smoke a little before they race because it helps them relax and get into the zone."

I just want to know if you have persoanl knowledge of this or are you just like everyone else, speculating, as if it were fact.
I have as personal knowledge of it as anyone that's willing to admit it here. It works for some, and doesn't work for others. I was in the latter group.
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This dipshit registers on 4/20 and starts a gem of a thread like this? You guys have been had! Laughing
o dude u caught me! I made sure to join a website on hitlers birthday just so that 5 months later i could start a topic on weed......fuck man your good!!!!



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Butters wrote:
This dipshit registers on 4/20 and starts a gem of a thread like this? You guys have been had! Laughing
moscrop940 wrote:
o dude u caught me! I made sure to join a website on hitlers birthday just so that 5 months later i could start a topic...
o dude u caught me! I made sure to join a website on hitlers birthday just so that 5 months later i could start a topic on weed......fuck man your good!!!!



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This dipshit registers on 4/20 and starts a gem of a thread like this? You guys have been had! Laughing
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o dude u caught me! I made sure to join a website on hitlers birthday just so that 5 months later i could start a topic...
o dude u caught me! I made sure to join a website on hitlers birthday just so that 5 months later i could start a topic on weed......fuck man your good!!!!



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Just to spice up the conversation a little.

Does anyone here remember the race where Roncada took it to James Stewart?
Afterwards he said he was out of his mind stoned on Vicodin and it made him relaxed enough to just ride as fast as he could and not get tense or scared.
(I'm paraphrasing)
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I used to race scrambles with a friend who burned a fatty before lining up for a 2+ hour scramble and he was a crazy fast A rider. (and he couldve easily ran AA Pro if he tried)

Never understood how he made that work but it did.
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jndmx wrote:
Just to spice up the conversation a little. Does anyone here remember the race where Roncada took it to James Stewart? Afterwards he said he was...
Just to spice up the conversation a little.

Does anyone here remember the race where Roncada took it to James Stewart?
Afterwards he said he was out of his mind stoned on Vicodin and it made him relaxed enough to just ride as fast as he could and not get tense or scared.
(I'm paraphrasing)
That was the best rest I have seen in years, Hangtown, what an amazing race and roncada had to been on vicodin to get hit that hard and not feel the pain ! Remember he was injured and JS knew so !

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jndmx wrote:
Just to spice up the conversation a little. Does anyone here remember the race where Roncada took it to James Stewart? Afterwards he said he was...
Just to spice up the conversation a little.

Does anyone here remember the race where Roncada took it to James Stewart?
Afterwards he said he was out of his mind stoned on Vicodin and it made him relaxed enough to just ride as fast as he could and not get tense or scared.
(I'm paraphrasing)
i was never a fan of JS but the arrogance after that vegas race made me even that much less of a fan.
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Bottom line, most of you say it makes you feel tired and paranoid... That's how it affects everyone when they haven't built up a tolerance for it. Once you build up a tolerance to it, it's completely different.

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