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Just wondering what is going on?
Euros smash everyone every year just about at MXON and seem to be better at MX than the USA series due to SX.
Is the tide turning again?
Is the USAs limited schedule hard for these guys to adjust and they need more track time.
Has the SX set up crept into their motorcross set up and they are lost.
Didnt have Prado and Webb battles on my bingo card.
People talk like Webb is slow, he’s still elite outdoors even if he does prefers sx.
USA riders are better right now. Simple as that. Especially if you count SX. MXGP would not have a chance in SX and MX is the same.
When USA sends the A team they hardly lose. We are in the Lawrence brothers era right now…. Jett is one of a kind. RC like… people say gajser beat him while he did, Jett was just coming off an injury, came from the back and passed him. USA competition is better ATM.
Also, Gajser is a beast.
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21 round ama.GP combined series.
7 SX
7 GPs
7 AMA nationals
Each rider can drop one result from each bucket.
Prado’s only a few races into changing continents and it’s not going well, yet. Vialle came to race SX and has two championships in three years.
Who’s the etc?
Paturel who’s doing better than in MXGP?
Or maybe the Lawrences who came via Europe? They seem to have settled in okay after a year or two, no?
These MXGP vs AMA arguments are lame. Hell Australia won MXdN last year with a rider who doesn’t race either series. Does that mean the Aussie series is superior? Of course not. Enjoy the racing!
The whole Gajser beating Jett thing makes me laugh. Jett gave the inside gate pick to Hunter, came from way back passing everyone including Eli and Herlings like they were stood still, doing it with less recovery time than them all due to back to back motos, on a track that Gajser claims is his favourite and only lost by a second.
Can anyone imagine Gajser doing all that to Jett on a track in the states? Any track, let alone Jetts favourite track? Me neither.
I'm a Gajser fan, love watching him ride but anyone that takes that race as a statement of dominance isn't looking at all the facts.
What an event of turns.
"Didnt have Prado and Webb battles on my bingo card"
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Its not a Euro vs USA thing.
Its whats up with Prado and Vialle.
The aussie boys did most of their early days in europe too.
With the rain I I expected Prado would have his moment to shine, or at least have a significantly better result. Would love to see him battling up front, but it seems to be just getting worse. Wow.
I think you'll find Australian riders are better right now. And New Zealanders coming up also...
I agree. I have a special level of disdain for the 'so and so is better' arguments based on weird one off races in not usual circumstances.
The Gaiser versus Jett at MXON is a classic example along with the insufferable 'Webb beat Herlings at the US GP' one.
Jett would smoke Gaiser 9.99 out of 10 times. Herlings would smoke Webb 9.999999 out of 10 times.
Relatively speaking he is slow. Add to this he's somewhat of an anomaly.
Apart from Anderson, who else in the last say 30 years has been consistently good at supercross - to the level of winning 3 championships - and yet only has one - yes one - just the one - only one lone solitary outdoor overall 450 victory?
RV was great at both disciplines, as was Dunge, as was Stew, as was RC, as is Eli, and of course Jett. Even Reed was very good outdoors at times.
If those ama nationals would be held on europeaan circuits the results would be very different ......then vialle and prado would be riding on circuits they grew up with....Yes americans are very fast on american circuits but let for exemple...........l haiden deegan start in lommel or arnhem or a french circuit then winning would be a lot harder
I’m in the camp of give Prado a mulligan this year. To expect him to come here on a new bike, new team, new tracks, and oh yeah live in a whole different continent wasn’t realistic but many in the moto media world had him hyped to run up there every weekend. I do hope next year looks very different for him and we can get another solid guy in the mix.
I thought he would be top 5 with the occasional podium
The only AMA rider capable of winning an mxgp world championship is J Lawrence. And he's Australian. Neither Tomac, nor Webb, nor Anderson...
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My Prado panic button ran out of batteries
Whats your definition of elite? Hes not a threat to win a race or a title. Thats what I would consider elite
Jett did not come from way back. That's a myth. He was in 5th by the 3rd corner. I've analyzed the freeze frames to death.
I do agree that Gajser isn't beating him here.
USA has 23 wins and didn’t even send a team till 1979? We are really bad at this thing.
whos etc ? Jett Lawrence?
He almost beat him around there in his first try. A second try, same rest in-between motos and starting together, I know who my money is on...
He's obviously talking about the fact we've won the race once since 2012. And that a lot of us consider the GP guys superior outdoor riders. Or we used to 😂
Not sure about the euros smashing everyone, Australia isn’t Europe for one.
Not sure I agree that GP riders are all faster tho obviously some are on some days.
I feel like if Kawasaki participated when Tomac rode for them, Anderson didn’t get landed on and Eli having a horrible mud race we would have 3 more?
Luck has a lot to do with a once a year race I think more than a series obviously.
Right on win # way, way wrong on didn't send a team until 79
On Vialle, it's kind of mixed. He's won 2 sx 250 titles. Didn't have that on my bingo card. He clearly took a year to get used to tracks an finished 2nd to Deegan in 24 mx. He likely will again this year. His problem is Deegan is simply a better motocrosser.
Earlier or later? All my knowledge is from a 65 year old computer and it’s been abused.
Not sure what's wrong with Vialle right now. But he's 1-2-2-1 in the last 4 championships. And judging by how things are going he'll finish 2nd again this outdoors season. Take out Deegan and he wins 5 titles in a row. Deegan is damn good, especially outdoors. Vialle was lucky that in his GP time no such phenom was around. In the Roczen Herlings Prado years he wouldn't have won any titles.
Prado is another story. Put him in the GPs the way he's riding and he's outside the top 10.
Paturel is doing better than in the GPs. On a Suzuki. Haarup just came from 25th to 7th last moto. He's slowly but surely getting to the same level he was in the GPs.
I'd say Jett and Deegan are the best in their class worldwide. Behind them it's about even on both sides of the ocean.
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